[Official] Wheel of Time:EotW [8/14] D4:Twisted Pattern

[Endgame422]

Even mets whos a phd for gods sake thought you were claiming you missed your action.

Didn't you see the part where rishaed was complaining about the fact that two people didn't even send in their day actions?

Please keep bringing irrelevant information to the game, and stalling on this issue. I'm stalled with mets, no reason for you guys to bicker over this.

Lol. I agree. No reason to bicker.
Whatcha got thats "relevant" storr?
Your case on streaker is meh as far as im concerned but i dont see much else now.
I appreciate mets case on you as coming from a town perspective wether hes right or not.
Virus made the same mistake i did so nothing against him.

[StorrZerg]

So the part about lynch all liars wets your wistle?

[StorrZerg]

Or me steam rolling madmitch, cause I really do enjoy when people are super vague about cases they like

[Endgame422]

I just like that he is distrustful of you honestly.
I know i am.
Your play of screaming IM TOWN repeatedly is certainly strange and your role does not sound town aligned to me.
Im not as invested as mets is and wont even bother voting you storr but i see where he is coming from. You think im going crucify you for steamrolling mitch? No way. i was all for lynching mitch(still wouldnt mind)
And mets hasnt proven you a liar yet.

[Metsfanmax]

At any rate, it's pretty clear that Talapus didn't slip, there was just honest misunderstanding of what was said. So people who have their vote on him now and aren't going to switch have some explaining to do.

[StorrZerg]

I just like that he is distrustful of you honestly.
I know i am.
Your play of screaming IM TOWN repeatedly is certainly strange and your role does not sound town aligned to me.
Im not as invested as mets is and wont even bother voting you storr but i see where he is coming from. You think im going crucify you for steamrolling mitch? No way. i was all for lynching mitch(still wouldnt mind)
And mets hasnt proven you a liar yet.

Why is it strange to claim being confirmed town. Do you have any history other wise that me doing so is a magia tendency of mine?

[Endgame422]

Because the only person your confirmed to is yourself.
Your role is confirmed but your alignment is not.
You are reinforcing that your town as often as possible which i usually take as a tell in general,not specifically off of a meta on you.
Im not pushing to lynch you just unwillingly to trust that your town based off today and your vote trading role.

[StorrZerg]

Because the only person your confirmed to is yourself.
Your role is confirmed but your alignment is not.
You are reinforcing that your town as often as possible which i usually take as a tell in general,not specifically off of a meta on you..

What makes you think that is a Mafia tell. Can you give me a previous game where a mafia was screaming they are town? Do you think I've self confirmed myself as town as town and mafia before? Is so, how does this impact your read

[Endgame422]

I think its a tell because thats exactly what scum does,try and convince everyone they are town. Now theres all kinds of WIFOM arguements here of course but thats how your coming across to me. Like you want us all to believe your town. Which if you are town i dont know why you would have been so forthcoming(bordering on boastful)of how badass your role is.
Why not at least downplay it so maybe scum wont murder you right away and we can get some use from your power?
As far as if youve done it before i am not dedicated enough to reread old games of yours,but my guess is ya you have. And that does nothing to console my concerns that you are possibly fake"selfconfirming".

[StorrZerg]

Does a town have an obligation to convince others they are town?


Now you are willing to go along with that I have self confirmed before as both alignments, so then logically it shouldn't mean anything alignment indicative. Thus why it's puzzling why you are insistent on such a minor thing.

And how little the madmitch vote means to you.
As well as other reads and actions I've made.

[Marashu]

Talapus, did someone visit you, and you guys had a private chat? Or was that someone else or no one

It was me who visited Talapus (I said this before, but nobody seemed to notice). I don't THINK my visit ability is a day RB, so either a) it is, and our visit actions are secret from us, b) there is a day RB who targeted Talapus, c) Talapus' day action is not a visit and can be interrupted by a visit, or d) Talapus really didn't get the action in on time. I thought that mtam and Streaker already claimed they were the 2 who didn't send actions in, though, which means one of those three is lying.

[rishaed]

Vote Count:

WCmdrG (1) - mtamburini
Storr (1) - Mets
Endgame (2) - hotshot53, Talapus
Mets (1) - Marashu
madmitch (1) - Streaker
Talapus (2) - WCmdrG, virus90
Streaker (3) - Storr, dd515, IB
virus90 (1) - madmitch

With 14 alive it takes 8 to lynch.
Deadline 28.6.15

[Metsfanmax]

rish, can you confirm that you'll do a plurality lynch if we reach the deadline?

[madmitch]

@ Talapus you said you had a nice little chat ,maybe your visit vwas different than mine, no chat ,just quick q& a trade yes or no ,it took me alittle longer to post answer because I checked with catergary roles to get more info on the trade offered. TO all concerned I posted to Rishaed to find out if I accepted STORRS kind offer keeping my vote would I lose the deal?

[madmitch]

thanks Rish. trade made no going back so Storr the vote is all yours

[StorrZerg]

Madmitch here is what is going on.

I still have your vote, and here is what I'm doing with it.
I am using it to vote on behalf of you.
as in, when you say "I want to vote x person" I will move your vote to that person.


You said I could do what I want with your vote , so this is what I want to do. Use it to reflect who you want to lynch. So if you don't want lynch anyone say no lynch, if you don't like mets or hotshot vote them. I want you to help with voicing an opinion on who to lynch today

[Talapus]

Talapus, did someone visit you, and you guys had a private chat? Or was that someone else or no one

It was me who visited Talapus (I said this before, but nobody seemed to notice). I don't THINK my visit ability is a day RB, so either a) it is, and our visit actions are secret from us, b) there is a day RB who targeted Talapus, c) Talapus' day action is not a visit and can be interrupted by a visit, or d) Talapus really didn't get the action in on time. I thought that mtam and Streaker already claimed they were the 2 who didn't send actions in, though, which means one of those three is lying.

I think it is because the person I would have visited was not there. I assume vsiting someone else. As I said I got my action in late so really have no idea why I didn't get to visit someone. But it wasn't really confirmed either way so pretty useless there.

[StorrZerg]

i visited someone, and i still traded. interesting its possible the person you visited cannot be "visited" i guess

The person i visited, nothing happened when i went to them. its possible who you visited nothing does happen when you go to them

[madmitch]

Thanks Storr , Just leave it where it is for now, do not want to be accused of bandwagoning lol

[StorrZerg]

no problem, just let me know when you want to move it. be sure to help find some scum today, maybe give input on the streaker case and the end case.

maybe talk about mtamb who knows

[HotShot53]

Since the day is getting closer to the end, and we still haven't even gotten a single claim out... storr, please move my vote to streaker, he has been the second most suspect of mine today and is more likely to get to L-2 than endgame at this point.

Talpus, did you get a "nothing happened" like storr, or a "player x wasn't at home" kind of message? I guess like Mars' sitting down and chatting message that didn't actually do anything, many day visits don't seem to do anything. (To be honest, I also ready your first post as that you couldn't visit anyone, which I thought was strange since everyone else seemed to be able to... lol)

[StorrZerg]

Will do tonight hotshot

@mets I wiggled out! Who would've guessed madmitch didn't understand!

[Metsfanmax]

@mets I wiggled out! Who would've guessed madmitch didn't understand!

...madmitch did understand. What happened now was not a lightbulb going on in his head, but rather he just gave up arguing with you about it and caved. Because playing mafia well is like being a child: just yell and scream enough about what you want, and you will get your way eventually.

[Endgame422]

Who did you try to visit tal?
Because if everyone can visit someone noone will ever be "home" to be visited so i dont think that explains how it works.
And if someone is unvisitable we may as well save the trouble of visiting them tomorrow.

[StorrZerg]

No need to talk about day visits today lol.