[Official] Choose Your Own Mafia - TOWN WINS

by **Endgame422** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:02 am

Benga,
If i was scum dont you think i would have killed you last night?
You stated you thought i was scum while subtle thought i was town.
Mets set it all up perfectly,except he didnt know i was onto him yesterday when pix flipped doc.
He kept the players he thought he could turn against each other(you and I)because he knew he couldnt kill me and subtle was much more likely to listen to me then you are.
The writing is on the wall for everyone to see.
Choose wisely.

by **Metsfanmax** on Thu Oct 15, 2015 11:17 am

benga wrote:You being cop mets doesnt mean you aint mafia.

Of course not. It is hard to infer my alignment from my role in a game like this. I don't expect you to believe that I am town because I am the cop.

What I ask is that you look at the game record and decide for yourself whether it's a better fit that I am town or scum. I claimed on D2 so that I could help town kill as many scum as possible. Endgame claims I was banking on having Pixar as a scum buddy to protect me, but it would still be a pretty ballsy move given that there are roles like Empowerer and Roleblocker out there, and that Pixar could have died at any time. Pixar has been playing scummy the whole game; it would have been stupid for me to rely on him surviving as my guarantee for the win (because as soon as he died, I would be naked for the other mafia to kill me). You've got to give me more credit as a mafia player than that.

So I think I've earned town trust given how many mafia I've helped take down. And how open I was with the information -- I have told the truth immediately about every investigation I have made. Sure, it is possible I might have done the same thing as a scum cop. You have to decide which is more likely. Maybe you should go back through the posts and, given what you know now, decide whose posts make more sense as the remaining scum.

Sorry to leave it on you, man, but that's just how it ended up.

by **Marashu** on Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:14 am

Daily Vote Count:

Endgame: Metsfanmax
Metsfanmax: Endgame

Not voting: Benga

With 3 alive, it takes 2 votes to lynch. Deadline is Thursday, October 22, at 0600CCT.

by **Endgame422** on Fri Oct 16, 2015 5:50 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:Sorry to leave it on you, man, but that's just how it ended up.

Sorry implying that he had a choice,"Sorry i had to kill subtle last night and leave it on you"
This is practically a confession.
Plus theres still no way town cop makes it to Lylo in a game where the only doc was mafia and he claimed D2.
Im alive because im 1 waybusdriver so i cant be killed by scum.
I just doesnt add up for mets to be here and alive with scum having 4 chances to kill him unless pix was protecting him.
When you combine that with at least 2 scum kills that were blocked over the 4 nights,either AoG was targeted by mafia A 2x
Or AoG tried to kill mets 2x, once after he busted streaker,and once the night AoG was investigated.
Which of those is more likely?

by **Metsfanmax** on Fri Oct 16, 2015 10:23 pm

Endgame422 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Sorry to leave it on you, man, but that's just how it ended up.

Sorry implying that he had a choice,"Sorry i had to kill subtle last night and leave it on you"
This is practically a confession.

Ridiculous. What I meant is, sorry that you (benga) have to be the third party that sorts out the dispute between Endgame and myself, despite not creating that dispute. I know how much it sucks to have the pressure of the game-deciding vote in your hands, and I'm just commiserating with him. You're the one somehow turning this sympathy comment to match your personal agenda, which speaks volumes about your motives.

Im alive because im 1 waybusdriver so i cant be killed by scum.

No, you're probably alive because you're scum and Pixar was protecting you. You're just using a conveniently undisprovable roleclaim to help construct a story about how we got to where we are. I'm not going to play that game because of the multitude of possibilities involved; I never do, in any game, because it's a scum tactic designed to mislead town from thinking clearly by anchoring them to a particular scenario.

by **Endgame422** on Sat Oct 17, 2015 7:54 pm

Ive got to hand it you mets.
Your a pro and even though its obvious to me that your scum and have been running a gambit since D1,you have done such a good job faking it that i wouldnt be suprised or even upset if benga shows up and lynches me. A bit disappointed in the loss at Lylo but still.
Only AoG and myself figured you out while we were alive,though admittedly i had the most chances and you had me totally suckered until pix died.
So yeah good game regardless of bengas decision.

by **benga** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 1:50 am

vote mets
Time to see what i did

by **Marashu** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:37 am

FINAL VOTE COUNT:

Endgame: Metsfanmax
Metsfanmax: Endgame, benga

Metsfanmax has been lynched. He was Mafia A Cop.

TOWN WINS Congratulations Town, and thank you all for playing. I will post detailed notes on Night Actions, role requests, and the like, after work.

by **Streaker** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 4:42 am

Well done benga and Endgame for pulling out the win at the very end.

Congratulations to Mets for an incredibly played game. Wait until you guys read the Dead Chat

While this is a Town victory, I'll likely vote Mets for MVP.
Endgame a close second, for his great use of PR and general play.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:00 am

Commiserations Mets, that was well played.

by **madmitch** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:03 am

well played guys, thanks for the game

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 5:05 am

virus90 wrote:oops been a while since last mafia game not a regular in the forum no more. i Confirm!

i can go with the end of list theory, but i would like to pick a target that wingcmdr isnt choosing then. i mean the idea has some merit in my opinion but could just be scum telling the idea. so rather not have wing in charge of the selection then

Confirm
Co
Cop

Only capital in his entire post.

WHAT IS THIS VIRUS.

by **benga** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:27 am

wp mets!

by **Streaker** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:28 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
virus90 wrote:oops been a while since last mafia game not a regular in the forum no more. i Confirm!

i can go with the end of list theory, but i would like to pick a target that wingcmdr isnt choosing then. i mean the idea has some merit in my opinion but could just be scum telling the idea. so rather not have wing in charge of the selection then

Confirm
Co
Cop

Only capital in his entire post.

WHAT IS THIS VIRUS.

by **Endgame422** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:48 am

benga wrote:vote mets
Time to see what i did

Yes!
I was so worried that calling benga scum D4 was going to bite me in the ass and cost town the game.
Once again though mets played this one like a pro right up until the end,respect.
Good.game evryone and sorry i got you killed Hotshot,not sure why I ALWAYS think your scum.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 8:52 am

http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/tXZt2VtmkLcQe - Dead Topic

by ***Pixar*** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 10:12 am

oh we cant vote mets..

by **benga** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 11:12 am

I'm rooting for mets of course! my partner in crime, I honestly think benga is dumb enough to vote endgame

ahahaha

Endgame422 wrote:
benga wrote:vote mets
Time to see what i did

Yes!
I was so worried that calling benga scum D4 was going to bite me in the ass and cost town the game.
Once again though mets played this one like a pro right up until the end,respect.
Good.game evryone and sorry i got you killed Hotshot,not sure why I ALWAYS think your scum.

Well my thoughts were, mets left me cause I had my eyes on you, so he will have less trouble talking me into voting you then knife.

HS does appear like a mobster

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 12:14 pm

Oh boy. I tried. But Endgame basically nailed the explanation and I couldn't come up with a really solid thing attempting to prove him wrong. After all, cop surviving to the end of this game is pretty indefensible as town.

To those who were wondering in the dead topic: I was almost certain after Pix showed up dead that Endgame was the bus driver, and so if it were a me vs. Endgame situation then I would lose, so I had no choice but to attempt to lynch Endgame, then kill benga in the last night. I was pretty sure that Endgame had to have figured out what was going on after Pix flipped as scum doctor -- most competent players would -- but after I realized he was the bus driver I had no choice.

I was pretty sure I could fight my way through Pix dying, and I was pretty sure I could fight my way through not getting a town kill on N4, but I just wasn't at all prepared for having both things happen at the same time!

Well done benga for not falling for my crappy explanation, and well done Endgame. For what it's worth, I felt bad lying so baldly about your play, but I really wanted to win after everything that had happened.

by **HotShot53** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:55 pm

Endgame422 wrote:Good.game evryone and sorry i got you killed Hotshot,not sure why I ALWAYS think your scum.

benga wrote:
HS does appear like a mobster

Lol, as I've said before... the more I look like scum, the more likely I am to be town... and the more I look like town, the more likely I am to be scum. I think the issue is that when town I don't know what's going on, so I am cautious and don't know what to say, so it looks like I'm scummarizing and not scum hunting. When scum, I know exactly what I am doing, so I can make cases (real or made up), and seem more confident and towny.

by **HotShot53** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 2:56 pm

And good game endgame, your redirects and final argument to get mets lynched won us the game, you will win MVP deservedly

by **Marashu** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:30 pm

Mafia A QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/4caDZgWmwVh
Mafia B QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/P668B324Nsvh
Dead QT: http://www.quicktopic.com/51/H/tXZt2VtmkLcQe

Name and request:
Metsfanmax - Cop
TimWoodbury - Vigilante
Epitaph1 - Watcher
WingCmdr Ginkapo - Bomb
Pixar - Doctor
Army of GOD - Bulletproof
Endgame422 - One-way Busdriver
Whatsausage - Watcher
Subtleknifewield - Watcher
Streaker - Double Voter
HotShot53 - Watcher
dakky21 - Watcher
ptlowe - Bomb
madmitch - Watcher
benga - Watcher

NIGHT ACTIONS

Night 1
Endgame redirects to Streaker
Epitaph watches Tim
Mets investigates Streaker
Pixar protects Mets
Tim takes No Action
Dakky kills Wing (KABOOM)
AoG kills Mets (PROTECTED)
Mets kills Epitaph

Night 2
Endgame redirects to HotShot
Mets investigates HotShot
Pixar protects Mets
Tim kills WhatSausage
AoG kills Endgame (redirected to HotShot)
Pixar kills Tim

Night 3
Endgame redirects to Pixar
Mets investigates AoG
Pixar protects Mets
Mets kills Endgame (redirects to Pixar)
AoT kills Endgame (redirects to Pixar)

Night 4
Endgame redirects to Mets
Mets investigates benga
Mets kills subtleknifewield

I'll be reviewing the game for the mod's pick prizes. The MVP poll is up for one week. I have to say, though, that I was really impressed by all the teams.

by **Marashu** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:31 pm

Also, I would like to note that Mets predicted Tim's role request within an hour of Tim PMing it to me.

by **HotShot53** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:39 pm

Wow, 7 of us picked watcher... just wait, next game no-one will pick it lol

by **Whatsausage** on Mon Oct 19, 2015 3:45 pm

Interesting that I was the highest not to get a role, but 5 people behind me tried for the same role as I. Also surprised no one picked tracker, oops

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