[Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [8/14] D4:Twisted Pattern

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:03 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:Mets is Town in case anyone decides to get stupid.

Untainted or just gut feel?

by **Iron Butterfly** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 2:59 pm

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:Mets is Town in case anyone decides to get stupid.

Untainted or just gut feel?

What part did you not understand?

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:10 pm

Why does everyone get overtly defensive when asked to provide clarity? This is a game based on communication.

You have claimed your role so do not need to avoid declaring that you visited Mets N2.

The last person to make a statement similar to yours was Storr defending Mtam. Your word alone doesnt make him town.

by **StorrZerg** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:36 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
madmitch wrote:I have no night action, I can only visit someone during the day.

I asked you to visit me yesterday and yet you did not...why???

If all you can do is visit. We could have solved a major question.

probably cuz mafia lol?

name claimed to get pressure off

did that shit in hairy potter.

by **HotShot53** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 3:47 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
madmitch wrote:I have no night action, I can only visit someone during the day.

I asked you to visit me yesterday and yet you did not...why???

If all you can do is visit. We could have solved a major question.

probably cuz mafia lol?

name claimed to get pressure off

did that shit in hairy potter.

Except that in this game, Marashu and I also need to complete the journey, and also have no night actions... so I wouldn't be surprised if he's telling the truth this time.

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Why does everyone get overtly defensive when asked to provide clarity? This is a game based on communication.

You have claimed your role so do not need to avoid declaring that you visited Mets N2.

The last person to make a statement similar to yours was Storr defending Mtam. Your word alone doesnt make him town.

IB, if you visited mets night 2 and cleared him... I will take your word for it for now. If you didn't visit him and are just like storr "he's town because I say he's town", then I will reserve my right to think he's scum.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:12 pm

Btw guys, I am not sure who Storr's character is anymore. I thought he was nynaeve, but cannot be since IB claimed. I cant see a merchant flsvour being town. There are some non-threatening third party options, but its not clear. He has been defensive about claiming name all game. Third party would explain why.

by **StorrZerg** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:32 pm

Im not 3p. i am town.

if i was i'd be screaming for virus's head a lot loude

by **StorrZerg** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:34 pm

virus probably can be converted. if thats what your thinking about ib since he isn't of light

by **StorrZerg** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 4:38 pm

WING WHO ARE YOU SHOOTING

by **madmitch** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 5:03 pm

I was going to visit you Iron Butterfly but you said I was either scum or stupid so I said screw it,then I found out you were looking for two women in your quest and as you know my day action is visiting someone and seeing what happens or what is offered to me for my vote.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:23 pm

madmitch wrote:I was going to visit you Iron Butterfly but you said I was either scum or stupid so I said screw it,then I found out you were looking for two women in your quest and as you know my day action is visiting someone and seeing what happens or what is offered to me for my vote.

I find it hard to believe the head honcho is slumming the way you are.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 7:41 pm

StorrZerg wrote:virus probably can be converted. if thats what your thinking about ib since he isn't of light

I would think so. Also a third party that can not be killed at night worries me. Granted he is a survivor, we know he is a survivor so he needs to mind his P's and Q's. He is on his best Town behavior. If for any reason the balance suddenly shifted, like two or three Town dying tonight and the Dark One getting someone he can easily flip and you could be an asset to him.

by **StorrZerg** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 9:43 pm

bothers me that his claim is different though, being green thing or w/e isntead of the character name i looked up.

i suppose his play sort of makes sense with his claim though.

I think endgame is our biggest chance of scum though.

n1 endgame (first end) dies out of the blue, no reason why, and no claim that it was a vig shot.
n2 no one dies, claims shot on virus. Again no reason. Granted there was a replace and we will never know why the shots happened, but we can read the posts at the time, and it just weird.

If he is real, then you almost have to believe then i was likely shot n1. if endgame is town vig of sorts. (so im fond of this situation obviously)

Also i want this to go into the theory that the mafia, can rotate powers.... shit happened in HP and its annoying. ANd for someone to claim Only 2 powers, of vig and RB (something mafia "had") just seems super sketch to me. Its not a true Joat, and it just feels oddly specific. + with how the shots are used, instead of RB.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:13 pm

StorrZerg wrote:bothers me that his claim is different though, being green thing or w/e isntead of the character name i looked up.

i suppose his play sort of makes sense with his claim though.

I think endgame is our biggest chance of scum though.

n1 endgame (first end) dies out of the blue, no reason why, and no claim that it was a vig shot.
n2 no one dies, claims shot on virus. Again no reason. Granted there was a replace and we will never know why the shots happened, but we can read the posts at the time, and it just weird.

If he is real, then you almost have to believe then i was likely shot n1. if endgame is town vig of sorts. (so im fond of this situation obviously)

Also i want this to go into the theory that the mafia, can rotate powers.... shit happened in HP and its annoying. ANd for someone to claim Only 2 powers, of vig and RB (something mafia "had") just seems super sketch to me. Its not a true Joat, and it just feels oddly specific. + with how the shots are used, instead of RB.

Virus is the safe lynch as Mitch said. One can not argue that. I hate wild cards that can come back and bite Town in the ass.

There is no reason Mtam or Wing can not target End. In fact this whole notion that Wing and Mtam need to say who they target is silly. If End is who he says he can role block one of the two and hope he is lucky.
One can not argue with the logic of why we should lynch him BUT we have no idea of the mindset of Tonka.

I do not want an unkillable virus out there. It is also why I do not still fully trust you. If you are Anti Town and can collect votes while giving night powers AND We would never know who you exchanged with....scary stuff. And yup yup yup.....I know your resume this game.

Not lynching virus would be stupid.

by **StorrZerg** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:26 pm

I think virus has a greater chance of being 3rd party than mafia.
I think endgame has a greater chance of being mafia than virus.

Lynching someone that isn't mafia would be stupid.

by **StorrZerg** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 10:30 pm

@ib ok when mtamb doesn't claim his shot today, and randomly shoots mets you can cry about it tomorrow. im just not going to give a crap.

by **Endgame422** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:32 pm

Storr i also have the best possibility of being useful town in the event you are wrong.
Virus provides town with nothing but risk.
Town actually has advantage this night phase so im not worried about giving scum a free shot.(town has as many as 3 shots tonight.)
I think storr is trying to get me lynched because he is worried i might shoot him.
I have no intention of RBing mtam. If hes reading i doubt he is going to shoot me. Ill give him a shot at hitting scum.

by **StorrZerg** on Fri Jul 24, 2015 11:40 pm

in the event that i am wrong. Interesting way to think. If you are town, you know im wrong, so odd way for you to phrase things.

I don't know who you plan on killing tonight. If you do plan on shooting me, you better be able to put up a good case, before you do. Because "well i cant figure out what character he is" wont cut it.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:32 am

[quote="StorrZerg"]I think virus has a greater chance of being 3rd party than mafia.
I think endgame has a greater chance of being mafia than virus.

So what exactly is the resistance to lynching Virus, who cant be shot and may be mafia AND targeting End??

I can tell you with absolute certainty Mets is Town.

Mtam targeting Mets would not be "random" and is in fact a threat on your part....

Please correct me if I am wrong.

by **Endgame422** on Sat Jul 25, 2015 12:44 am

I dont intend to shoot you. Im thinking you were likely saved N1 and thus town/3rd party. Plus your at the very least you are useful.
I was just noting that you were acting in self defense.
Fpd by IB

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:07 am

StorrZerg wrote:WING WHO ARE YOU SHOOTING

I am not telling you. If tomorrow comes and Mets is dead and I have no excuse then kill me, thats how mafia works. Now stop asking stupid questions.

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:08 am

StorrZerg wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
madmitch wrote:I have no night action, I can only visit someone during the day.

I asked you to visit me yesterday and yet you did not...why???

If all you can do is visit. We could have solved a major question.

probably cuz mafia lol?

name claimed to get pressure off

did that shit in hairy potter.

You told him to claim, remember that

by **WingCmdr Ginkapo** on Sat Jul 25, 2015 3:11 am

IB also didnt claim his actual character name. Sedai is an occupation not a surname. So greenman doesnt surprise me. Clearly mafia have fake claims anyway.

by **StorrZerg** on Sat Jul 25, 2015 8:30 am

yes, Others claimed that rand should have claimed today. or tomorrow with reasons logic.

his claim timing made no sense being a half claim. purely claiming the name as an act to do nothing

by **Metsfanmax** on Sat Jul 25, 2015 9:24 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:WING WHO ARE YOU SHOOTING

I am not telling you. If tomorrow comes and Mets is dead and I have no excuse then kill me, thats how mafia works. Now stop asking stupid questions.

No, the way that mafia works is that you actually try to win. That means using all the information you have to make a best judgment about the situation, not about fucking up and then asking for forgiveness later. There is an excellent reason why IB said that I am town and that is all you need to know.