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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby Ragian on Wed Dec 09, 2015 9:01 am

Whatsausage wrote:Also mitch, your vote is pretty weak. I'm interested that if you reread you still feel the same way.
Are you saying that mitch's vote is weak because you like LSU so far or because you just feel his reasoning is off?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby Whatsausage on Wed Dec 09, 2015 12:46 pm

Ragian wrote:
Whatsausage wrote:Also mitch, your vote is pretty weak. I'm interested that if you reread you still feel the same way.
Are you saying that mitch's vote is weak because you like LSU so far or because you just feel his reasoning is off?

I feel his reasoning is off. His reason seems to be that LSU is scummy because of why he voted for chuck.
LSU's reason (at least appears to be) that he believed chuck to be unwilling the benefit of using past game's experience to help read players. This is a valid tactic. Whether that makes chuck scummy, stubborn, or inexperienced, I would lean towards the latter two. So LSU's vote isn't necessarily the strongest either, but it is Day 1.

I read mitch's reasoning as though he thought LSU was voting chuck because of something in a past game. I thought he had misread and should check again to see if he got the same reasoning as I did above. I may have been the one to misread mitch. However, I also get some feel from mitch's vote of "This player is one of the first to place a serious vote -> they must really want to hurry up and lynch someone -> they are scum" reasoning. At this point, most votes aren't going to be built upon a rock-solid foundation, and I thought it more scummy of mitch to vote for one of the first serious voters shortly after that vote.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby madmitch on Wed Dec 09, 2015 4:44 pm

Nice post SAUSAGE , You are right first I didn't like the fast vote on Chuck, and I did not like the he is assuming that Chuck and myself are partners, and granted sometimes you get the same role ( mafia or town ) you can't assume you are that in this game, and I think LSU is doing that, maybe I am wrong or maybe not.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby Endgame422 on Wed Dec 09, 2015 6:02 pm

Dakky,Hotshot,Streaker
What are your reads on sausage and chuck?
LSU if your backchecking games and argueing meta please tell me based off of mitchs "meta",
Do you agree that mitchs logic is scummy here?
Epi,you know rage best here,where do you fall on him right now?
Rage,how about thoughts on epi?
Tim if we were lynching someone right now who would pick?
Belly if you were either seer or oracle who you investigate tonight,who would you send the results to?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby dakky21 on Wed Dec 09, 2015 8:51 pm

Endgame422 wrote:Dakky,Hotshot,Streaker
What are your reads on sausage and chuck?


Currently I don't have opinion on them, only a Tim's soft claim about being VT is what is bothering me.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby TimWoodbury on Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:55 pm

dakky21 wrote:
Endgame422 wrote:Dakky,Hotshot,Streaker
What are your reads on sausage and chuck?


Currently I don't have opinion on them, only a Tim's soft claim about being VT is what is bothering me.


you read it as oft claim but want ment to be anything related to thi game in perticular jut saying in begginer games and games in general ive drawn VT ALOT(only mentioned because i think LSU had mentioned he was reading games with me in em
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby TimWoodbury on Wed Dec 09, 2015 10:57 pm

if we had to llynch right this momemt i honetly dont know ill admit ive been just breezeing through with spending alot of time at walmart recently. i have friday off plan to do a full read to figure things out.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby mtamburini on Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:13 am

HotShot53 wrote:confirmed


How the f*ck has no one mentioned anything about HOTSHOT not posting anything since confirming?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby madmitch on Thu Dec 10, 2015 2:14 am

@ Mtam you caught that too ? I didn't mentioned it because in another game I mentioned it too many times about players not posting and made me look bad by switching my votes on those players . @ Tim, you sure wasn't a V.T. in the last game were you (joker :lol: )
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby Marashu on Thu Dec 10, 2015 5:49 am

DAILY VOTE COUNT:
LSU: Epitaph1, madmitch (L-5)
mtamburini: thechuck(L-6)
TimWoodbury: dakky (L-6)
dakky: TimWoodbury (L-6)
MrBelly: Whatsausabe (L-6)
Whatsausage: Endgame (L-6)
thechuck: LSU (L-6)

Not Voting: Streaker, HotShot, mtamburini, MrBelly, Ragian

Deadline is Monday, December 14, 0600CCT. With 13 alive, it takes 7 votes to lynch. HotShot53 has been prodded
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby MrBellyBangBang on Thu Dec 10, 2015 6:11 am

Endgame422 wrote:Belly if you were either seer or oracle who you investigate tonight,who would you send the results to?

It'd be based on a hunch, nothing solid to go on yet, not worth lynching but I'd have a look at LSU because he seems a bit defensive but I don't know if that's his normal state of being or if the pressure of being scum is getting to him. I haven't played with any of you guys before so I'm probably not the best at making reads this first time, lol. As for who I trust... well I find that even more difficult, honestly can't produce a name yet, you seem like you're interested in driving the conversation forwards instead of sideways, but who can trust someone with an avatar like that? ;)
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby Ragian on Thu Dec 10, 2015 7:28 am

@endgame, drawing on experience I can't tell you flat out if epi is town or non-town at this moment, but I would say that he seems more progressive (his thoughts on LSU) than he usually does when antitown and has more to lose. I'm leaning town for that reason.

The thing is I'm trying to figure out in my head, however, is if non-town in a game with two non-town factions might be better off acting progressively...

I'm leaning town on epi. I can't recall seeing him this pushy when scum before.

@LSU, is joke voting worse than skimming? Why did you switch from dakky to chuck?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby Epitaph1 on Thu Dec 10, 2015 8:55 am

I think Rag is more likely town than not, but it's still very early. He's probably the best scum player in TNC, so be mindful of that.

fwiw, I'm leaning town on Tim. He's committing so many mortal mafia sins (claiming without pressure, admitting to skimming, to name a couple) that it makes me think he's not worried about hiding.

I think we need to start narrowing down our list of lynch candidates, we have votes on 7 different people right now and that's more harmful than helpful. Maybe get the list down to three: LSU, chuck, and one other? Sausage is growing on me since his trap vote, but he's come up in conversation a bit. I don't have a super strong scum read on chuck, so I'm going to have a re-read of his contributions.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby TimWoodbury on Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:00 am

madmitch wrote:@ Mtam you caught that too ? I didn't mentioned it because in another game I mentioned it too many times about players not posting and made me look bad by switching my votes on those players . @ Tim, you sure wasn't a V.T. in the last game were you (joker :lol: )


lol was there any vanillia in that one at all???
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby MrBellyBangBang on Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:08 am

Epitaph1 wrote:I think Rag is more likely town than not, but it's still very early. He's probably the best scum player in TNC, so be mindful of that.

fwiw, I'm leaning town on Tim. He's committing so many mortal mafia sins (claiming without pressure, admitting to skimming, to name a couple) that it makes me think he's not worried about hiding.

I think we need to start narrowing down our list of lynch candidates, we have votes on 7 different people right now and that's more harmful than helpful. Maybe get the list down to three: LSU, chuck, and one other? Sausage is growing on me since his trap vote, but he's come up in conversation a bit. I don't have a super strong scum read on chuck, so I'm going to have a re-read of his contributions.

What about the playes that haven't engaged in anything yet? Can someone wake streaker up? He's a moderator and so he's surely around most of the time. He's also the one who suggested to me to join this game so I'm extra surprised he's not engaging in the game. Then again I have no idea how he normally behaves in mafia games, maybe he always lays low. I find it difficult to make reads on people I've never played mafia with before.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby dakky21 on Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:10 am

Actually Streaker is moving his house and said he will be around on weekend.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby MrBellyBangBang on Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:15 am

dakky21 wrote:Actually Streaker is moving his house and said he will be around on weekend.

Little details like that is nice to know lol, that might explain his absence.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby madmitch on Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:24 am

@ Is he moving to a different house or actually moving his house?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby dakky21 on Thu Dec 10, 2015 9:45 am

madmitch wrote:@ Is he moving to a different house or actually moving his house?


Are you trying to be funny or steer the communication away from the actual game?
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby Epitaph1 on Thu Dec 10, 2015 10:41 am

Streaker wrote:Posting tomorrow


Moving his house now or not, he said he would be here.

If Hotshot doesn't respond within the day, he should probably be replaced. We could vote him, but he probably hasn't even looked at the game since he confirmed.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby Ragian on Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:08 am

Going for inactives didn't really get us anywhere last time. I'd rather have him replaced.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby TimWoodbury on Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:09 am

replaced would be best but if no replacement then vote would be next best
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby madmitch on Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:28 am

dakky21 wrote:
madmitch wrote:@ Is he moving to a different house or actually moving his house?


Are you trying to be funny or steer the communication away from the actual game?

what the f*ck Dakky just wondering, anyway you brought the subject up :evil:
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby LSU Tiger Josh on Thu Dec 10, 2015 11:50 am

Streaker did miss a turn the other day in a risk game, but he has taken a turn since then in our game.
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Re: [INTERMEDIATE]Enemy of My Enemy - Day 1[13/13]

Postby Ragian on Thu Dec 10, 2015 12:34 pm

Please don't ignore question, LSU. (If that was what you did.)
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