[Official]Adventure time mafia:MAFIA WIN!

[madmitch]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT
Iron Butterfly(1)-ptlowe
The white rose(2)-subtleknifewield,dakky
Dakky21(2)-streaker,mitch
Whatsausage?(1)-cyanineeter
Kevi(1)-Streaker
Madmitch(3)-kratos664,the white rose,Timwoodbury
Streaker(2)-kevi
Cyanineeter(1)IB
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday October 26th(1 day added as a sunday deadline is tough)
For clarification purposes,you do NOT need to unvote,before switching your vote to another player.
Unvote is only necessary if you want your vote removed but not switched to another player

As you can see there is a double vote here! was it a mistake Endgame? if not what have you got to say Streaker?

[the white rose]

i do not know what you are trying to get me to respond to, you accuse me of being godfather, i denied it.

dakky was pushed by ragian while i was voting mitch. dakky's claim at l-2 was that he was jake the dog, but refused to elaborate, i like ragian didn't accept that so i switched my vote from a soft claimed cop to a mafia roleblocker with the double voter on him this was enough to get him lynched despite your superfast legit claim unvote...now i have you and wing accusing me of being a double voting mafia lynching godfather

...and now you tell me i do not need to mention godfather, but yet you are wanting me to respond to you calling me that which i do not need to mention.

Have I really got that right???? you want be to respond to you calling me godfather but tell me i don't need to mention godfather? whatever, I have already responded to that.

thanks for those clarifications

now what do you want me to say?

you want me to admit to being godfather? well i could, but i am not the godfather, all this talk of wifom is confusing me.

I am town alligned, if you do not believe me then go ahead and lynch me, that would be town's mistake not mine.

now what bit of that do you not understand? perhaps scum have a different language and find english somewhat challenging?

If you feel however that somehow i have not answered your questions, please ask me a direct question and i will give you a direct reply

[the white rose]

Official Vote Count
Whatsausage?(1)Cyanineeter
Thewhiterose(1)subtleknifewield
Dakky21(5)IB,madmitch,Streaker,timwoodbury,ragian L-2
Streaker(1)Kevi
Madmitch(4)Kratos664,thewhiterose,whatsausage,dakky L-3
IronButterfly(1)Ptlowe
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch
DEADLINE WILL BE LATE THIS EVENING (Oct 26)Around midnight(00:00) CC time.

thats a good spot mitch, however, i wonder if it were a mistake as the above is what the voting was like before i added mine and as can be seen kevi was not on the bw and his vote only counted as one against streaker

so in short, a good spot, but i fear a red herring

[TimWoodbury]

If I were to pick an alternative scum to streaker, then i would have to go for ptlowe, another good player who has kept a distinctive low profile and is offering nothing towards the town effort of identifying scum.

It is true that since mitch claiming cop and clearing me, i have posted in a more free manner without any care as to whether my posts are interpreted as scum or not. not convinced of mitch's claim as yet, but nothing to suggest that he is lying.

cyan would be a top pick if he were not so hunted by streaker.

Sorry, can't offer anything else....time will tell if i am right or not.

with mitch soft claiming hes likley dead tonight (dont think skum would be balzy enough to pull 2 frame the cop games this close to each other)
most likley then followed by you the next day

[TimWoodbury]

thanks for those clarifications

now what do you want me to say?

you want me to admit to being godfather? well i could, but i am not the godfather, all this talk of wifom is confusing me.

I am town alligned, if you do not believe me then go ahead and lynch me, that would be town's mistake not mine.

All I have ever done is to look for suspicious posts.....I found one from Dakky and jumped on him, turned out I was right, then i found one from streaker....am i right, i really do not know, no one else seems convinced and it may have been a genuine mistake by him.....now i see that wing is wanting to lynch me if i am the double voter, ie the one who hammered dakky....he justifies this by claiming i may be a mafia double voter who for some reason decided to move from mitch to dakky to lynch a scum mate....then i get accused of scum for unvoting after his claim, but why on earth would i do that if i were a scum double voter who had just lynched a fellow scum? mitch then claims cop and has investigated me and found me town....so now i am suddenly a double voting godfather who lynched a scum mate? ....and all this cos i am a regular poster examining every post for annomolies and posting my suspicions.

if you really believe that i am a double voting godfather who has just lynched a scum mate then go ahead and lynch me, you will have mafia laughing all night long.

sometimes you know a spade is just a spade and wifom means you are enjoying a glass of wine with your dinner.

now maybe i should take a leaf out of ptlowe's book and just stop posting leaving the rest of town to find scum without my help.

this is really sounding like me in my 1st game where sum was pushing me super hard i was saying anything and everything +1 for twr 100% townie to me now

[TimWoodbury]

OFFICIAL VOTE COUNT
Iron Butterfly(1)-ptlowe
The white rose(2)-subtleknifewield,dakky
Dakky21(2)-streaker,mitch
Whatsausage?(1)-cyanineeter
Kevi(1)-Streaker
Madmitch(3)-kratos664,the white rose,Timwoodbury
Streaker(2)-kevi
Cyanineeter(1)IB
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.
Deadline is Monday October 26th(1 day added as a sunday deadline is tough)
For clarification purposes,you do NOT need to unvote,before switching your vote to another player.
Unvote is only necessary if you want your vote removed but not switched to another player

As you can see there is a double vote here! was it a mistake Endgame? if not what have you got to say Streaker?

mitch you are reading that backards that is either a mistake OR Kevi is the double voter

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

White Rose - My post wasnt meant as an accusation right now. Look at my position. IB got killed last night. Without any knowledge of my role Mafia will likely kill me soon anyway. In this game I have a tonne more experience and am trying to lead the game. Currently only Mitchs soft claim might be a better kill to make. If I survive that long I will be shocked. So I cannot afford to sit on any posts that ideally I would prefer to make D4 onwards.

Tim - That doesnt make him necessarily town, it just means we shouldnt push him to breaking point for getting muddled. I know in my early games I was always seen as scum for making similar mistakes, so I wont judge him for it.

@Pix- So what? You said you were going to push inactives. You never said your push was going to be a completely pointless single vote with no attempt to gather additional information. If Cyan only makes a one liner, he will not be replaced. It is up to you and not the mod to engage in discussion. Now you are expanding by saying you want his opinion on the game. What exactly is it that you want his opinion on? Do you want his reads on particular players? Maybe you want to know why he didnt vote Dakky yesterday? Or do you want to know what his opinion is on the White Rose/Streaker argument? All much better as there are specific questions to be answered.

[*Pixar*]

I can't read someone who doesnt post, me voting and others voting will get him to post at least something, i dont care what he posts as long as its something

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I can't read someone who doesnt post, me voting and others voting will get him to post at least something, i dont care what he posts as long as its something

So basically you dont give a shit about his alignment and just want to lynch him regardless? Cool story bro. Dont mind me if I ignore everything you say from now on.

[*Pixar*]

lol good by me, but never did I say in there lynch either, another skimmed read nice

[madmitch]

@ STREAKER I do not understand why you would remark that a cop investigating someone and got a read of innocent or town does not make that person not mafia Maybe I have not played in enough games but I have not see that yet. MY read was town and I think you said what you said to try to get people after TWR and if their is a godfather it is you

[the white rose]

Pixar, you have my sympathy. If cyan refuses to contribute then it may be that the only way to get him to contribute would be to get him close to being lynched say l-2.

No idea whether he is scum or not....but then he is not the only one and it is ptlowe that i would rather put under pressure first.

@wing, seems its only been you and streaker pushing me. You easing off now does not drop you down my list of suspects. right now i believe you and streaker to be a scum pair. Open to being convinced otherwise should someone else make a glaring mistake....wanting to lynch me or anybody else who happens to be the double voter using the argument that he or she may be a mafia double voter is imho a huge mistake as whoever the double voter is, without that vote dakky may have survived with streaker believing his claim and unvoting.

[Streaker]

@ STREAKER I do not understand why you would remark that a cop investigating someone and got a read of innocent or town does not make that person not mafia Maybe I have not played in enough games but I have not see that yet. MY read was town and I think you said what you said to try to get people after TWR and if their is a godfather it is you

Mitch, I will try to post this as clearly as possible for you. There are power roles in mafia (in general, no evidence yet in this game) where if a cop investigates a mafia, it is POSSIBLE to get a town result on them. You getting a town result, does not mean it is a SURE thing.

[Streaker]

i do not know what you are trying to get me to respond to, you accuse me of being godfather, i denied it.

dakky was pushed by ragian while i was voting mitch. dakky's claim at l-2 was that he was jake the dog, but refused to elaborate, i like ragian didn't accept that so i switched my vote from a soft claimed cop to a mafia roleblocker with the double voter on him this was enough to get him lynched despite your superfast legit claim unvote...now i have you and wing accusing me of being a double voting mafia lynching godfather

...and now you tell me i do not need to mention godfather, but yet you are wanting me to respond to you calling me that which i do not need to mention.

Have I really got that right???? you want be to respond to you calling me godfather but tell me i don't need to mention godfather? whatever, I have already responded to that.

thanks for those clarifications

now what do you want me to say?

you want me to admit to being godfather? well i could, but i am not the godfather, all this talk of wifom is confusing me.

I am town alligned, if you do not believe me then go ahead and lynch me, that would be town's mistake not mine.

now what bit of that do you not understand? perhaps scum have a different language and find english somewhat challenging?

If you feel however that somehow i have not answered your questions, please ask me a direct question and i will give you a direct reply

I quoted the post I want you to respond to. It has NOTHING to do with a role. It's about you being inconsistent.

[the white rose]

you posted a whole page of accusations including the godfather bit.

if you believe i have been inconsistent, please be specific, if you cannot, then i will not allow you to muddy the waters by talking about wifom or godfathers

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Pixar, you have my sympathy. If cyan refuses to contribute then it may be that the only way to get him to contribute would be to get him close to being lynched say l-2.

And then what? he gets to L-2 and still nobody has asked any questions so he still doesnt offer anything. This is basics of human interaction, if you ask a question, the chances of getting a response rise hundredfold.

@wing, seems its only been you and streaker pushing me. You easing off now does not drop you down my list of suspects. right now i believe you and streaker to be a scum pair. Open to being convinced otherwise should someone else make a glaring mistake....wanting to lynch me or anybody else who happens to be the double voter using the argument that he or she may be a mafia double voter is imho a huge mistake as whoever the double voter is, without that vote dakky may have survived with streaker believing his claim and unvoting.

You dont understand my argument. And you also dont see that I am not actually pushing you. There are three of us in the game making 90% of the posts, dont fall into that trap. Keep an open mind.

[the white rose]

thank you i will.

perhaps i do not understand your argument, does anybody else other than streaker?

basically wing said if he were to find out that i was the double voter he would want to lynch me. Now lets suppose for a minute I was. Means i hammered dakky from l-2....wings argument is that a double voter may well be a scum double voter, true, but would a scum double voter hammer a scum mate from l-2? so why would wing want to take the risk and lynch what is most probably a town double voter?

wing, can i ask you, should ragian claim to be the double voter would you want to lynch him too, if not why me and not him?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

well you would be protected by a town pr role, maybe doctor or bus driver.

you first jumped on me when kratos voted me, then you quickly switched to mitch when no-one else joined your BW and mitch accused you of being scum, now you refuse to claim.....all sounds too scummy to me. what are you afraid of dakky? being counterclaimed?

tell you what lets see if going l-1 makes you change your mind

vote dakky

Because if you are the doublevoter you pretended to push for a claim with your vote wihilst actually hammering. Thats not a town play. Role does not equal alignment.

[Streaker]

you posted a whole page of accusations including the godfather bit.

if you believe i have been inconsistent, please be specific, if you cannot, then i will not allow you to muddy the waters by talking about wifom or godfathers

I asked who your 'case' was gonna be on. You said dakky. But you followed it up with a vote on mitch. You didn't even mention until the very limit end of D1, where you unvoted mitch, voted dakky, and quicly unvoted again. I called you out, also, because you said dakky was jumpy for 'all those votes'.

See the inconsistency there?

[the white rose]

you posted a whole page of accusations including the godfather bit.

if you believe i have been inconsistent, please be specific, if you cannot, then i will not allow you to muddy the waters by talking about wifom or godfathers

I asked who your 'case' was gonna be on. You said dakky. But you followed it up with a vote on mitch. You didn't even mention until the very limit end of D1, where you unvoted mitch, voted dakky, and quicly unvoted again. I called you out, also, because you said dakky was jumpy for 'all those votes'.

See the inconsistency there?

no, i don't.

i initially joke voted dakky, but soon switched to mitch based on him supporting ib, later i realised that dakky's half claim was preposterous, so i switched my vote to him, bringing him to l-1, finally he claimed properly, not understanding a jake the dog claim, i initially unvoted to prevent scum from hammering what could prove a townie (i was unaware of your unvote at the time)....having studied the claim i realised as you should also have that his claim was very poor and could not be, so i was posting a revote on him, but before i finished the post endgame had called a lynch and night had begun.

I did have my eye on dakky even as i unvoted, this was the theory i was working on, to see how he would react without pressure. it pretty much came to naught as others put on pressure, this forced him into half a claim that was so ridiculous it required another vote to put him at l-1, finally that brought a proper claim from him, one that i had the opportunity to study. As previously said after studying in i came to the conclusion that he must indeed be scum.

don't see anything inconsistent there

[the white rose]

well you would be protected by a town pr role, maybe doctor or bus driver.

you first jumped on me when kratos voted me, then you quickly switched to mitch when no-one else joined your BW and mitch accused you of being scum, now you refuse to claim.....all sounds too scummy to me. what are you afraid of dakky? being counterclaimed?

tell you what lets see if going l-1 makes you change your mind

vote dakky

Because if you are the doublevoter you pretended to push for a claim with your vote wihilst actually hammering. Thats not a town play. Role does not equal alignment.

hammering a scum is not a town play? hmmm, seems i have a lot to learn about this game, i thought that was precisely what i was expected to do. had he turned out to be town, i could see your point, but hey wing, i hammered a scum if you assume that i was indeed the double voter.

I asked you a question though that you have not yet answered....you say you would lynch me if i turned out to be the double voter,,,,,what if it turned out to be ragian?

I do, however accept that there are many quiet voices here, and we could well be 3 or 4 townies arguing and accusing each other while the real scum just sit back and watch.

therefore i am changing my vote, not because i do not suspect streaker anymore but i want to hear from these guys who are not playing the game.

vote ptlowe

[the white rose]

now lets start again and forget about accusing each other and get some input from others who are not posting or we start lynching them.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

I asked you a question though that you have not yet answered....you say you would lynch me if i turned out to be the double voter,,,,,what if it turned out to be ragian?

Rage would not have been pretending his doublevote was a simple push for claim. So no it would not make him scum.

If you can not see that voting for mafia is not an exclusive town action, then I presume you believe that all 5 who voted for Dakky are town? Oh wait you've been harping on about Streaker all day, so dont give me that crap.

[the white rose]

no but i am sure that whoever the double voter is, is indeed town

[the white rose]

I asked you a question though that you have not yet answered....you say you would lynch me if i turned out to be the double voter,,,,,what if it turned out to be ragian?

Rage would not have been pretending his doublevote was a simple push for claim. So no it would not make him scum.

If you can not see that voting for mafia is not an exclusive town action, then I presume you believe that all 5 who voted for Dakky are town? Oh wait you've been harping on about Streaker all day, so dont give me that crap.

look, what is the matter with you? we are not talking about a simple vote for mafia, of course scum will vote for mafia, we are talking about A DOUBLE VOTE. Don't you get it, without the double vote scum would have survived l-1 when streaker and yes me, albeit temporarily unvoted him, but because of the double vote dakky was lynched. whereever the double vote came from it caused dakky to be lynched, that was a good thing, yes? without the double vote dakky would not have been lynched, therefore how can you say that the double voter was anything but town aligned?...and if you assume that i am the double voter and scum, despite cop's innocent find on me, then that can only mean i must be a scum double voting scum lynching godfather.....now really wing are you suggesting that?

No longer am i gonna respond to these ludricous allegations, if thats what you truly belief then town have no bloody chance in this game....think its much more likely that you are scum and trying to identify the double voter in the hope that you can convince town that he or she is scum and should be lynched.

Now lets stop all this nonsense and guard against what you yourself are preaching....there are 7 players here who hardly speak, ,,,,i still think you and streaker are a scum pair, but in light of any support i would be prepared to look at others.