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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:40 pm

tzor wrote:
betiko wrote:like you'd imagine a democrat candidate say as much bigoted stuff in a lifetime as Trumpet.


Why yes, actually ...

ā€œLook at what they [Republicans] value, and look at their budget. And look what they're proposing. [Romney] said in the first 100 days, he's going to let the big banks write their own rules -- unchain Wall Street. They're going to put y'all back in chains." --Joe Biden, speaking to a largely African-American audience in Danville, Va., Aug. 14, 2012


I quoted this Biden quote just to point out the kind of thing I'm talking about relative to being educated. The Democrats accused the Republicans of letting "big banks" write all the financial laws. Find out who wrote Dodd-Frank, who helped the people that wrote Dodd-Frank write Dodd-Frank, and who gives money to Dodd and Frank. I'm not saying Dodd-Frank is a bad law, I'm saying the talking points about "letting big banks write their own rules" is untrue.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby thegreekdog on Thu Dec 17, 2015 9:55 pm

Ray Rider wrote:I agree that Paul had a great night as well, and sometimes gave the impression of being the only adult the room. This was emphasized by his position juxtaposed against Christie's warmongering rhetoric against Russia, which was ridiculous. I don't understand why Paul doesn't have more support; I would expect him to gain all the old Ron Paul supports while adding to that because he's young and talks coherently rather sounding like an old grandpa on a rant (no offense to Ron Paul).


I don't understand this either. I guess I would explain it away as follows:

(1) Less people like his brand of conservative (i.e. the real brand) now than in prior years.
(2) He has more appeal in the mainstream (e.g. black lives matter) than with conservative Republicans.
(3) He's soft on terror.

I'm also not convinced that the majority of Republicans actually like intelligent sounding people. "I don't trust him. Sounds like he went to one of them Ivy League schools." I would put Jon Huntsman in that group too.

In terms of image, Rubio is the best easily. Cruz is too smarmy for me too; not sure why I feel that way, but I do. If I had to rank them (based on my personal taste), I'd go:

(1) Paul (closest to libertarian)
(2) Rubio (his immigration plan is the closest of the Republicans to my immigration plan and I like his plan for ISIS)
(3) Cruz (he's fiscally conservative, more so than Rubio I think, but I don't like his immigration plan or his "war" plan)

Ultimately I think Cruz wins the nomination. I don't think any of the other candidates will be his running mate, although if a guy wins he really should think about Fiorina to add some shield for Clinton attacks.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:35 am

Bernie Sanders wrote:
tzor wrote:
notyou2 wrote:After all, it is the party that attracts all the racists.


:twisted: I hate to tell you, but you have been trolled and trolled big time. :twisted:



Sorry notyou2, you are wrong! The Republican Party is NOT racist.

The people who vote Republican are.


racist, racism, who fucking cares. What's the difference between a racist and an asshole? How about a racist and a bully? All this heat gets put on racism, and on top of that it's rarely even something anybody can prove and almost always it's empty rhetoric used by the unwashed masses. There are so many much worse things more deserving of attention and never get any. A man can beat the crap out of a woman and many people might think the guy is a p.o.s. but probably would never say anything. But OMG if you don't kiss the asses of every other race but your own, RACIST!

absolutely pathetic
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby Phatscotty on Fri Dec 18, 2015 5:46 am

notyou2 wrote:If Trump gets the candidacy, it will set the Republicans back 10 years. People will flee like it has the plague, EXCEPT, under paid, under educated, sexually frustrated, middle aged white guys, so about 15% of the US population, but probably 30-40% of the voting population.


The end of political correctness will propel the country forward 50 years! White people should probably stand up to the p.c. bullies, stand together now while they can and stand up to all the anti-white racism. Black people voted over 95% for the black guy, nobody said a word. 95% of white people vote for the white guy and it's check mate. Oh, some have a problem when one race votes 95% in tandem, but it's totally okay for a different color skin to do the same thing? Those people are the true racists.

C'mon really though, is anyone happy in this modern p.c. age where everyone is a racist and all that matters is people's skin color? This, where all that matters is skin color, is progress??? Anytime a subject comes up for debate, nobody can get to the bottom of anything because the mob pretends they can read minds and know how people truly feel and think and therefore justify to themselves totally ignoring every point made (good or bad) based on skin color? That is where we are already set back 150 years.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby waauw on Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:10 am

And Scotty hits the mark. The word racism nowadays has been bastardized as much as feminism has by people who are oversensitive and use it as a false excuse.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby betiko on Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:37 am

so yes, there is political correctness but yes, trump is just being plain racist. There are racism problems and do you think that pooring fuel everywhere and playing with matches is the way to go for societal peace?
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby iAmCaffeine on Fri Dec 18, 2015 6:43 am

waauw wrote:And Scotty hits the mark. The word racism nowadays has been bastardized as much as feminism has by people who are oversensitive and use it as a false excuse.

100% agree but Trumpet doesn't fall into the category of people being overly sensitive or taking political correctness too far, as happens so annoyingly often nowadays. He's just racist.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby muy_thaiguy on Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:05 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:
waauw wrote:And Scotty hits the mark. The word racism nowadays has been bastardized as much as feminism has by people who are oversensitive and use it as a false excuse.

100% agree but Trumpet doesn't fall into the category of people being overly sensitive or taking political correctness too far, as happens so annoyingly often nowadays. He's just racist.

Yep. Being "non-PC" or an asshole is one thing. But Trump? He discriminates based on race (Mexicans) and religion (Muslims). The very definition of racism and bigotry (in general).
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby mrswdk on Fri Dec 18, 2015 7:14 am

muy_thaiguy wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
waauw wrote:And Scotty hits the mark. The word racism nowadays has been bastardized as much as feminism has by people who are oversensitive and use it as a false excuse.

100% agree but Trumpet doesn't fall into the category of people being overly sensitive or taking political correctness too far, as happens so annoyingly often nowadays. He's just racist.

Yep. Being "non-PC" or an asshole is one thing. But Trump? He discriminates based on race (Mexicans) and religion (Muslims). The very definition of racism and bigotry (in general).


USG discriminates on race by only charging income tax to Americans living abroad, not to all people living abroad.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby thegreekdog on Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:12 am

As far as I understand these things, Muslims and Syrians are not races. So Trump is not being racist. I think people need to get their definitions aligned before spouting off.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby tzor on Fri Dec 18, 2015 11:20 am

jimboston wrote:No one pays attention to Alaska... unless it involves oil, polar bears, or ice-road truckers.


That's like saying "no one pays attention to Maine... unless it involves lobsters."

And no one pays attention to Massachusetts... EVER.

jimboston wrote:Seriously... who ever heard of Sarah Palin prior to her run on the Republican Ticket.
No One... certainly not the people who vetted her.


There are 50 states in the Union. The number of governors that the average person knows is probably 2, their own and the one who makes the most noise in the national news and that's probably not because his nation is important, but because he or she is waging a battle against a national interest.

Hell, who has ever heard of George Pataki and he is currently on the debate state for president. He's from New York, for crying out loud. George Who?

jimboston wrote:I never said $125K was a "millionaire salary".
I did say it put her in the Top 5% of wage earners in Alaska... maybe the Top 1%.


King Crab Leg fishermen get about $15K per month, although it's only a three month window. But with other crabs like snow crabs. The typical crew salary can be up to 100K per year and the captain can earn $200K per year.

But hey, we live in the 21st century. Leave your ignorance in the broom closet where it belongs. Top 200 Highest Paying Jobs in Alaska - and that is the average salary,
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby jimboston on Fri Dec 18, 2015 2:38 pm

tzor wrote:
jimboston wrote:No one pays attention to Alaska... unless it involves oil, polar bears, or ice-road truckers.


That's like saying "no one pays attention to Maine... unless it involves lobsters."

And no one pays attention to Massachusetts... EVER.

jimboston wrote:Seriously... who ever heard of Sarah Palin prior to her run on the Republican Ticket.
No One... certainly not the people who vetted her.


There are 50 states in the Union. The number of governors that the average person knows is probably 2, their own and the one who makes the most noise in the national news and that's probably not because his nation is important, but because he or she is waging a battle against a national interest.

Hell, who has ever heard of George Pataki and he is currently on the debate state for president. He's from New York, for crying out loud. George Who?

jimboston wrote:I never said $125K was a "millionaire salary".
I did say it put her in the Top 5% of wage earners in Alaska... maybe the Top 1%.


King Crab Leg fishermen get about $15K per month, although it's only a three month window. But with other crabs like snow crabs. The typical crew salary can be up to 100K per year and the captain can earn $200K per year.

But hey, we live in the 21st century. Leave your ignorance in the broom closet where it belongs. Top 200 Highest Paying Jobs in Alaska - and that is the average salary,



None of this disputes my statements. Sarah Palin went from obscurity to fame.

BTW... Mediam Household Income in Alaska in 2014 was like $69K.
That's pretty high, one of the higher states.

Still at $125K, assuming no other "household income"... i.e. assuming husband earned nothing... that number is nearly double the median. I couldn't find what top 5% or 10% number is. I did find the Top 1% in Alaska is like $370K.

So we know $125 is double the median; and about half the Top 1%. I'm guessing it's Top 10%.

The Top 5% in US is somewhere around $210K.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby Bernie Sanders on Fri Dec 18, 2015 3:35 pm

jimboston wrote:
tzor wrote:
jimboston wrote:No one pays attention to Alaska... unless it involves oil, polar bears, or ice-road truckers.


That's like saying "no one pays attention to Maine... unless it involves lobsters."

And no one pays attention to Massachusetts... EVER.

jimboston wrote:Seriously... who ever heard of Sarah Palin prior to her run on the Republican Ticket.
No One... certainly not the people who vetted her.


There are 50 states in the Union. The number of governors that the average person knows is probably 2, their own and the one who makes the most noise in the national news and that's probably not because his nation is important, but because he or she is waging a battle against a national interest.

Hell, who has ever heard of George Pataki and he is currently on the debate state for president. He's from New York, for crying out loud. George Who?

jimboston wrote:I never said $125K was a "millionaire salary".
I did say it put her in the Top 5% of wage earners in Alaska... maybe the Top 1%.


King Crab Leg fishermen get about $15K per month, although it's only a three month window. But with other crabs like snow crabs. The typical crew salary can be up to 100K per year and the captain can earn $200K per year.

But hey, we live in the 21st century. Leave your ignorance in the broom closet where it belongs. Top 200 Highest Paying Jobs in Alaska - and that is the average salary,



None of this disputes my statements. Sarah Palin went from obscurity to fame.

BTW... Mediam Household Income in Alaska in 2014 was like $69K.
That's pretty high, one of the higher states.

Still at $125K, assuming no other "household income"... i.e. assuming husband earned nothing... that number is nearly double the median. I couldn't find what top 5% or 10% number is. I did find the Top 1% in Alaska is like $370K.

So we know $125 is double the median; and about half the Top 1%. I'm guessing it's Top 10%.

The Top 5% in US is somewhere around $210K.


Alaskans are a bunch of bums. They have the highest rate of welfare whores in the U.S. of A.

http://www.adn.com/article/20140903/alaska-has-highest-rate-welfare-recipients-us-census-says
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby tzor on Fri Dec 18, 2015 9:21 pm

jimboston wrote:None of this disputes my statements. Sarah Palin went from obscurity to fame.


Let's screw the "fame" part (there really isn't any) and just look at the money. Where does she get her $12M worth from?

Her book?
Her multi year contract with Fox News?
Her husband?

Probably the second; she was earning $1M from Fox News in 2010. (Source)

Frankly, this is odd. She wasn't really on that much back then. The guy who runs Fox News isn't someone to waste money. She wasn't a "Chelsea Clinton." So what was that money for?

I sense the "establishment" in this one and when I sense the "establishment" I suspect that somehow the "architect" is not far away.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby jimboston on Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:13 am

thegreekdog wrote:Sarah Palin is incredibly attractive. That's about all I can say about her.


Yep.

That's half the reason she rose from obscurity to fame.

If she was ugly she would not have been so popular.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby jimboston on Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:20 am

tzor wrote:
jimboston wrote:None of this disputes my statements. Sarah Palin went from obscurity to fame.


Let's screw the "fame" part (there really isn't any) and just look at the money. Where does she get her $12M worth from?

Her book?
Her multi year contract with Fox News?
Her husband?

Probably the second; she was earning $1M from Fox News in 2010. (Source)

Frankly, this is odd. She wasn't really on that much back then. The guy who runs Fox News isn't someone to waste money. She wasn't a "Chelsea Clinton." So what was that money for?

I sense the "establishment" in this one and when I sense the "establishment" I suspect that somehow the "architect" is not far away.



I don't know WTF you are talking about.

All I said was...

Trump is just running to raise the value of his brand. He's doing this because he saw what it did for Palin.

If someone who is relatively obscure can go from that to nationwide name-recognition; and simultaneously quadruple (guess) her net worth... what will it do for someone (i.e. Trump) who is already rich and famous??? In his mind it'll make him even more rich and famous... and THAT IS HIS GOAL!
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby jgordon1111 on Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:27 am

mrswdk wrote:
muy_thaiguy wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
waauw wrote:And Scotty hits the mark. The word racism nowadays has been bastardized as much as feminism has by people who are oversensitive and use it as a false excuse.

100% agree but Trumpet doesn't fall into the category of people being overly sensitive or taking political correctness too far, as happens so annoyingly often nowadays. He's just racist.

Yep. Being "non-PC" or an asshole is one thing. But Trump? He discriminates based on race (Mexicans) and religion (Muslims). The very definition of racism and bigotry (in general).


USG discriminates on race by only charging income tax to Americans living abroad, not to all people living abroad.


As usual pedophile, talking when you got no idea what you are saying,NOT ALL AMERICANS ARE CAUCASION, so your tax assessment is as daft as you are.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby Symmetry on Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:18 am

Gotta love the sad "political correctness has gone mad" drones falling in line behind another politician telling them that they aren't correct.
the world is in greater peril from those who tolerate or encourage evil than from those who actually commit it- Albert Einstein
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby Phatscotty on Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:03 pm

muy_thaiguy wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
waauw wrote:And Scotty hits the mark. The word racism nowadays has been bastardized as much as feminism has by people who are oversensitive and use it as a false excuse.

100% agree but Trumpet doesn't fall into the category of people being overly sensitive or taking political correctness too far, as happens so annoyingly often nowadays. He's just racist.

Yep. Being "non-PC" or an asshole is one thing....


and the opposite of political correctness is FREE MOTHER FUCKING SPEECH BITCH!

If speaking freely and refusing to strap into your p.c. intellectual straight-jacket makes people assholes..... COUNT ME IN! Frankly, I think the assholes are the ones who pretend they can justifiably dismiss anyone as a racist who doesn't go along with their mindless p.c. and furthermore concludes non-p.c. people are wrong and hateful and stupid and bigoted and p.c. people think they are perfect and non-p.c. peeps are everything that's wrong with the world.

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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Dec 20, 2015 1:15 pm

Scotty hit the mark? Claimed that there can be no worthwhile discussion whilst a pc brigade exists.

Fair comment except this topic has gone do of track as a result of Scotty's comment. So to be more succint, there can be no worthwhile discussion till people stop plastering theirnown agendas everywhere.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:49 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Scotty hit the mark? Claimed that there can be no worthwhile discussion whilst a pc brigade exists.

Fair comment except this topic has gone do of track as a result of Scotty's comment. So to be more succint, there can be no worthwhile discussion till people stop plastering theirnown agendas everywhere.


Well the problem may be poltical correctness has in some instances replaced freedom of speech WHICH IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IN AMERICA, many of those posting here may not get it, that said there are times when it goes to far, in those cases you have to decide whether those people have morale compasses or not. Example the derrogative term for African Americans, it is damn stupid term,yet every time I hear a black person speak it, I am stunned.ok yet not ok at all, wake up. The hate on both sides is winning don't let them win WAKE UP.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Dec 20, 2015 2:54 pm

jgordon1111 wrote:Well the problem may be poltical correctness has in some instances replaced freedom of speech WHICH IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IN AMERICA


"Freedom of speech" means that the government cannot jail you for saying something it does not like. It does not mean I cannot call you a moron as often as I like.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:33 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
jgordon1111 wrote:Well the problem may be poltical correctness has in some instances replaced freedom of speech WHICH IS A CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHT IN AMERICA


"Freedom of speech" means that the government cannot jail you for saying something it does not like. It does not mean I cannot call you a moron as often as I like.


Correct you are mets, if you choose to disagree with what I or anyone says, personally I care not a whit what anyone thinks or says or me as long as its not lies. I make my choices based on things I have read or learned for myself not someone else's opinions, can you say the same?
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby mrswdk on Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:43 pm

Wake up sheeple.
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Re: What's Trump up to?

Postby jgordon1111 on Sun Dec 20, 2015 3:50 pm

mrswdk wrote:Wake up sheeple.

Ah pedophile, as usual you wait for others to speak and then like a cur dog you try to growl, get off the porch and grovel with the betas you are and never will be a alpha, but they will allow you to kiss their arses.
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