Matrix 6 MAFIA WINS

by **NoSurvivors** on Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:09 am

Weekend will be slow probably... unfortunately I am busy most of the weekend and have no real time to post here, but I have given my opinions and reads so I am not sure what more I can say.

FP'd by mars.

Mitch is a good lynch option today but ya id like to hear his claim. Pretty crappy move with the quick vote to L1.

by **madmitch** on Sat Jun 27, 2015 4:37 am

yyes it was a quick jump on Dakky .... I just had a gut feeling... If you get rid of me that is fine but you will be down one vanilla townie and that is the truth

by **dazza2008** on Sat Jun 27, 2015 5:19 am

I didn't like the way mitch voted really but it's kind of the way he plays. He is mad

He has claimed now so we need to decide if we believe that or not. Mafia are always going to claim VT so it could be worth just lynching.

I never got a really scummy vibe from anyone. I think it sounds like Dakky is pissed off with dying early. He clearly never got my joke but I don't think that has to make him mafia.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:19 am

New and Improbed Vote cOUnt

Daza= Dakky
Dakky=Dazza, NoS, MadMitch
Epitaph=Mets
MadMitch= Hotshot, Epitaph, Marasu

Guys please make votes in red. Please put unvote if you unvote to vote someone else. It makes it easier for me.

deadline next Wednesday

by **Metsfanmax** on Sat Jun 27, 2015 7:45 am

With three votes on Dakky and Madmith, we are kind of at a standstill. I am going to put Dakky at L-1 so that we force a claim and get some movement in this game.

If someone moves in for the quick lynch, at least we'll know who to look at.

unvote

vote dakky

by **Epitaph1** on Sat Jun 27, 2015 12:11 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:With three votes on Dakky and Madmith, we are kind of at a standstill. I am going to put Dakky at L-1 so that we force a claim and get some movement in this game.

If someone moves in for the quick lynch, at least we'll know who to look at.

unvote

vote dakky

Not likely. Mitch already has his vote on dakky.

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I still think mitch's vote is the scummiest thing we've seen this game. This is the first game that I've played with him but he's in the HP mafia game, so it could be just how he plays idk.

I get a little bit of a flustered town read on dakky. I've never played with him before, so I don't know how he normally plays--but I understand he's new as well.

I agree with Marashu that we still have some quiet folks standing around. Some more opinions on mitch and dakky could be helpful.

by **madmitch** on Sat Jun 27, 2015 9:31 pm

where,s virus ? have not heard from him for a few days. so the count is 4 to 3 for Dakky to hang,if it ties up again and it looks like it,s going no where I will in good faith unvote

by **HotShot53** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:02 am

the way mitch is posting and actually trying to keep the game going gives me a better feeling about him, so I will unvote for now. Not really sure who to vote for at this point though...

by **dazza2008** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 3:05 pm

unvote

My vote was a joke and nothing dakky has done has seemed really scummy to be honest. If I had to lynch anyone right now mitch would be my choice.

by **madmitch** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 4:20 pm

OH give me a break Daz,, After everyone jumps on me for voting Dakky you unvote... That,s pretty scummy in my eyes

by **dakky21** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:05 pm

I'm back from my trip, and from what I read, you did got me to L-2 but then dazza unvoted. That may seem scummy, but also a reasonable thinking. because I assure you I am VT.

On the other hand, Madmitch you did jump on the bandwagon, but from the last reply I somehow feel you are a VT also.

Dazza... looks scummy from the start, because he tries to make him less scum by unvoting me at L-2. That seems contra-productive... but also gives him some space to maneuver and he is still claiming he was joke voting first day...

Hotshot... I think you are town also, unvoting Mad seems like a good thing to do now.

I believe we should have some opinions on Epitah & Mets also.

I read NoS as town.

by **dazza2008** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 5:43 pm

I got you to L-2???????? I have 1 vote pal and i used it joking. Others jumped on the wagon and to me Mitch's vote was the scummiest but Mitch plays that way so I don't know if he is scum. He is probably the best lynch today though as he already claimed VT and he is going to be that or scum. Risking outting something better at this point seems a risk we don't need to take yet.

Vote Madmitch

by **Metsfanmax** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 7:33 pm

I will say that now that we seem to have two VT claims, we should probably stop there and pick one to lynch. Any more claiming on D1 is dangerous. May seem unfair that we have to do this but if madmitch and dakky are both town, they just have to take one for the team.

by **madmitch** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:10 pm

IF need be I will take the hit but until then UNVOTE VOTE DAZ

by **Iron Butterfly** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:18 pm

Daza= Dakky madmitch
Dakky= NoS, mets
MadMitch=Marushu, epi, dazza

Guys please make votes in red. Please put unvote if you unvote to vote someone else. It makes it easier for me.

deadline next Wednesday

by **Marashu** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 8:41 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:I will say that now that we seem to have two VT claims, we should probably stop there and pick one to lynch. Any more claiming on D1 is dangerous. May seem unfair that we have to do this but if madmitch and dakky are both town, they just have to take one for the team.

madmitch wrote:IF need be I will take the hit but until then UNVOTE VOTE DAZ

If we're at the point where we should pick between mitch and dakky, why would mitch go and vote against dakky? I'm confused. If you think you can make a strong enough case for dazza to be the one to lynch, then I'd say I would like to hear it. I agree that the safer play would be to stick between the two VT claims, though. More likely for scum to claim that, and less likely for us to force a PR to claim. Dakky, you're also still on Dazza - any thoughts?

dakky21 wrote:I believe we should have some opinions on Epitah & Mets also.

Right now I'm neutral with Mets. voting you to L-1 seems like a decent way to check for scum, unless dazza, mitch(!!), or NoS is his scumbuddy, in which case it's a really safe gambit and an easy way to get town cred.
I'm neutral leaning scum with Epi. If mitch flips town, then it's worth looking into him for his jump onto the mitchwagon.

by **NoSurvivors** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 9:14 pm

Early on in D1 I had a scum read on epi because of his "hey look everyone Im a noob" play, and I will say I never really got over it. However I dont want another claim on the day and I think mitch is town after this post:

madmitch wrote:IF need be I will take the hit but until then UNVOTE VOTE DAZ

Mitch is always a pickle to figure out but I think his willingness to go and "take one for the team" is somewhat indicative of his alignment (or as good a hint as I can find on mitch...)

IF we pressure one more person, I want it to be epi, however I do not want to risk outing a PR just yet, as the mafia already have (if dakky and mitch are town) a 5/7 shot in hitting a PR (due to there being 2 mafia), I dont want to make it almost 50/50 for them on night 1. I'm keeping my vote where it is.

I am reading:
HS- neutral
Mars- townie
mitch- townie
mets- neutral leaning townie
virus- neutral but wanting to hear more from him
epi- leaning scum on gut mostly
dazza- neutral
dakky- neutral, but more scummy than mitch and therefore my #1 lynch candidate for today.

by **HotShot53** on Sun Jun 28, 2015 11:49 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:Daza= Dakky madmitch
Dakky= NoS, mets
MadMitch= Hotshot, Marushu, epi, dazza

Guys please make votes in red. Please put unvote if you unvote to vote someone else. It makes it easier for me.

deadline next Wednesday

I had unvoted, so my vote shouldn't be on mitch... but just to be safe, I will unvote again.

Between dakky and mitch, I think mitch is more town this game... although I think dakky very well could be town too. Would it be that bad to try once more to find scum rather than voting for someone you think could be town?

by **dakky21** on Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:50 am

I agree with both Marashu & NoS... we shouldn't get another claim day one.
As you said, I will sacrifice for the team if needed.

by **Epitaph1** on Mon Jun 29, 2015 7:47 am

I still find mitch to be more scum than dakky. Tbh, I'm not sure how everyone who gives an opinion on him finds him town. Just because he made a off comment about taking one for the team? Is that the basis or is there something else?

Daz unvoted when dakky was at L-1. That makes him seem the most townie of all those on the dakky wagon. He could very well have left his vote there hoping that someone would careless put another vote on dakky or have someone not believe dakky's claim and quickly hammer.

Also, not in favor of any more claims for reasons already stated. My vote stays.

by **virus90** on Mon Jun 29, 2015 8:09 am

so frustrated internet ate post twice..
so giving the headlines from the previous 2 attempts cause this is taking to long.

between dakyk and mitch im inclined to choose to vote dakky since:
mitch and i dotn match in playstyle, but im not to annoyed at this this game.
dakky overreacted to a jokevote in my opinion, and also called out NOS for bandwoagnoning while in my opinion that wasnt the point at all. And at this point he is still voting dazza, not sure on the reasons why. So thats why my vote would go to dakky.
if we decide to look further, i would look into epi, he jumped on madmitch stating he was sure scum for putting dakky at L1. A bit of a to firm statement in my opinion and could be seen as strongly pushing on a madmitch lynch. So i would like to look in to him.
wether it is smart to look for another claim im not sure. It makes it harder for the powerroles to stay hidden, but if miltiple people feel the same about someone, it is kind of foolish not to pursue that feeling and vote on a VT just to not out a powerrole/keep them hidden. (is it clear what i mean by that?)

as for the others i townread mets and nos at this point, made valid points and observations in my opinion.
mars i have slightly positive feeling but not like the other 2 mentioned.
hotshot is bit quiet/ not saying to much at this point.
dazza i haevnt really catched much of him yet.

hope the internet doesnt eat this 1..

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Jun 29, 2015 10:04 am

Epitaph1 wrote:I still find mitch to be more scum than dakky. Tbh, I'm not sure how everyone who gives an opinion on him finds him town. Just because he made a off comment about taking one for the team? Is that the basis or is there something else?

Daz unvoted when dakky was at L-1. That makes him seem the most townie of all those on the dakky wagon. He could very well have left his vote there hoping that someone would careless put another vote on dakky or have someone not believe dakky's claim and quickly hammer.

Also, not in favor of any more claims for reasons already stated. My vote stays.

Since I think you are scummy, this definitely means I am keeping my vote on dakky.

by **dakky21** on Mon Jun 29, 2015 11:05 am

Metsfanmax wrote:Since I think you are scummy, this definitely means I am keeping my vote on dakky.

This is a contradiction, but OK. Anyway, get me again to L-1 and I'll vote myself. You got 7 pages of clues to reveal who is who. It's better I get lynched than a PR.

by **Metsfanmax** on Mon Jun 29, 2015 12:50 pm

dakky21 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:Since I think you are scummy, this definitely means I am keeping my vote on dakky.

This is a contradiction, but OK.

Not a contradiction -- if I had my way, the push and claim would have been from Epi. But I didn't get what I wanted, so I'm going with you instead.

by **NoSurvivors** on Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:28 pm

So we have 3 people who "want an epi claim"... wouldn't it make sense to get a claim out of him? I am afraid of him being a PR because of this post:

Epitaph1 wrote:Btw, this is my first Matrix 6 game--what's the strategy here? Just play it like normal mafia with pressuring/claiming and such or is there something we should do differently?

This indicates (to me) that he is either a town PR or scum. Gut feeling nothing more, but what raises flags to me is that as a VT he would not ask how to play any particular game.

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