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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby StorrZerg on Sat Jul 04, 2015 8:43 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:so what changed? Between town reading me yesterday, and scum reading me today?

@ib, because marash is scum.


My opinion changed on you as well.

Are you 100% sure that Marash is mafia?


its a read, i wasn't 100% sure on streaker yesterday.

but the deal is, we have a dead endgame, who the f*ck kills him.
People kill him to 1 dodge medic, but its more than just that. You really have to want to kill him. SO either 1 someone visited him (mafia role cop) and learned what he was

Or someone saw his hint, researched it, and concluded what kind of role he is. aka Marash. While wing has been reading up on bios, i dont think he picks up on that hint, because its really flavor related. Marash "found" the hint, and posted about it within 20 mins of the day post. I don't believe he was on asap the day post was up. Secondly if you are skimming the posts to see whats up with the dead guy, you look at who he pushed, and who he voted, as well as his reads. I don't think that character soft really sticks out hard unless you are really analyzing their posts. He admited to looking at him AFTER the flip.

Then we can go back to his play day 1. He is always "fine" with a streaker lynch, how ever he never adds anything to it or comments directly on points about a case. Secondly with how he pushes on mets. (and fuckj is it hard to find since its light green color)

I don't feel like I need a claim from Storr or mitch D1. Looking at the arguments about Storr, I feel like dd raised some really good points, but I also feel like mets' points were off, somehow. And the vote post - Storr's use of the votes is, I think, responsible. He still has his own vote, which he is using, and at this point all this discussion has him under such strong scrutiny regarding the votes that it would be difficult for him to pull one over on 13 other people. Right now, my big concern is that we've been focusing on Storr too much these past several pages. I might need to re-read the whole exchange from when HS announced he lost his vote. For now, Vote: Mets


Where is the case? Its literally just throwing scum on someone because.
Its just a constant flow on day 1 of, "streaker is ok, but id rather mets"

You want someone that is defending streaker, but doing so to avoid being on the spot light? This is it,he is trying to divert the attention away from him, and create a case on someone that he knows is town, and can't formulate a case because he doesn't know how to do so as scum. I 100% am calling marash on pushing mets, because i was fighting mets, he was expecting me to flip on mets and push him. I had a fight with mets, i called him bad, i called him trash, you name it. But i wasn't calling him scum. Hence i have no case on mets, so what marash has done on day 1, was trying to start a band wagon on someone that had no case. WHen did he start it? After streaker was being pushed.

Also who did he vote for on day 1 that was a joke? Virus, what happened when virus got attention? He unvoted.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sat Jul 04, 2015 11:52 pm

I can agree with your reasoning. There would be several people I would address. we can only do so one at a time.

Vote Marash

I also happen to believe there may be several factions in play. I am not sure what the vote count is. I want to know how many visited you and made a trade. Unless of course you wish to go back on what you agreed upon, which in that case would mean you are a liar.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 4:25 am

The case against Mars is strong, but the comment below made AFTER the night needs consideration.

From my understanding of End's character he should have been a strong asset to town, and Mars would have known that. I dont really understand why anyone would look for the hints after the death.

I was never really sure what Mars' case on Mets was D1. Did he ever write it down?

got tonkaed wrote:I was under the impression End was scum, and to an extent him popping up on storrs list kind of led me to believe I wasn't the only one.


GT - I'm not too bothered by you explaining the comment above, but I do want to know your opinion on the Mars case.

@Storr unvote my vote on Tal. I'm voting him for not being clear with his comments about day actions. Mtam is pushing him for thinking everyone has day actions, which is an assumption that has come from Mine and Virus' pushes on Tal. Tal is stuck between a rock and a hard place as the cases are polar opposites. I'm not being part of lynch (which doesnt seem likely anyway to be honest) which is made of conflicting cases.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby StorrZerg on Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:46 am

Mars never had a case on mets. I quoted when he voted.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:28 am

rishaed wrote:Vote Count:

Marashu (2) - gotTonkaed, Storr, Metz, IB
mtamburini (1) - IB
Talapus (2) - WCmdrG, virus90, Madmitch

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Deadline July 11th.


There you go IB. How it stands since last count. Changes in bold and strikethroughs.

Storr do you know all who visited you yet?
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 8:30 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:
rishaed wrote:Vote Count:

Marashu (4) - gotTonkaed, Storr, Metz, IB
mtamburini (0) - IB
Talapus (2) - WCmdrG, virus90, Madmitch

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Deadline July 11th.



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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby StorrZerg on Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:21 am

Missing one person.

One person visited and did not trade, they have not claimed.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby mtamburini on Sun Jul 05, 2015 9:34 am

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:The case against Mars is strong, but the comment below made AFTER the night needs consideration.

From my understanding of End's character he should have been a strong asset to town, and Mars would have known that. I dont really understand why anyone would look for the hints after the death.

I was never really sure what Mars' case on Mets was D1. Did he ever write it down?

got tonkaed wrote:I was under the impression End was scum, and to an extent him popping up on storrs list kind of led me to believe I wasn't the only one.


GT - I'm not too bothered by you explaining the comment above, but I do want to know your opinion on the Mars case.

@Storr unvote my vote on Tal. I'm voting him for not being clear with his comments about day actions. Mtam is pushing him for thinking everyone has day actions, which is an assumption that has come from Mine and Virus' pushes on Tal. Tal is stuck between a rock and a hard place as the cases are polar opposites. I'm not being part of lynch (which doesnt seem likely anyway to be honest) which is made of conflicting cases.


False, my case is based off his comment about night actions. I don't know how you could have ever been confused on that.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby StorrZerg on Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:19 am

unless i missed someone claiming to visit me in this thread, and did not except the trade.

The person who visited me is mafia.

Why are they mafia? Because
1, they are not one of the ones listed that i said was ok to visit.
2, i lied about what item i gave, thus any normal town would be hell bent on lynching me for lying, or lower chance they see what i did as a town play and they still claim and move on.

So, i believe that mass claiming our day visits will be productive. Doesn't matter what happened, but claiming who we visited, we might be able to catch someone in a lie.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby Marashu on Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:26 am

I'm in favour of mass claiming our day visits. I'll even start. I visited madmitch.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 11:45 am

1.virus90
3.WingcommanderGinkapo visited Storr
4.mtamburini
5.madmitch visited WCG
6.StorrZerg visited Mtam
7.Hotshot53
8.Marashu visited Madmitch
9.GotTonkaed
11.dd515087
12.Metsfanmax
13.Iron Butterfly
14.Talapus
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby Iron Butterfly on Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:02 pm

Marashu wrote:I'm in favour of mass claiming our day visits. I'll even start. I visited madmitch.


And this does what except kill time??

SO Storr lied initialy and has now flipped it back on the person who visited?

The only thing this player is guilty of is not listening to Storr. I do not recall a vote or consensus.

*grin* I did not visit but we may as well call this game "Wheel of Storr" because the game seems to rotate around him.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby got tonkaed on Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:23 pm

visited wing and did not seem to find anything.

Not sure how fruitful this will be as I am guessing not everyone got in actions.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:31 pm

Opinion on the Mars case please GT
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby got tonkaed on Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:40 pm

Well my vote is on it.

I think he is the most likely to be scum, pending something pops up from the mass claim of day actions.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 12:45 pm

Storr you can add my vote Mars push.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby Metsfanmax on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:23 pm

Storr wrote:2, i lied about what item i gave, thus any normal town would be hell bent on lynching me for lying, or lower chance they see what i did as a town play and they still claim and move on.


If you are town, then presumably you believed that lying was a town move. Why couldn't this person have agreed?
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:33 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Storr wrote:2, i lied about what item i gave, thus any normal town would be hell bent on lynching me for lying, or lower chance they see what i did as a town play and they still claim and move on.


If you are town, then presumably you believed that lying was a town move. Why couldn't this person have agreed?


And why is he not calling for me to be lynched when I know full well that he lied? The item he did give out is quite powerful in its own right, so I dont understand why anyone would refuse it. If they visited Storr they must have been prepared to hand their vote over to Storr, so their views on Storr are not relevant. It seems like a scouting move to me.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby dd515087 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:49 pm

Day One:
1.virus90
3.WingcommanderGinkapo
4.mtamburini
5.madmitch
6.StorrZerg
7.Hotshot53
8.Marashu
9.GotTonkaed
11.dd515087 - visited Wings
12.Metsfanmax
13.Iron Butterfly
14.Talapus

Day Two
1.virus90
3.WingcommanderGinkapo visited Storr
4.mtamburini
5.madmitch visited WCG
6.StorrZerg visited Mtam
7.Hotshot53
8.Marashu visited Madmitch
9.GotTonkaed
11.dd515087 - didn't get action in on time
12.Metsfanmax
13.Iron Butterfly
14.Talapus

I got the same null result when visiting Wings D1 as everyone else seems to have got
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby Marashu on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:11 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:And this does what except kill time??

I thought mitch was a character I was hoping to interact with. Then it got revealed that he commuted.

WingCmdr Ginkapo wrote:Storr you can add my vote Mars push.

So that puts me to L-3, yes? I'll claim. I'm Egwene. During the day, I can visit someone. I have no night action (Yes, I know that Rish said everyone gets a night action on p2). Was hoping to get some sort of night action based on player interactions. So far none have worked out. Also, dd didn't have it on the list, but I've said a few times now that I visited Talapus D1.
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby Talapus on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:21 pm

got tonkaed wrote:visited wing and did not seem to find anything.

Not sure how fruitful this will be as I am guessing not everyone got in actions.



GT I too visited wing. was the response that you did not seem to find anything....or was it worded a different way. I ask because if we find we are getting different answers when visiting the same person than this whole line of thought is a joke.
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vote talapus

You lying sack of cunt!
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby virus90 on Sun Jul 05, 2015 2:29 pm

visited wing day 1 talapus day 2, both nothing but thats both already in the previous 36 pages
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby WingCmdr Ginkapo on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:16 pm

Out of curiosity, why am I so popular?
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby StorrZerg on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:24 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
Marashu wrote:I'm in favour of mass claiming our day visits. I'll even start. I visited madmitch.


And this does what except kill time??

SO Storr lied initialy and has now flipped it back on the person who visited?

The only thing this player is guilty of is not listening to Storr. I do not recall a vote or consensus.

*grin* I did not visit but we may as well call this game "Wheel of Storr" because the game seems to rotate around him.


what value does a town gain by visiting me, learning i lied and not talking about it?
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Re: [Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [12/14] D2:Long Tooth Wake

Postby StorrZerg on Sun Jul 05, 2015 3:25 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
Storr wrote:2, i lied about what item i gave, thus any normal town would be hell bent on lynching me for lying, or lower chance they see what i did as a town play and they still claim and move on.


If you are town, then presumably you believed that lying was a town move. Why couldn't this person have agreed?



because they saw me ask to just confirm it. Thus they would have agreed with me and came forward
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