DEFEND YOUR RANK DONT PROTECT IT

[richnpoor]

look heres how it really work you play you win you get points its that simple. A high rank player may stand to lose more points in a game to a low rank player but that only happens if he loses. And if he loses to a private he should expect to go down.

if a colonel wins a game even against a cook he gains points simple as that he may only gain 12 instead of 30 but he still gains points and he shouldnt expect to gain as many points beating a newbie as an expierenced player. Is it as easy to beat mainiac as it is a new recruit ? no then why would you expect to gain the same reward for winning.

Your rank is supposed to mean your skilled and you should be expected to defend that rank . Muhammad Ali fought over 50 title defenses and not once did he ever tell Howard Cossell he wasnt gonna fight this contender cause he stood to lose more (the championship) than he stood to gain (some more money)

You higher rank player seem to think that once you obtain rank you should be entitled to keep it forever without having to defend it. You protect it like its your retirement fund and make it much harder for anyone else new to obtain the rank than it was for you.

Tell me were there colonel games when YOU were a private ? If you deserve the rank you will be able to defend it in a fair game and you wont have to hide and only play players who you can gain more points from than you can lose.

I just won a game...every single player was ranked lower than me and guess what MY SCORE WENT UP....not as much as it would have if i had beat 2 generals 3 colonels and a major......but I shouldnt expect it to I beat a couple sgts a couple corpals a private and a question mark and then end result was my score went up 66 points

I should be expected to win this game and therefore i should expext to get 66 points in a 7 player game and if i beat a couple of staff officers my score should go up 100+ because I shouldnt be expected to win that game

What are you afraid of ??? that someone might beat you in an honest game ??? are you so insecure that if you weren't an ELITE player your life would suddenly lose meaning ? DEFEND YOUR RANK DONT PROTECT IT


rich

[alex_white101]

look heres how it really work you play you win you get points its that simple. A high rank player may stand to lose more points in a game to a low rank player but that only happens if he loses. And if he loses to a private he should expect to go down.

if a colonel wins a game even against a cook he gains points simple as that he may only gain 12 instead of 30 but he still gains points and he shouldnt expect to gain as many points beating a newbie as an expierenced player. Is it as easy to beat mainiac as it is a new recruit ? no then why would you expect to gain the same reward for winning.

Your rank is supposed to mean your skilled and you should be expected to defend that rank . Muhammad Ali fought over 50 title defenses and not once did he ever tell Howard Cossell he wasnt gonna fight this contender cause he stood to lose more (the championship) than he stood to gain (some more money)
You higher rank player seem to think that once you obtain rank you should be entitled to keep it forever without having to defend it. You protect it like its your retirement fund and make it much harder for anyone else new to obtain the rank than it was for you.

Tell me were there colonel games when YOU were a private ? If you deserve the rank you will be able to defend it in a fair game and you wont have to hide and only play players who you can gain more points from than you can lose.

I just won a game...every single player was ranked lower than me and guess what MY SCORE WENT UP....not as much as it would have if i had beat 2 generals 3 colonels and a major......but I shouldnt expect it to I beat a couple sgts a couple corpals a private and a question mark and then end result was my score went up 66 points

I should be expected to win this game and therefore i should expext to get 66 points in a 7 player game and if i beat a couple of staff officers my score should go up 100+ because I shouldnt be expected to win that game

What are you afraid of ??? that someone might beat you in an honest game ??? are you so insecure that if you weren't an ELITE player your life would suddenly lose meaning ? DEFEND YOUR RANK DONT PROTECT IT


rich

you are forgetting that a certain % of the game is pure luck. therefore a colonel or general, even though he is tactically far better than other players stands to lose a lot of points through nbo fault of his own, also higher ranked players are targeted. its not as simple as you are making out, also it is often more enjoyable to play better players who you can garuntee will not deadbeat or teaming or the like. dont over-simplify matters.

[panicker]

Unfortunately rich there are more factors than just protecting your rank. speaking for myself , when I played the old colonel games I was assured that there wouldn't be deadbeats , I've not come across any alliances secret or not(don't like either) never played a multi in them ( I dont think lol ) and never had players gunning for me solely because of my rank or suiciding on me for the same . I'm sad to say that happens in too many open games with lower recruits .

Saying that I happily play lower ranks in tournys and/or when asked invited because I've played with them b4 so I can be assured of the game qualities I like(ie the points above)

edit-to reduce the huuuuge size of the post lol

[alster]

Hmmm… yeah, as has been pointed out, there are other issues here as well.

Personally, I’ve added a few people on my ignore list simply because they have too low of a score. When people go down below 600, 700, the windfall from winning against anyone above 2000 points is closing in on 100 points. Then, winning would give me 5, 6 points. And, unless the guy is really, really bad, winning 10 out of 10 games against someone isn’t pure skill. It takes luck as well. And basically, one bad game there would cost me the points I built up over time winning and loosing all over again against very skilled players. Doesn’t make sense to me to throw points away like that. Especially here, when everyone has a idea of the luck involved, and to what extent one relies on it, and when the net gain/loss are easily calculated.

[hulmey]

it's only a bloody game.........And there is a whole lot of luck in it.

Look at these 2 player games. If your first turn u dont pick up a card or you get bad dice your fucked. Your always on the back foot.

[hulmey]

it's only a bloody game.........And there is a whole lot of luck in it.

Look at these 2 player games. If your first turn u dont pick up a card or you get bad dice your fucked. Your always on the back foot.

Theres a little bit of stragey involved but alot more luck i can tell you

[maniacmath17]

look heres how it really work you play you win you get points its that simple. A high rank player may stand to lose more points in a game to a low rank player but that only happens if he loses. And if he loses to a private he should expect to go down.

if a colonel wins a game even against a cook he gains points simple as that he may only gain 12 instead of 30 but he still gains points and he shouldnt expect to gain as many points beating a newbie as an expierenced player. Is it as easy to beat mainiac as it is a new recruit ? no then why would you expect to gain the same reward for winning.

Thanks for the recognition even if it's spelled wrong, lol.

As for playing lower ranked players, I joined 3 public games a couple weeks back and won 2 games for 50 and 60 points, and lost one for 36. A lot less points per win and more points lost than with the colonel games (as to be expected) but also lower level of competition so it does sort of even out.

But I can see why higher ranked players would be discouraged to enter these type of games. In all 3 games I was last in troops within the first couple rounds just because the lower ranks attacked me knowing i had the highest rank. Obviously i was able to overcome this in order to win 2 out of 3, but it's frustrating to know that when you head into a public game as a high rank, you automatically start off at a disadvantage.

Maybe if at some point it could be possible to join games where player name and ranks were hidden, then these public games would see more action from the higher ranks.

[hulmey]

looking at your percentage win...Im lowered ranked but have more percentage then u...Go figure lol

[DiM]

looking at your percentage win...Im lowered ranked but have more percentage then u...Go figure lol

that's because you player more team games than he does.

[plysprtz]

[RobinJ]

Where's AAFitz? His rant in the other thread was brilliant - another one would come in handy now...

[AAFitz]

Where's AAFitz? His rant in the other thread was brilliant - another one would come in handy now...

tell you what...ill copy it...i think his is copied too

Rich, go play the bottom of the scoreboard for 20 games...tell me what happens to your score...by your theory, they are so bad that you will walk away with points....let me know how it turns out for you....luck has a major influence on this game, and no matter how good you are, you cant win them all If it were chess, the top player could beat the bottom 75% 99% of the time...in risk its more like 75%...and if you have to win 90% to win points, its a losing game

stop your incessant whining that higher ranks dont play lower ranks...ive countered you on this many times....all you are is a player that cant get there and is jealous....you are jealous....the same way people are jealous if someone is poor, and then is rich...do you give your money away to people who have less money than you...of course not...if you gave it away to everyone that had less than you...you wouldnt have any any more....you want the points earn them the same way the higher ranks did...nothings changed...in fact, its easier to get them now because there are more out there

and once again...higher ranks play higher ranks because its an even point spread, but more importantly, there is almost no drama...no neg feedbacks for nothing, no suicide attacks out of the blue or just silly moves that ends the game for no good reason...no secret alliances, no multis....just pure strategy against great guys and gals...

If you ever do get good enough and reach enough points to play the top ranks, you will enjoy it and see what I mean

I can play with more or less whoever I want, but I dont expect players with 1000 more points to want to play me right now...just because they have way more points, doesnt mean they are that much better or luckier..it means over the long haul they are better at getting points which is a game in and of itself...in any individual game, anyone of any skill can win...ive seen absolute newbies win with no idea what they were really doing win because the dice and cards just gave it to them...it doesnt matter how good you are, you cant beat that...

you and my dad beat cd and I, it was your first doubles game, and my dad has played about 600 games, and i dont think hes ever been over 1200 points...CD and I are polished teammates, and have brought down some of the toughest doubles and couples on here...but on your first try you beat us, and there was absolutely nothing we could do to stop it...was it a fun game? sure, but your scores were so low, and ours so high that we lost 40 or 50 points which means we would have had to beat you 4 or 5 more times in a row, just to break even...possible, but not easy, and certainly not the way to gain points....

again...play the bottom of the scoreboard...its the same idea, except it should be easier since the worst players are there, where as in the middle of the scoreboard, the skill level is still very high, just not the points....but if you do, you wont be reaching 2000 anytime soon...

there is no player on here that would want to play 20 doubles against me at my current score...no one is good enough to walk away with points from it...win more games sure, win enough to cover the point spread, just not possible...and I dont blame them for not wanting to try

so stop your complaining about the higher ranks...they can play what they want...if you want to play them...work for your points and you can play them in the 2000 point games at will...all you need to do is get 2000 points....if you cant do that...you arent good enough to play them...so spend your energy getting better, not asking for charity...

[RobinJ]

^

[wacicha]

I am one of many who play many many open games against all who want to join. I lose to a lot of people and win a few also. My win ratio is decieving it says 35% but - i play terminator. If I did not make the last kill I do not win the game but i do get some points almost every game. In my games I see alot of high rankers join and we also get a lot of low. If I were to start 50 games they would be filled in less than 24 hours. To say that all high Rankers protect their points is just not true.

They like to play and have fun. they enjoy the banter just like we do.

looking over the list of the very high rankers there are only a very select few I have not had join my games. Now it is time to get off the soap box and just play your games.

[chessplaya]

some ppl just take it to the limit .... i actually had to read half of this then i realised i just read it somwehere else....so here is how it goes

RICHNPOOR : GFY

AAFITZ : IF U DIDNT SUCK TOO MUCH AT THAT GAME...HIM AND UR DAD WOULDNT HAVE KICKED UR ASSES


hey anyway i take on any1...so if u guyz want to take it to the battlefield let me know and i will start a special 3 players game..and show u that long posts arent worth it...just play the game

i just hate to read long posts so what can u delete from it....just delete it!

[chewyman]

look heres how it really work you play you win you get points its that simple. A high rank player may stand to lose more points in a game to a low rank player but that only happens if he loses. And if he loses to a private he should expect to go down.

if a colonel wins a game even against a cook he gains points simple as that he may only gain 12 instead of 30 but he still gains points and he shouldnt expect to gain as many points beating a newbie as an expierenced player. Is it as easy to beat mainiac as it is a new recruit ? no then why would you expect to gain the same reward for winning.

Your rank is supposed to mean your skilled and you should be expected to defend that rank . Muhammad Ali fought over 50 title defenses and not once did he ever tell Howard Cossell he wasnt gonna fight this contender cause he stood to lose more (the championship) than he stood to gain (some more money)

You higher rank player seem to think that once you obtain rank you should be entitled to keep it forever without having to defend it. You protect it like its your retirement fund and make it much harder for anyone else new to obtain the rank than it was for you.

Tell me were there colonel games when YOU were a private ? If you deserve the rank you will be able to defend it in a fair game and you wont have to hide and only play players who you can gain more points from than you can lose.

I just won a game...every single player was ranked lower than me and guess what MY SCORE WENT UP....not as much as it would have if i had beat 2 generals 3 colonels and a major......but I shouldnt expect it to I beat a couple sgts a couple corpals a private and a question mark and then end result was my score went up 66 points

I should be expected to win this game and therefore i should expext to get 66 points in a 7 player game and if i beat a couple of staff officers my score should go up 100+ because I shouldnt be expected to win that game

What are you afraid of ??? that someone might beat you in an honest game ??? are you so insecure that if you weren't an ELITE player your life would suddenly lose meaning ? DEFEND YOUR RANK DONT PROTECT IT


rich

Sounds to me like you're just bitter.

[chessplaya]

I am one of many who play many many open games against all who want to join. I lose to a lot of people and win a few also. My win ratio is decieving it says 35% but - i play terminator. If I did not make the last kill I do not win the game but i do get some points almost every game. In my games I see alot of high rankers join and we also get a lot of low. If I were to start 50 games they would be filled in less than 24 hours. To say that all high Rankers protect their points is just not true.

They like to play and have fun. they enjoy the banter just like we do.

looking over the list of the very high rankers there are only a very select few I have not had join my games. Now it is time to get off the soap box and just play your games.

he was still opening the 10th game when i last joined 10 of his...and yes they r mixed 1 of those games i am playing is filled with question marks...a.k.a deadbeats....a.k.a multies....if either of those a.k.a NOOBIES

and some fileld with "high ranked" and some with "low ranked" and i am just having fun being a part of those games with wacicha and a lot more

[comic boy]

I am one of many who play many many open games against all who want to join. I lose to a lot of people and win a few also. My win ratio is decieving it says 35% but - i play terminator. If I did not make the last kill I do not win the game but i do get some points almost every game. In my games I see alot of high rankers join and we also get a lot of low. If I were to start 50 games they would be filled in less than 24 hours. To say that all high Rankers protect their points is just not true.

They like to play and have fun. they enjoy the banter just like we do.

looking over the list of the very high rankers there are only a very select few I have not had join my games. Now it is time to get off the soap box and just play your games.

As you know I have participated in a number of your games but sadly I will not be doing so in the future. Frankly im fed up with being targeted and some of the appaling play puts me off my breakfast,anybody on this site can get to play with the top players, they just need to learn how to play the game first! The guy who started this thread has been whinging for weeks about this issue but hasn't taken on board anything that has been said to him - Why would I want to play with such an idiot

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

look heres how it really work you play you win you get points its that simple. A high rank player may stand to lose more points in a game to a low rank player but that only happens if he loses. And if he loses to a private he should expect to go down.

if a colonel wins a game even against a cook he gains points simple as that he may only gain 12 instead of 30 but he still gains points and he shouldnt expect to gain as many points beating a newbie as an expierenced player. Is it as easy to beat mainiac as it is a new recruit ? no then why would you expect to gain the same reward for winning.

Your rank is supposed to mean your skilled and you should be expected to defend that rank . Muhammad Ali fought over 50 title defenses and not once did he ever tell Howard Cossell he wasnt gonna fight this contender cause he stood to lose more (the championship) than he stood to gain (some more money)

You higher rank player seem to think that once you obtain rank you should be entitled to keep it forever without having to defend it. You protect it like its your retirement fund and make it much harder for anyone else new to obtain the rank than it was for you.

Tell me were there colonel games when YOU were a private ? If you deserve the rank you will be able to defend it in a fair game and you wont have to hide and only play players who you can gain more points from than you can lose.

I just won a game...every single player was ranked lower than me and guess what MY SCORE WENT UP....not as much as it would have if i had beat 2 generals 3 colonels and a major......but I shouldnt expect it to I beat a couple sgts a couple corpals a private and a question mark and then end result was my score went up 66 points

I should be expected to win this game and therefore i should expext to get 66 points in a 7 player game and if i beat a couple of staff officers my score should go up 100+ because I shouldnt be expected to win that game

What are you afraid of ??? that someone might beat you in an honest game ??? are you so insecure that if you weren't an ELITE player your life would suddenly lose meaning ? DEFEND YOUR RANK DONT PROTECT IT


rich

I lol'd the first 20 times I read this title. I finally had some time today to actually read this post and I lol'd some more.

[MOBAJOBG]

lol and LOL.

[poo-maker]

lol and LOL.

[khazalid]

there are only 2 kinds of cc game that have a target. one is assassin, the other is a 6p game with a colonel (captain if we must) and 5 privates. despite this i still play them. we rose through the ranks by getting good at the game. if youre too incompetent to gain rank then you dont have any sort of right to demand to play someone better who doesnt want to play you. ill jump in a few open games tomorrow.. keep tabs and join if you want but do expect high ranked players to be targeted specifically for the rank. and dont expect to win in spite of this

[hwhrhett]

richnpoor, you dumbass, you keep bitching, but when i sent you links to some games you could join with higher ranked players you said thank you, but never joined any of them. so stop whining and play the game, get better, and work your way up the hard way you wanker.

[richnpoor]

looking at your percentage win...Im lowered ranked but have more percentage then u...Go figure lol

all my games are single player 4 usually 6-7 player singles I have played 2 doubles game how about you

rich

[JOHNNYROCKET24]

looking at your percentage win...Im lowered ranked but have more percentage then u...Go figure lol

all my games are single player 4 usually 6-7 player singles I have played 2 doubles game how about you

rich

look in my sig. that is all