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by **StorrZerg** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:34 pm

Who are you on right now. Whose alignment is known.

by **Endgame422** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 2:47 pm

dazza2008 wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:Dazza who are you on tonight

Who did I target last night or are you asking who I will tonight?

Both preferably.
Also what do you think of the case on streaker?

by **HotShot53** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:14 pm

What does it matter who dazza is on? If he is town, then scum will never kill him with that power... if he is scum, then he still won't be night killed. The only way to see his if his power is true is to hang him, which should only be done if he is scum, in which case the power is probably fake anyway. I guess it's interesting to know out of curiosity of what he'll say, but since there is no way of proving it without killing him it seems kind of pointless lol.

I'm still waiting for streaker's promised long post.....

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 3:19 pm

It's info while we wait on streaker scummy confessions

by **dazza2008** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:33 pm

Last night I chose aage again. I will probably wait till after the lynch to choose who to pick tonight. It seems like that info would help me choose. I can't see scum killing me though cos they know I am telling the truth and won't want to risk revealing one of their own or clearing a townie.

I agree with the case on streaker. I was mostly suspicious of the folk who stayed of the charm lynch to be honest. Streaker and aage are the 2 I suspect most right now.

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 4:49 pm

The question is, do we have a miss lynch

by **dazza2008** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:10 pm

StorrZerg wrote:The question is, do we have a miss lynch

Yesterday you seemed to think not. I know we lynched scum yesterday so that helped but really we are guessing on how many scum we started with.

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 5:13 pm

We didn't have 2 kills last night.

I don't see vote steal either

by **strike wolf** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 6:55 pm

We have no more than 5 scum left unless Storr is lying than there could be five left. If there were more we would already be at endgame. Im kind of thinking there may only be 4 (unless storr is scum) just because I would normally expect scum to be more antsy if they were just a mislynch away from winning. 6 scum + 2 third parties would balance out better than 7 scum and 1 or two survivors. IMO.

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Jul 01, 2015 7:00 pm

lynching dazza could be good for town. since he is unknown, if he is real, he confirms a town/scum.
vs having 2 unknown.

Might be better to lynch him tomorrow, since i feel streaker is scum for sure.

by **Endgame422** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:27 am

Thing is Hotshot,if dazza certainly could be scum.
If hes town,its a better mislynch then anyone else as it confirms someone elses alignment.
Im still with the streaker lynch for today though for sure.
If streaker is scum i would say we could probably take a chance on dazza if we come to the point of just guessing at scum tomorrow or if we end up divided today/tomorrow
Ok some random thoughts here
If we have cult recruiter i would guess aage. Unconfirmed,claimed slughorn,wandless VT.
In the books the only reason slughorn comes to Hogwarts is to "recruit" harry potter into his "club"of high achievers.
Out of the remaining 5 players that are likely scum i would go
HS
Mitch
Got
Dazza
Aage

by **aage** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:08 am

I havent't had internet at home for a good week now, posting this from my phone. I am told by my landlord it will be fixed today, but the guy who should be doing the fixing seems to be late. At this rate I will need to ask for a replacement.

Endgame I think it's fairly clear that there is no cult.

Storr, I think I have most of the town and therefore most of the scum.

I explained why I wasnt on the Xharm lynch yesterday. I will cst my vote on Mitch once I am sure I am able to continue this game with proper internet om a proper bloody keyboard.

by **Epitaph1** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:00 am

VOTE COUNT

Streaker - Storr*, Marashu, Endgame

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline will be imposed soon if the chatter keeps up at this pace.

*Missed Storr's vote in the last VC.

by **got tonkaed** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:22 am

Vote Streaker

In response to the mod talking deadline and the fact that he would seem to be the most likely scum candidate.

Not as interested in doing the dazza lynch as Aage doesnt strike me as super scummy.

by **StorrZerg** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:26 am

Doesn't matter what aage is, dazza role hard confirms him as something. Giving town better chances of hitting scum

by **got tonkaed** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 10:27 am

I agree. It just seems like Streaker's role is more along the lines of a false claim. If we didn't have him to lynch, id be more open to Dazza.

There didn't seem to be a clear third option, unless you wanted to circle back around to all the VT's/me again i guess.

by **Endgame422** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 1:21 pm

show

Sorry been thinking this and epi imposing deadline basically says the same thing.
GOT,streaker today,who tomorrow?
Streaker is as good as dead in my opinion. If anyone else gets the noose today,ill be very suprised.

by **aage** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:20 pm

Internet is finally back

Endgame422 wrote:Thing is Hotshot,if dazza certainly could be scum.
If hes town,its a better mislynch then anyone else as it confirms someone elses alignment.
Im still with the streaker lynch for today though for sure.
If streaker is scum i would say we could probably take a chance on dazza if we come to the point of just guessing at scum tomorrow or if we end up divided today/tomorrow
Ok some random thoughts here
If we have cult recruiter i would guess aage. Unconfirmed,claimed slughorn,wandless VT.
In the books the only reason slughorn comes to Hogwarts is to "recruit" harry potter into his "club"of high achievers.
Out of the remaining 5 players that are likely scum i would go
HS
Mitch
Got
Dazza
Aage

Meh, this might be slightly omgus-y but I don't like this post.
- if I were Horace Slughorn, cult recruiter, why the hell would I claim my own name? Better to claim some student, the books have enough of them. Saying my name doesn't fit the know VT's is wrong. The only known VT is Dobby who was never a student at Hogwarts.
- your reasons for believing I would be the recruiter is my claim flavour. My role's "recruitment" ability is more like a town mason recruiter, flavour-wise, since Slughorn supported the Order rather than the Death Eaters. Might as well suggest Strike is the recruiter since he's a werewolf.

Regarding Streaker. We are assuming that Mtam disarmed him because he thought he was scummy, and said "if Charm is scum, lynch Streaker". That should be the argument of the day. I doubt Mtam would waste what could have been (incidentally, what was) his last disarm spell on someone he told us to lynch anyway.
As for the argument "Charm was scum, ergo Streaker is scum", this argument exists because Streaker favoured a lynch on GT rather than Charm, correct? I believe he reasoned that GT and Charm were both scum, and he would rather lynch the scum that has a wand. I had the same reason for voting Mitch; with Mtam alive, it would've been fairly easy to hang one half of the scum and disarm the other. Now it seems that this is considered a damning argument, and I must protest that because it is not.

I don't see a stronger case on Streaker than on Mitch. Three half assed claims of three different spells, some of them already used, changing his claim every time and saying that he was "lying to protect his friends". I didn't understand why you guys didn't see the bullshit yesterday and I will not understand if you guys refuse to see the bullshit now.
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Vote Madmitch to get rid of the wand-carrying obvious scum first.

by **StorrZerg** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:22 pm

Why did scum try yo hammer him aage?

by **aage** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:23 pm

They didn't try to hammer anyone. They knew the exact vote count because they control the only secret vote in the game.

by **StorrZerg** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:27 pm

aage wrote:They didn't try to hammer anyone. They knew the exact vote count because they control the only secret vote in the game.

It placed mitch at L-1. Why risk killing their own like that then

by **aage** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:29 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
aage wrote:They didn't try to hammer anyone. They knew the exact vote count because they control the only secret vote in the game.

It placed mitch at L-1. Why risk killing their own like that then

Desperate play. Mitch was going to get lynched, that secret vote got him off the chopping block. If the vote had hammered, scum would have lost nothing they wouldn't already have. Since it didn't hammer, Mitch is absolved despite his obvious scumminess.

by **StorrZerg** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:31 pm

Thing is streaker is the one who called it out then....

by **StorrZerg** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:35 pm

Like I don't buy that, why not use it when he was at 3 or 4 votes. Not L-2 to put him at l-1.

Virus unvote was quick, enough to prevent a miss hammer.

by **aage** on Thu Jul 02, 2015 2:48 pm

We seem to differ on whether casting the vote at that exact point was a mistake on the scum's behalf or not.

Technically Epi called it out. It doesn't matter who named it as evidence for Mitch being town, since there was consensus quite quickly. Streaker's "calling it out" doesn't or shouldn't have an impact on town interpretation of the situation. The fact that Virus unvoted right before the secret vote was cast means whoever controlled the secret vote knew about Virus' unvote, otherwise it's just bad logistics, and a secret vote isn't used on a whim. Heck it might have been Virus who cast the vote, but I doubt that to be honest. Virus is town in my book.

If the vote were used to hammer, it was used poorly; it could only have been used to hammer if Mitch was actually at L-1 at the point of it being cast. It was more likely used in the fashion I described it to be - Mitch was going to get lynched, and the secret vote was cast at conveniently the exact moment where it placed him at L-1.

Casting the secret vote when someone is at 3 or 4 votes does nothing. Deliberately using it when someone is at L-2 means something.

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