[Beginner] Straight Mafia - TOWN WINS

[AladdinSane]

My forehead now bears a permanent palm-shaped indentation from 48 hours of constant facepalming. What came over Tim to virtually suicide like that?

Well, Bos is right, we have to start lynching scum, so let's have no more Town acting weird, okay? I would have thought that, if you are innocent, it shouldn't be too hard to act innocent. It just hammers home the importance of the right to legal counsel IRL. If people are managing to falsely incriminate themselves here, imagine how often it happens in real life.

Mitch - was suspicious because he also tried to finger me as cop, but after Tim's lynching I just don't know if that is enough anymore

DJP - I can understand him not getting NKed on N1, but it is highly suspicious he didn't get NKed on N2. I fully expected it would be him or me. So yeah, maybe the doc claim is a bluff. Might be time to find out.

Streaker - I have to admit I am still suspicious of Streaker, although he has been able to parry enquiries directed at hom thus far. The other two are even more suspicious though.

Mitch and Streaker are also suspicious, imo, for woting Tim before he tried to finger me as cop.

Will think about it more and await input from others before voting, but I am thinking DJP at this stage. Even if he is the doc, he hasn't managed to protect anyone so far. To be fair, though, scum might have targetted TWR in the expectation that the doc would protect me.

[AladdinSane]

Okay, so we lost 4 players, out of which 3 were acting incredibly scummy.

Bos, why do you say 3 of the 4 dead were acting incredibly scummy? Soldier and Tim, agreed, and I presume you mean TWR as well, but he didn't strike me as particularly scummy.

[Streaker]

Here's the deal: we are now at LyLo (LYnch, or LOse). If we do not lynch scum today, we most likely lose.
This means a mass claim is probably the best idea right now.

Especially the cop, since he can clear himself (and hopefully other townies, if they didn't die). It's all about narrowing down the suspects at this point.

Thoughts? Will post more later.

[rizky_biznezz]

I still find mitch very suspicious I find his post about the cop was totally unnecessary it didn't add anything other than trying to get Aladdin to confirm he was the cop.. Im not sure about DJ but at the moment I think it's a bit of a set up even more so since mitch has come out with his first real attempt at making a case.. And it's on dj..

I have more thoughts but I need to get to a computer first.. Please nobody vote til we have discussed it more

[DJPatrick]

Hi guys...think about this...of the four down, we Mafia planned this as the perfect set up and appears many are running in to do the dirty work for them AGAIN...
I know I voted for Soldier on Day one but put that down to beginner's blood frenzy...saved correctly N1 but negated by general angst Day 2...thought it would be me last night and did "save" but obviously Not the Target...still think I got vote in for Townie correct.
Will contact Epi re whether it is allowable to post who the "save" was for and why....someone has already surmized the scenario but still trying not to cross any role-play boundaries by confirming...just a note: I may have jumped the gun on DOC but maybe our constabulary needs to come out...Lynch me today/Mafia kill tonight and it's all over Red Rover!!!

[Streaker]

Dj, it's allowed that you say who you 'targeted' for a save at night.
Please provide us with these details, and say why you choose those targets.

Hi guys...think about this...of the four down, we Mafia planned this as the perfect set up and appears many are running in to do the dirty work for them AGAIN...
I know I voted for Soldier on Day one but put that down to beginner's blood frenzy...saved correctly N1 but negated by general angst Day 2...thought it would be me last night and did "save" but obviously Not the Target...still think I got vote in for Townie correct.
Will contact Epi re whether it is allowable to post who the "save" was for and why....someone has already surmized the scenario but still trying not to cross any role-play boundaries by confirming...just a note: I may have jumped the gun on DOC but maybe our constabulary needs to come out...Lynch me today/Mafia kill tonight and it's all over Red Rover!!!

Also please explain the underlined parts.
1st you say 'we mafia', then you say you correctly saved on N1?

[DJPatrick]

'Kay...an editting mistake on the first one....typed that" we townies have killed most of the dead, given that for the Lynchings, the majority for have been town both times, we need to stop jumping at shadows...Mafia planned this etc" tried to edit out from the second we but deleted from the first...given that edits/deletes are not allowed AFTER it has been posted, I let it stand...saw it immediately and it was questioned so quick!
As to the second underline...I voted for Tim N1 as I saw him as Town and under threat...I was correct on both counts but he was lynched, by majority of townies aster the sun came up...I voted to save Aladin last night and think I had that right again ...Tim is the Main Mafia man for mine but as to his accomplice it's murky..you are bloody obvious but maybe too obvious

[Streaker]

Okay DJ, thank you for that nice and clear answer this time.

One more question for you:

What made you switch your read from 'seeing Tim as town on D1', to now 'Tim main mafia'.

[rizky_biznezz]

tim is gone so therefore not main mafia.. what are you two going on about?

[Streaker]

tim is gone so therefore not main mafia.. what are you two going on about?

Goddammit why don't you just let DJ answer it...

[rizky_biznezz]

because im trying to figure out you 2... i dont know if this little game you play at the start of the day is just a way for you to distance yourselves from each other because you are both scum.. or if its just one of you... sorry but thats why

[rizky_biznezz]

Aladdin I think u might have been right with ur early read of streaker being scum.. Part of his absence was accounted for but he posted twice when soldier was close to being lynched even saying there was no point discussing it further but yet he didn't vote... He knew soldier was town and was planning to use the people that did vote him as targets for the next day so he couldn't be associated with the lynch..
I can see a mitch/streaker pair and a streaker/DJ pair but I can't see a mitch/DJ pair so I'm seeing streaker as the common link here..

[rizky_biznezz]

umm explain that bottom bit streaker cos it looks pretty scummy...

(TL;DR, Tim very scummy from the start of the game, let's lynch him today).

Streaker u say that tag was just to summarise ur long post but isn't the point of making cases for us to read them and analyse them? Are u sure u didn't copy ur notes from night talk and accidentally leave the summary of the next days plans that u left for ur scum buddy on there?

[Streaker]

umm explain that bottom bit streaker cos it looks pretty scummy...

(TL;DR, Tim very scummy from the start of the game, let's lynch him today).

Streaker u say that tag was just to summarise ur long post but isn't the point of making cases for us to read them and analyse them? Are u sure u didn't copy ur notes from night talk and accidentally leave the summary of the next days plans that u left for ur scum buddy on there?

What? I'm not allowed to recap my own posts? If I didn't want you to read and analyze my posts, i would have just posted the short version. I put it all out there just so you could do those things.

[Streaker]

because im trying to figure out you 2... i dont know if this little game you play at the start of the day is just a way for you to distance yourselves from each other because you are both scum.. or if its just one of you... sorry but thats why

DJ's post was FULL of strange things. Him adressing Tim as his main mafia read despite Tim is dead, him reading Tim as main mafia despite also saying it was his town read on D1. He called himself mafia. He says he made a save on D1.

It would have been a good opportunity to see him explain himself for those things. Also, he survived another night but this CAN be a setup by mafia.

Now you attack me on the lack of my vote on D1. You say I did that so I could use it against the town players on the next days. This is very good logic by itself, but where did I do any of that? You can't hold it against me because I'm not guilty of it. Hell, I even supported that lynch.

We really need the cop to claim himself as confirmed town, and clear any townies that he might have visited and are still alive. It's information that is now vital for town.

[DJPatrick]

aH faRK...mITCH as Main mafia man///playing after midnight is never good for synopsis...Saved Tim...name Mitch...night!

[rizky_biznezz]

@streaker.. Ur first post u said mitch was the scummiest but then when u didn't give ur extended read later and I asked u about mitch u said u couldn't make a read on him so what was it that made u say mitch in the first place?

Or did u just say that because he is ur partner and u wanted to make it look like u werent associated with him because u called him scummy?

[rizky_biznezz]

I don't know if DJ survived because

a) he is in fact scum... Or

b) doc is only useful if he guesses the right person so as long as mafia pick randoms that we weren't really expecting then they still get their free kill.. Also because they already went to the trouble to set DJ up as suspicious and therefore an easy lynch for them to push today..

Ok that's all I have for now gotta sleep on it...

[bosaardbeitje]

Okay, so we lost 4 players, out of which 3 were acting incredibly scummy.

Bos, why do you say 3 of the 4 dead were acting incredibly scummy? Soldier and Tim, agreed, and I presume you mean TWR as well, but he didn't strike me as particularly scummy.

TWR was also still on my radar with his vote for Tim and his laying low.

I am totally ready to lynch DJ. All the lies and mistakes and other nonsense don't add up. Why didn't we have a Cop claim yet btw?

[bosaardbeitje]

Also, DJ and Streak I want to know who you think BOTH scum are

[madmitch]

After rereading posts I think Aladdin and Rizky might be the scum pair, they are both flogging a dead horse when they keep coming after me about trying to get Aladdin to admit he was a cop, which I didn't granted I saw something in his post and should have kept it to myself, can't turn back the clock so either forgive me or lynch me. BUT we do need a cop to claim to save town and that way DJ since you are the docter you could save him, we need to hear from the cop ,who did you check out and are they good or evil

[AladdinSane]

After rereading posts I think Aladdin and Rizky might be the scum pair, they are both flogging a dead horse when they keep coming after me about trying to get Aladdin to admit he was a cop, which I didn't granted I saw something in his post and should have kept it to myself, can't turn back the clock so either forgive me or lynch me. BUT we do need a cop to claim to save town and that way DJ since you are the docter you could save him, we need to hear from the cop ,who did you check out and are they good or evil

It definitely looked like you were role-fishing. You have some experience, right, so you should know better if you are Town. The ONLY thing that is keeping me from putting you at the top of my list of suspects is that Tim looked just as scummy from doing the same thing, yet he was VT. If coming after you because you appeared to be role-fishing is all you have on me, then I think that makes you look even more scummy. If you think you have a real case against me, by all means state it.

Again, waiting further developments.

[AladdinSane]

DJ's post was FULL of strange things. Him adressing Tim as his main mafia read despite Tim is dead, him reading Tim as main mafia despite also saying it was his town read on D1. He called himself mafia. He says he made a save on D1.

yes, but does it point to him being Mafia, or does it point to him being yet another Town who just started acting weird? I have to admit, after the Soldier and Tim cases, I'm having a bit of a crisis of confidence.

[madmitch]

@ not role fishing now, come on Aladdin you given us the clue that you were the cop, so come out and claim and tell us who you checked out, we are in a position now that we need to know the answers, you have a doc that said he already protected you and probably do it again, two nights have gone by you must know something, if you keep quite it is bad for town or are you just bull shitting and are really scum, we need to know

[rizky_biznezz]

I am the cop streaker is mafia