Silver Bullet mafia (2/7)Scum wins

by **dakky21** on Fri Aug 14, 2015 5:50 am

Why do you say "just" going for VT claim? I can't claim anything else, I'm not a WW and I'm not mafia.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:04 am

dakky21 wrote:Why do you say "just" going for VT claim? I can't claim anything else, I'm not a WW and I'm not mafia.

To see what your reaction would be. You ignored the silver bullet possibility and are still unhappy with my poking. If you are not mafia then who is? Who is the werewolf?

by **dakky21** on Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:27 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
dakky21 wrote:Why do you say "just" going for VT claim? I can't claim anything else, I'm not a WW and I'm not mafia.

To see what your reaction would be. You ignored the silver bullet possibility and are still unhappy with my poking. If you are not mafia then who is? Who is the werewolf?

How should I know who is mafia or werewolf. It's day one and I can only take a guess, and my first suspect would be inactive dazza for either of these two.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:39 am

dakky21 wrote:
WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
dakky21 wrote:Why do you say "just" going for VT claim? I can't claim anything else, I'm not a WW and I'm not mafia.

To see what your reaction would be. You ignored the silver bullet possibility and are still unhappy with my poking. If you are not mafia then who is? Who is the werewolf?

How should I know who is mafia or werewolf. It's day one and I can only take a guess, and my first suspect would be inactive dazza for either of these two.

Problem here is that there are two games in archive in reference for you. In the game you were town you were lynched D1 for pushing too hard and actually scumhunting. In the other game you were mafia and tried to stay out of D1 as much as possible, spouting the same rubbish you are spouting now.

There is enough information to make reads on all except Mitch and Dazza. Who is town, who is mafia, and who is werewolf?

by **dazza2008** on Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:38 pm

Been mega busy. Will post more over the weekend. Read through fast but need to re-read.

by **madmitch** on Fri Aug 14, 2015 4:55 pm

glad to see you Daz, now maybe we can get somewhere, who are you? accusations are out there,are you the ww? bark once for yes ,two barks no , as for you Dakky , lets end this . UNVOTE

by **dakky21** on Fri Aug 14, 2015 7:27 pm

madmitch wrote:glad to see you Daz, now maybe we can get somewhere, who are you? accusations are out there,are you the ww? bark once for yes ,two barks no , as for you Dakky , lets end this . UNVOTE

just a quick question... why did you vote me and then unvote me? Are you afraid of Dazza voting me and lynching me? If you would like anyone to get lyched, sure, unvote, don't be a part of it. But you will still get the kill... seems I might be correct after all, by pure luck day one. Vote on you stands.

by **madmitch** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:34 am

I didn,t want a kill on day 1 and I am not quite sure about you yet, keep your vote on me if you want,I want to hear from Daz and make my mind up then.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 7:20 am

Aage Streaker - Thoughts? Madmitch is confusing things for me.

by **Streaker** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:00 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Aage Streaker - Thoughts? Madmitch is confusing things for me.

And you think I have a clear read on him? A age will say the same. He did this in he and was scum, he did it as town,too.

Waiting for more from hs and especially dazza. I don't agree we cannot afford lynching in actives aage

by **aage** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:33 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Aage Streaker - Thoughts? Madmitch is confusing things for me.

Mitch is a wild card, I'm not interested in lynching him right away because of that. In HP mafia he never removed his vote on day 1 without immediately re-voting, so that kind of speaks for him, but the problem with Mitch is that he has no clear tell because his town play is also very scummy.
The interactions between Mitch and others are more interesting though. I'm not sure how to read Dakky's vote right now. Combined with his provoking remarks towards Mitch, his vote on Mitch is a self fulfilling prophecy. I'm really not liking that, it's the easiest of easy votes. If Dakky never played with Mitch and hasn't realised that this is just what Mitch does, I could understand, but Dakky himself said he played with Mitch before - in fact, the entire interaction between them seems based on Dakky's reference to this. He voted Mitch in the full expectation that Mitch would vote back, and when Mitch does vote, Dakky says it's a scum tell. I really want Dakky to explain this logic. Why is it scummy that Mitch does something you predicted he'd do?

@Streaker, only 7 players in the game, small game like this it's easy to replace. If people aren't posting after a while but aren't being replaced, sure we can hang them because that's scummy. At the moment I don't think inactivity is any indication of scumminess though, we're way too early in the game.

by **aage** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:36 am

aage wrote:
dakky21 wrote:This is I think only my second game with WCG. What I wonder is - why everyone trusts him? He could be ww as well as mafia. He is only attacking others and doesn't provide any valuable info on himself.
Firstly, what do you mean by trusting Wing? It's rather early to disproportionally mistrust anyone right now. Sure he could be ww or mafia, but anyone could be ww or mafia. Your implied premise of not trusting him doesn't help anyone - we can't have reads if we don't have a conversation. Secondly, what kind of valuable info would you like him to provide on himself? His aggressive play should actually help you in reading him. We all could go around claiming VT but that won't do anything.

Not trying to defend Wing but your points are in no way unique to Wing.

Also Dakky could you please respond to this. I honestly didn't understand what you meant with trusting Wing.

by **aage** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:38 am

For the record I'm actually reading Dakky town atm, he's picking way too many fights. I don't think he'd play this risky as mafia.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:43 am

aage wrote:For the record I'm actually reading Dakky town atm, he's picking way too many fights. I don't think he'd play this risky as mafia.

What fights is he picking. The fight with me is mostly of my initiation, and I dont see who else he is really arguing with?

Read this post from when he was previously mafia in a C9. viewtopic.php?f=610&t=212163&start=75#p4659488

by **aage** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:49 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
aage wrote:For the record I'm actually reading Dakky town atm, he's picking way too many fights. I don't think he'd play this risky as mafia.

What fights is he picking. The fight with me is mostly of my initiation, and I dont see who else he is really arguing with?

Read this post from when he was previously mafia in a C9. https://www.conquerclub.com/forum/viewt ... 5#p4659488

That's an interesting observation. Do you think he's pulling the exact same play in this game as mafia?

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:54 am

I'm too stuck in the middle of this to see it clearly. So I'm waiting on Dazza's reading.

Pretty sure you and Streaker arent scum together, so just wanted to see how you both saw it.

by **dakky21** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:57 am

aage wrote:Also Dakky could you please respond to this. I honestly didn't understand what you meant with trusting Wing.

I meant why am I being attacked by Wing, and no one else asks him where is he standing. Last game I was town and was really scumhunting like Wing said, but got lynched instead. This game I am town and defending from Wing, while no one asks him why is he so eager to lynch me.

I believe you are more town than Wing.

by **HotShot53** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 10:33 am

dakky21 wrote:
Hotshot, dazza voting himself doesn't mean anything, I did that in that other game and got insta-lynched... dazza is scummy silent, but then as well he might be town as well, just inactive

My vote is a "pressure" vote to encourage participation... still waiting for an actual post from dazza, so my vote will stay where it is for now.

At the moment, I would lynch between dazza for his inactivity, or dakky for his trying to get an easy lynch of mitch... will wait a bit longer for dazza though.

Dakky and mitch probably aren't scum together anyway lol

by **madmitch** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 4:26 pm

HotShot53 wrote:
dakky21 wrote:
Hotshot, dazza voting himself doesn't mean anything, I did that in that other game and got insta-lynched... dazza is scummy silent, but then as well he might be town as well, just inactive

My vote is a "pressure" vote to encourage participation... still waiting for an actual post from dazza, so my vote will stay where it is for now.

At the moment, I would lynch between dazza for his inactivity, or dakky for his trying to get an easy lynch of mitch... will wait a bit longer for dazza though.

Dakky and mitch probably aren't scum together anyway lol

glad you realize that,so you knowing this makes you the ww or scum

by **dakky21** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 5:28 pm

madmitch wrote:glad you realize that,so you knowing this makes you the ww or scum

Since I have a town read on aage, I still have a feeling like you are ww (or even scum) and hotshot seems town. That leaves wing, dazza and streaker as a possible scum besides you.

by **madmitch** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 8:45 pm

@ Dakky still attacking me WOW ,that is your right but are really starting to annoy me and this constant fishing is actually making you look scummy,maybe I should have left my vote on you,oh well lots of time left O:)

by **dakky21** on Sat Aug 15, 2015 9:46 pm

madmitch wrote:@ Dakky still attacking me WOW ,that is your right but are really starting to annoy me and this constant fishing is actually making you look scummy,maybe I should have left my vote on you,oh well lots of time left

Yes, I'm still attacking you because you said no lynch first, then voted me, then unvoted... and now you say you should have left vote on me. Why didn't you vote me again? Afraid of going bandwagon again?
Your play just doesn't seems right at the moment. Anyway.... if you were mafia, you'd probably leave your vote on me and wait for the 4th vote.... so I wil... but you still have my FOS

unvote, vote Dazza

by **madmitch** on Sun Aug 16, 2015 3:48 am

@ Dakky ,Ha I knew you were the WW with that FOS remark ( favorite old smell ) :lol:

just kidding we are finally on the right track together. Have not heard fro Daz, about time to make things happen. VOTE DAZZA

by **Endgame422** on Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:42 am

Official Vote Count
Dakky(1):Wing,
Dazza(3):HotShot,dakky,mitch
Aage(1):Streaker
Deadline is tuesday august 18th in the evening CC time.

I did send dazza a prod.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Sun Aug 16, 2015 8:51 am

Dakky is mafia. 100% confirmed. Scum dont need to make a push on an inactive if they are not under threat.

If Dazza was anything other than town, this game might have progressed since my first post suggesting Dazza and Dakky as lynch choices. It has not. There clearly arent many town voices here.

Streaker is town. Aage is Dakky's partner. Hotshot is Werewolf.

Game Over.

QED

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