President Obama's Legacy

[Phatscotty]

100% by his own doing, P-BO's legacy is already cemented and he will go down in history as the president who constantly repeated 'Islam is a religion of peace'. Of course, this is a message most Christians strive to be remembered for....

[Dualta]

And Christianity is a religion of peace? Scotty, if people didn't see your lips move, I'm sure they be convinced you had just farted. Obama's foreign policy legacy has been almost as bad as the Bush family's, but his domestic legacy is one of extraordinary success. There are just too many pasty assed good ol' boys can't face it that an uppity n*ggra got into the White House and exposed them for the bile driveling morons they are.

[mrswdk]

Obama's foreign policy legacy has been almost as bad as the Bush family's, but his domestic legacy is one of extraordinary success.

Agreed on foreign policy.

What's he actually done domestically? Other than compulsory health insurance.

[saxitoxin]

Agree that Obama's legacy is a disaster, however, a couple problems with the video ...

"[Obama] justifies that by saying no religion condones the killing of the innocent. Who is the innocent in Islam? Nobody, if you're not a Muslim! You can't be innocent if you're an infidel, and infidels are people who are guilty of not worshiping Allah. You think we stupid."

- First, "infidel" is actually a term the Catholic Church uses (or used, I dunno) to refer to non-Catholics. It's not an Arabic word and doesn't exist in Islam outside of comic books.

- Second, Islam requires non-interference with adherents of a monotheistic religion that predates Islam, which includes Judaism, Christianity, and Zorastrianism, conditioned on payment of a 2.5% tax (though, in modern times, no Muslim majority state actually collects the jizya [except ISIS], in the same way modern Israel doesn't actively force rape victims to marry their attackers, or require people to work their slaves to death, even though those are required of all faithful Jews).

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ISIS is ISIL, but is ISIS Islamic? Some sects say Islam says Sally can't sell seashells by the seashore since sealife is shunned by Shariʻah, some say shrimp is scrumptious. So should we see ISIS as a successful secular sect or some sort of suicidal senseless association?

[Dukasaur]

- First, "infidel" is actually a term the Catholic Church uses (or used, I dunno) to refer to non-Catholics. It's not an Arabic word

Of course it's not an Arabic word, since it derives from Latin. Nonetheless, it is the best translation of the Arabic word kafir.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Kafir

A kāfir (كافر ; plural كفّار kuffār) is a disbeliever, someone who rejects Allah and who does not believe in Muhammad as the final messenger of Allah.[1][2] Although Christians and Jews are called the People of the Book (أهل الكتاب ahl al-kitab), they qualify as disbelievers[3][4][5] according to the Qur'an. The word "kafir" can be offensive to non-Muslims, as it has roots meaning "concealer" and "ingrate" implying that non-Muslims are liars. It is also often used by Muslims as an extremely offensive curse word. Other terms which are used to refer to non-Muslims include "faasiq" (sinner, corrupt) and "munafiq" (hypocrite).

We don't actually have a word quite as loaded with contempt and hate as the word kafir, so "infidel" is the best we can do.

[Bernie Sanders]

Obama's foreign policy legacy has been almost as bad as the Bush family's, but his domestic legacy is one of extraordinary success.

Agreed on foreign policy.

What's he actually done domestically? Other than compulsory health insurance.

Shut up! GOD! You are either an idiot who says the first thing that comes out of his/her mouth without thinking or you are just trying to get a rise out of anyone.

The American economy has made a recovery from the dark days of 2008-2009. Granted, not for all Americans. Most of the wealth of this recovery was soaked up by the top 1%.

[mrswdk]

Obama's foreign policy legacy has been almost as bad as the Bush family's, but his domestic legacy is one of extraordinary success.

Agreed on foreign policy.

What's he actually done domestically? Other than compulsory health insurance.

Shut up! GOD! You are either an idiot who says the first thing that comes out of his/her mouth without thinking or you are just trying to get a rise out of anyone.

The American economy has made a recovery from the dark days of 2008-2009. Granted, not for all Americans. Most of the wealth of this recovery was soaked up by the top 1%.

Is that something Obama did because he is so awesome, or something any president in his position would have been able to do in exactly the same way?

'sides, as you point out his response to the financial crisis included sucking up to the big boys and refraining from punishing any of the people involved in creating the crisis. Hardly the big, bad savior of America.

[Bernie Sanders]

Obama's foreign policy legacy has been almost as bad as the Bush family's, but his domestic legacy is one of extraordinary success.

Agreed on foreign policy.

What's he actually done domestically? Other than compulsory health insurance.

Shut up! GOD! You are either an idiot who says the first thing that comes out of his/her mouth without thinking or you are just trying to get a rise out of anyone.

The American economy has made a recovery from the dark days of 2008-2009. Granted, not for all Americans. Most of the wealth of this recovery was soaked up by the top 1%.

Is that something Obama did because he is so awesome, or something any president in his position would have been able to do in exactly the same way?

'sides, as you point out his response to the financial crisis included sucking up to the big boys and refraining from punishing any of the people involved in creating the crisis. Hardly the big, bad savior of America.

President Obama was facing a hostile Republican Party from day one and that was dragging it's feet to anything that may have helped the economic recovery. President Obama was still able to stimulate the economy, but it was not enough to make a speedier recovery that helped all economic classes.

Welcome to partisan politics, the Republicans knew if we had a fast recovery, their chances of winning the White House was slim to none.

[mrswdk]

If he's that awesome then how come you're having to find scapegoats for why the economy performed the way it has under his leadership?

[saxitoxin]

- First, "infidel" is actually a term the Catholic Church uses (or used, I dunno) to refer to non-Catholics. It's not an Arabic word

Of course it's not an Arabic word, since it derives from Latin. Nonetheless, it is the best translation of the Arabic word kafir.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Kafir

A kāfir (كافر ; plural كفّار kuffār) is a disbeliever, someone who rejects Allah and who does not believe in Muhammad as the final messenger of Allah.[1][2] Although Christians and Jews are called the People of the Book (أهل الكتاب ahl al-kitab), they qualify as disbelievers[3][4][5] according to the Qur'an. The word "kafir" can be offensive to non-Muslims, as it has roots meaning "concealer" and "ingrate" implying that non-Muslims are liars. It is also often used by Muslims as an extremely offensive curse word. Other terms which are used to refer to non-Muslims include "faasiq" (sinner, corrupt) and "munafiq" (hypocrite).

We don't actually have a word quite as loaded with contempt and hate as the word kafir, so "infidel" is the best we can do.

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[Bernie Sanders]

If he's that awesome then how come you're having to find scapegoats for why the economy performed the way it has under his leadership?

This is the reality of American politics the last 7 years, my dear ignorant friend.

Now go away and find ways to stop the decline of the corrupt Chinese economy. Otherwise, China will endure some true hardships with a revolution of hundreds of millions of poor Chinese peasants.

[mrswdk]

If he's that awesome then how come you're having to find scapegoats for why the economy performed the way it has under his leadership?

This is the reality of American politics the last 7 years, my dear ignorant friend.

Yup, 7 years of Obama being brilliant. There's no evidence of this brilliance, but that's simply because everyone else is subversive and has therefore sought to sabotage him. He's still incredible.

Sounds like the Supreme Leader has built quite the personality cult around himself.

[riskllama]

I'm sure he's done a better job than Romney(in conjunction w/planet kolob) would have done. let's not forget they shut down the US govt. for what, 10 days? when they didn't get their way. Barack was clearly the lesser of two evils, imo...
now, if he'd only lay off them drone strikes...

[Army of GOD]

Obama is a pretty good golfer

[riskllama]

better than W?

[mrswdk]

Impossible.

[AndyDufresne]

Sounds like the Supreme Leader has built quite the personality cult around himself.

True fact: http://www.economist.com/news/china/216 ... -political


--Andy

[mrswdk]

Sounds like the Supreme Leader has built quite the personality cult around himself.

True fact: http://www.economist.com/news/china/216 ... -political


--Andy

Yeah, but President Xi's so cute.

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[notyou2]

Time and history will be the judge of Obama's record/legacy, not some redneck group.

[rishaed]

I'm sure he's done a better job than Romney(in conjunction w/planet kolob) would have done. let's not forget they shut down the US govt. for what, 10 days? when they didn't get their way. Barack was clearly the lesser of two evils, imo...
now, if he'd only lay off them drone strikes...

Is there really a lesser of the two evils when it comes to politicians? Really?

[Bernie Sanders]

I'm sure he's done a better job than Romney(in conjunction w/planet kolob) would have done. let's not forget they shut down the US govt. for what, 10 days? when they didn't get their way. Barack was clearly the lesser of two evils, imo...
now, if he'd only lay off them drone strikes...

Is there really a lesser of the two evils when it comes to politicians? Really?

Try reading the news? Watch all the political news on all the major networks?

Oh, there's a difference, but that would require thinking.

[rishaed]

I'm sure he's done a better job than Romney(in conjunction w/planet kolob) would have done. let's not forget they shut down the US govt. for what, 10 days? when they didn't get their way. Barack was clearly the lesser of two evils, imo...
now, if he'd only lay off them drone strikes...

Is there really a lesser of the two evils when it comes to politicians? Really?

Try reading the news? Watch all the political news on all the major networks?

Oh, there's a difference, but that would require thinking.

Ha! This is one of the greatest jokes you've ever made. Too bad you're being serious.

[degaston]

100% by his own doing, P-BO's legacy is already cemented and he will go down in history as the president who constantly repeated 'Islam is a religion of peace'. Of course, this is a message most Christians strive to be remembered for....

You're so right! Why doesn't Obama get that Muslims are evil? Just look at the way he constantly defends them, refers to them as our friends, calls them peaceful, says they're the same as us, etc.:

"Here in the United States our Muslim citizens are making many contributions in business, science and law, medicine and education, and in other fields. Muslim members of our Armed Forces and of my administration are serving their fellow Americans with distinction, upholding our nation's ideals of liberty and justice in a world at peace."

"Over the past month, Muslims have fasted, taking no food or water during daylight hours, in order to refocus their minds on faith and redirect their hearts to charity. Muslims worldwide have stretched out a hand of mercy to those in need. Charity tables at which the poor can break their fast line the streets of cities and towns. And gifts of food and clothing and money are distributed to ensure that all share in God's abundance. Muslims often invite members of other families to their evening iftar meals, demonstrating a spirit of tolerance."

"America treasures the relationship we have with our many Muslim friends, and we respect the vibrant faith of Islam which inspires countless individuals to lead lives of honesty, integrity, and morality. This year, may Eid also be a time in which we recognize the values of progress, pluralism, and acceptance that bind us together as a Nation and a global community. By working together to advance mutual understanding, we point the way to a brighter future for all."

"Islam brings hope and comfort to millions of people in my country, and to more than a billion people worldwide. Ramadan is also an occasion to remember that Islam gave birth to a rich civilization of learning that has benefited mankind."

"Ours is a war not against a religion, not against the Muslim faith. But ours is a war against individuals who absolutely hate what America stands for, and hate the freedom of the Czech Republic. And therefore, we must work together to defend ourselves. And by remaining strong and united and tough, we'll prevail."

"Some of the comments that have been uttered about Islam do not reflect the sentiments of my government or the sentiments of most Americans. Islam, as practiced by the vast majority of people, is a peaceful religion, a religion that respects others. Ours is a country based upon tolerance and we welcome people of all faiths in America."

"We see in Islam a religion that traces its origins back to God's call on Abraham. We share your belief in God's justice, and your insistence on man's moral responsibility. We thank the many Muslim nations who stand with us against terror. Nations that are often victims of terror, themselves."

"Islam is a vibrant faith. Millions of our fellow citizens are Muslim. We respect the faith. We honor its traditions. Our enemy does not. Our enemy doesn't follow the great traditions of Islam. They've hijacked a great religion."

"Islam is a faith that brings comfort to people. It inspires them to lead lives based on honesty, and justice, and compassion."

"All Americans must recognize that the face of terror is not the true faith -- face of Islam. Islam is a faith that brings comfort to a billion people around the world. It's a faith that has made brothers and sisters of every race. It's a faith based upon love, not hate."

"If liberty can blossom in the rocky soil of the West Bank and Gaza, it will inspire millions of men and women around the globe who are equally weary of poverty and oppression, equally entitled to the benefits of democratic government. I have a hope for the people of Muslim countries. Your commitments to morality, and learning, and tolerance led to great historical achievements. And those values are alive in the Islamic world today. You have a rich culture, and you share the aspirations of men and women in every culture. Prosperity and freedom and dignity are not just American hopes, or Western hopes. They are universal, human hopes. And even in the violence and turmoil of the Middle East, America believes those hopes have the power to transform lives and nations."

"When it comes to the common rights and needs of men and women, there is no clash of civilizations. The requirements of freedom apply fully to Africa and Latin America and the entire Islamic world. The peoples of the Islamic nations want and deserve the same freedoms and opportunities as people in every nation. And their governments should listen to their hopes."

"America rejects bigotry. We reject every act of hatred against people of Arab background or Muslim faith America values and welcomes peaceful people of all faiths -- Christian, Jewish, Muslim, Sikh, Hindu and many others. Every faith is practiced and protected here, because we are one country. Every immigrant can be fully and equally American because we're one country. Race and color should not divide us, because America is one country."

"We're taking action against evil people. Because this great nation of many religions understands, our war is not against Islam, or against faith practiced by the Muslim people. Our war is a war against evil. This is clearly a case of good versus evil, and make no mistake about it -- good will prevail."

"Eid is a time of joy, after a season of fasting and prayer and reflection. Each year, the end of Ramadan means celebration and thanksgiving for millions of Americans. And your joy during this season enriches the life of our great country. This year, Eid is celebrated at the same time as Hanukkah and Advent. So it's a good time for people of these great faiths, Islam, Judaism and Christianity, to remember how much we have in common: devotion to family, a commitment to care for those in need, a belief in God and His justice, and the hope for peace on earth."

"The teachings of many faiths share much in common. And people of many faiths are united in our commitments to love our families, to protect our children, and to build a more peaceful world. In the coming year, let us resolve to seize opportunities to work together in a spirit of friendship and cooperation. Through our combined efforts, we can end terrorism and rid our civilization of the damaging effects of hatred and intolerance, ultimately achieving a brighter future for all."

"According to Muslim teachings, God first revealed His word in the Holy Qur'an to the prophet, Muhammad, during the month of Ramadan. That word has guided billions of believers across the centuries, and those believers built a culture of learning and literature and science. All the world continues to benefit from this faith and its achievements."

"The Islam that we know is a faith devoted to the worship of one God, as revealed through The Holy Qur'an. It teaches the value and the importance of charity, mercy, and peace."

"This new enemy seeks to destroy our freedom and impose its views. We value life; the terrorists ruthlessly destroy it. We value education; the terrorists do not believe women should be educated or should have health care, or should leave their homes. We value the right to speak our minds; for the terrorists, free expression can be grounds for execution. We respect people of all faiths and welcome the free practice of religion; our enemy wants to dictate how to think and how to worship even to their fellow Muslims."

"All of us here today understand this: We do not fight Islam, we fight against evil."

"I have assured His Majesty that our war is against evil, not against Islam. There are thousands of Muslims who proudly call themselves Americans, and they know what I know -- that the Muslim faith is based upon peace and love and compassion. The exact opposite of the teachings of the al Qaeda organization, which is based upon evil and hate and destruction."

"Americans understand we fight not a religion; ours is not a campaign against the Muslim faith. Ours is a campaign against evil."

"The terrorists are traitors to their own faith, trying, in effect, to hijack Islam itself. The enemy of America is not our many Muslim friends; it is not our many Arab friends. Our enemy is a radical network of terrorists, and every government that supports them."

"I've made it clear, Madam President, that the war against terrorism is not a war against Muslims, nor is it a war against Arabs. It's a war against evil people who conduct crimes against innocent people."

"The face of terror is not the true faith of Islam. That's not what Islam is all about. Islam is peace. These terrorists don't represent peace. They represent evil and war."

Oh wait... These were all things said by Bush... nevermind.

[Bernie Sanders]

I'm sure he's done a better job than Romney(in conjunction w/planet kolob) would have done. let's not forget they shut down the US govt. for what, 10 days? when they didn't get their way. Barack was clearly the lesser of two evils, imo...
now, if he'd only lay off them drone strikes...

Is there really a lesser of the two evils when it comes to politicians? Really?

Try reading the news? Watch all the political news on all the major networks?

Oh, there's a difference, but that would require thinking.

Ha! This is one of the greatest jokes you've ever made. Too bad you're being serious.

Sorry to hear about your neuron deficiency.