[Official] HP Mafia - MVP: Aage - Archive

[*Pixar*]

lol, trying to find a replacement is scummy? Don't you think if I was mafia I'd want to stay in this stupid game? Honestly I protected storr at random because a third party died last night no? I highly doubt dazza is scum, he just knows I've been skimming and said this is how I usually play, but this 24 player game is nonsense and can't keep track of 17 guys at this point.

[StorrZerg]

Pixar, just play out your death. No one is going to replace knowing they die tomorrow lol.

[madmitch]

everyone saying I am mason,the only masons I know are the ones that visited Harry,s house and Dobby bless him dropped pudding on Mrs Mason'.... I do have a wand but don,t like using it, and I have some Felix Felicis that was given to me by HARRY so that is why I have been lucky so far maybe that,s why my girl is still alive.I have not made a choice yet on who is scummy because I have not been that clear headed because of what being happening

[StorrZerg]

I envy you. Being able to flavor post so much

[sempaispellcheck]

I envy you. Being able to flavor post so much

I think the only reason he's gotten away with it for so long is that there's no substance underneath the flavor, so we've just been ignoring him.
With you, we thought you were trying to be helpful, but we couldn't understand you.
I could be wrong, but that's my sense of it.

sempai

[got tonkaed]

It also doesnt hurt mitch that he is Ron who isn't going to get bothered much by the town.

[StorrZerg]

It also doesnt hurt mitch that he is Ron who isn't going to get bothered much by the town.

This.

I think we should explore the notes more. It's possible the person mentioned in the note had an interaction with the recipient.

vote virus90

[got tonkaed]

I'm ok with a virus vote. Storr's idea makes sense, and I can't really say I feel like Virus has done enough to make me wary of a flip against him at this point.

Vote Virus90

[Talapus]

I'm ok with a virus vote. Storr's idea makes sense, and I can't really say I feel like Virus has done enough to make me wary of a flip against him at this point.

Vote Virus90

If this gets pushed to a lynch and virus turns up scum than Streaker will have a hard time explaining things come game day tomorrow. There has to be a reason the notes are sent and name people but so far I have yet to see a claimed night action against someone that would explain it.

[Talapus]

Also would you care pointing these things that I say out instead of just being super vague?

I'm now on a computer so will look back and point the things out, just let me look through to find them. Like I said though, not necessarily scummy just rubbing me the wrong way.

[Epitaph1]

VOTE COUNT

Endgame - sempai, dd
Talapus - Streaker
virus - Storr, tonka

With 17 alive, it takes 9 to lynch.

[dd515087]

I believe that puts Rage at L-1. Off the top of my head: virus, charm, talapus, endgame, madmitch, pixar either need to be pressured or talk more tomorrow and if any of them provide the hammer I will find it extraordinarily scummy

I want a motivation for this list. Talapus shouldn't have been in it, imo.

Virus - inactive, I'm pretty sure he posted once on D3. If he came in just to hammer Ragian I would find that scummy.
Charm - pretty much the same deal as virus. She is a little bit more active, but she seems to be dodging any questions anyone asks.
Talapus - Most of his posts are just bullshit "Hey look I'm active" posts IMO and I don't recall him making a case on anyone this game.
Endgame - do I really have to elaborate more on why he is scum?
Madmitch - pretty inactive, makes a strong name claim, but still does nothing to help town and has pretty much faded into the background
Pixar - He saved STORR last night for christ's sake. STORR!! A claimed 3rd party over a pretty much confirmed townie spy in degaston...

Why don't you think Talapus should be on it? Is he your scum buddy?

No, I wanted a specific answer about Talapus because I think you're not paying attention. And it's what I thought. These are the wrong reasons.

Out of the list you made, Talapus stands out because I don't think of him as a scumariner. He had been active throughout day 3, taken a very serious stance by the end of the day on lynching Dumbledore. Because he didn't want to lynch the claimed Dumbledore. That is why it would be scummy for him to hammer Ragian.
Active, but I don't think any of his post are much more than filler BS to make himself look active (are you paying attention? 2nd time I've said this) and he didn't want to lynch the person who used the Cruciatus curse the night before... Yeah that is completely idiotic. That's why I put him on my list originally IIRC.

The argument against Pixar is really bad. First of all, it's new information; during N2 he protected Mtam. When you made this list, that was the latest info. Pixar protecting Storr is weird, yes, but irrelevant to your list. Besides, do you seriously think Pixar is mafia?
Responded to this already. And no I don't, but if he had jumped in and hammered Rage I'd find it scummy.

You call out the other people on inactivity as a reason why they can't hammer... If you hadn't voted and one of them had put in their vote, would that not have been scummy? You put in the L-1 vote yourself. Why shouldn't you be scummy? You haven't been very active yourself.
I literally posted that list in case I died that was who I was very unsure about. I also only said I would find it scummy, I never tried to push those reads on anyone else. You guys are looking way to into this list. Also I have been quite active since I came back D1 especially in D3 and so far today. And you asked if I was paying attention?

Answers in blue.

Id say im for dazza leading a case today but i expect it would be against me since ive been pushing pix and he doesnt much like that.

Explain this part please. You want to follow daza on a case today?

I think he just wants to follow dazza on a new bandwagon. It's not like he was ever going to push someone himself.

[sempaispellcheck]

Exploring the notes would be a good idea, but nothing Streaker said D3 gives me any confidence that virus will be able to tell us anything.
If you guys still want to go for it, by all means do so, but I wouldn't be surprised if nothing comes of it.

sempai

[Talapus]

and he didn't want to lynch the person who used the Cruciatus curse the night before... Yeah that is completely idiotic. That's why I put him on my list originally IIRC.[/color]

This is a perfect example of stuff you say that rubs me the wrong way. I never once said this. In fact I said I had no problem voting Rag. I was waiting on mt who you clearly could care less about waiting for and I got in a huge discussion with Streaker about waiting to see if someone else would claim or if there was a night mechanic in play we weren't aware of. So don't completely stretch the truth when it is no where near accurate.

Your vote one Semp day one was like this too and it really bugged me. It isn't every post, it isn't every day but yes saying crap like this is exactly what I'm talking about.

[Talapus]

[quote="dd515087"]
Responded to this already. And no I don't, but if he had jumped in and hammered Rage I'd find it scummy.

Jumping in and hammering scum is scummy? Oh wait, you were the rockstar who jumped in after being absent for some time and completely closed our safety window by putting him L-1 and then saying whoever else voted might be scum. We had an entire discussion that day about another possible vote floating out there and it could have worked where your vote lynched him and he actually was Dumbledore as no one else claimed or countered.

I still don't get a blatant scum vibe from you but yes there are definite things here you say that bug the crap out of me and I'm sure I say things that bug you. But this is really a non argument because regardless of how you back it up, it looks bad.

[dazza2008]

Dazza i dont think your retarded im thinking pix is trying to act dumb so we dont lynch him(see strikes too dumb to be scum comment)
You being so willing to die for him kinda validates this thinking that pix is important scum.
Although i suppose hes now been poisoned so i can wait until tomorrow.
If pixar survives the night(again) ill be putting everything into lynching him tomorrow.
Or if dazza shows up as scum that would be enough for me to lynch pix for sure.
FPd by storr

Or I could think he is powerful town. If I played to tie myself to 2 scum buddies I would be retarded. You might not be cuntish enough to call it that by we'd all know it's true. I can see this case if me or Pix were known scum but you are trying to tie us to Rage's play. He was scum. This is a major part of me trusting Pix. In our clan games Rage often defends a townie as scum.

[Talapus]

everyone saying I am mason,the only masons I know are the ones that visited Harry,s house and Dobby bless him dropped pudding on Mrs Mason'.... I do have a wand but don,t like using it, and I have some Felix Felicis that was given to me by HARRY so that is why I have been lucky so far maybe that,s why my girl is still alive.I have not made a choice yet on who is scummy because I have not been that clear headed because of what being happening

This post is confusing...why would you go ahead and say you have Felix Felicis? Mtam is no where to be seen so he can't back it up but stating it makes it sound like you know you were targeted but whatever action was cast your way and it missed because of the serum. I don't understand the point of quite honestly taunting mafia. Nothing personal, although Ron was a main character he certainly wasn't one with awesome abilities. Quite honestly if you are Ron and are casting crap to help us all you are probably casting it wrong and doing more damage than good because Ron never really had the best luck. In the books the spell lasted what, like 24 hours max? That sounds like a game day to me.

[StorrZerg]

Honestly the push on virus regarding the note is purely role fishing. It's just a nice thing to know with a scum push

[dd515087]

and he didn't want to lynch the person who used the Cruciatus curse the night before... Yeah that is completely idiotic. That's why I put him on my list originally IIRC.[/color]

This is a perfect example of stuff you say that rubs me the wrong way. I never once said this. In fact I said I had no problem voting Rag. I was waiting on mt who you clearly could care less about waiting for and I got in a huge discussion with Streaker about waiting to see if someone else would claim or if there was a night mechanic in play we weren't aware of. So don't completely stretch the truth when it is no where near accurate.

Your vote one Semp day one was like this too and it really bugged me. It isn't every post, it isn't every day but yes saying crap like this is exactly what I'm talking about.

aage said that you said this, I believed him. And yeah I don't give a shit about waiting for someone who has barely done anything useful.

I didn't vote Semp D1...

Responded to this already. And no I don't, but if he had jumped in and hammered Rage I'd find it scummy.

Jumping in and hammering scum is scummy? Oh wait, you were the rockstar who jumped in after being absent for some time and completely closed our safety window by putting him L-1 and then saying whoever else voted might be scum. We had an entire discussion that day about another possible vote floating out there and it could have worked where your vote lynched him and he actually was Dumbledore as no one else claimed or countered.

I still don't get a blatant scum vibe from you but yes there are definite things here you say that bug the crap out of me and I'm sure I say things that bug you. But this is really a non argument because regardless of how you back it up, it looks bad.

If you're inactive and/or not helping town? Yes hammering is scummy.

I was active all of D3. One of the most. The only day I wasn't really active was D1. ALSO I had voted Rage earlier but took it off to pressure someone else. Nothing came of it. Nobody else joined me or made a new case on someone else so I replaced my vote.

[virus90]

felix felicoious or something like that in the book was a potion harry got from slughorn in the 5th book for brewing a perfect potion. he "gave " it to ron. (that was what ron thought) but in fact he didnt give it at all to ron. Ron just thought he used it and became confident of that (for the quiditch match) but that actually was just placebo. since it was only used in the end if im not mistaken.

As for the note, pressure away, but like i said in the last post. i dont have a clue.
as i said then aswell, maybe something happens when i vote for harry potter (mtam? ) thats something i can think of. since the note says: strike at the boy. i wouldnt know how else i can strike at him.
either way i dont really see why i would do that, since i think 1 thing is clear its in no way beneficial to town.

grtz.

fp ed by storr and dd

[dd515087]

@Talapus you were against lynching claimed Dumbledore. Go back like 5 pages.

[StorrZerg]

You post so rarely virus, and your input is weak. Good idea on not voting mtamburini. Yet I wanna see some good scum hunting. Something you lack this game

[dazza2008]

I don't understand the notes but i don't trust them to look for scum. I can't see us being handed a member of the mafia each night so easy. I think we should keep note of them and later in the game if they prove anything we can maybe get more clues from older notes but pressuring someone just based on them being named seems like a pretty shitty plan.

My suspects early on were Hotshot and Endgame. Nothing has changed. I keep trying to re-read but finding getting the time difficult. I tried to read back through what Endgame was saying I don't think what he is saying is mega scummy. Maybe just finds it hard to get why I know Rage and Pix's play styles quite well. We are in the same clan and always have a game going at all times.

But anyway earlier in the game Endgame seemed like he was on any wagon just for a claim. I got the feeling his votes were just for info rather than the person he thought was scummy.

Hotshot I can't really put my finger on why I suspected him but he seemed scummy early. When I re-read I may be able to post something clearer.

I am hating Mitch's posts. I can't tell if he is scummy but the constant flavour only posts in my opinion are f*ck all help to town. Especially to me cos I know nothing of the flavour.

So basically my main suspect today is Endgame. Partly for him trying to lynch the claimed doc but more for his earlier actions.

Fastposted

[Talapus]

@Talapus you were against lynching claimed Dumbledore. Go back like 5 pages.

I'm seriously not even going to have this non argument with you. I said I had no problem throwing my vote on Rag then as day progressed said I'd wait for mt and a possible counterclaim or real Dumbledore which is one reason Streaker and I were arguing. No reason to rehash this garbage. If you can't read it isn't my problem.

[aage]

I would argue that you did oppose the Dumbledore lynch, Talapus. Saying you'll vote "when it's needed" (whenever that is...) but not voting, and providing a lot of reasons not to lynch is opposition in my book.

You are reading that backwards. Storr was suggesting that N1 Mtam could have recruited him (under cult logic) which would have jived with what was posted in the thread. There was never any real conversation that Storr was targeting Mtam as Storr claimed a squib. If Ragian flips as Dumbledore, it would more or less confirm Storr has no wand as for some reason he wasted a check on him N1.

Sorry doing this from phone which is damn hard to quite anything and was actually someone else's I was going to grab. I get the whole storr may be recruited thing which was why in my first post I asked if you would be any more suspicious of mud had he buddies up to storr instead of strike because I would have been.

But to your point there are several posts stating they don't but the Dumbledore claim. Unless some cult is recruiting these town claimed roles I really don't know why someone would think Dumbledore is a fake claim. Like I said if we go through that door then we have to gun for HP next and the thought that both may be fake claims in that case is scary.

Talapus if Dumbledore is not a fake claim, then you should be for a mass name claim yes?

Of course not....there is still too much going on for that. So far only town and third party has been hurt. Maybe if we start knocking off some mafia we can come back to a claim idea in a few game days but that seems like a terrible idea. I also don't like the fact the only way to know is to lunch Dumbledore. The curse should never have been used but if it really is Dumbledore we are seriously hurting ourselves.

Is this really the general concensus of the the game is to lynch the claimed Dumbledore? I mean, after rereading and not being able to come up with a plausible explanation of why that curse would be used by him for good I understand. I will even vote for Rag myself if needed. I was just really hoping the real Dumbledore or believeable explanation would have appeared by now that can explain it all.

Also I'm curious. I know Ron has claimed and I don't want him really to come forward and say as night abilities are not needed to be claimed at this moment. But I would assume that Ron, HP, and Hermione would be masons so could probably talk at night. But for the life of me can't remember a past mafia game with multiple same faction mason groups. Has anyone encountered this before?

I ask because it makes the whole cult is probably among us thing concerning.

Link me a game where cults kill and recruit

That wasn't why I was concerned and talked about it earlier but sure, thanks for the helpful comment.

What kind of a timeframe do we want to give others to chime in before we all hammer the one and only claimed Dumbledore? Because we might as well put on the last few votes if the consesus is blowing that way. That curse is damn hard to explain away and I have no idea how to justify it and haven't heard any other good ideas on how to either so might as well get this day ended.

The highlighted pieces look to me like either subtle opposition to the lynch, or pointless fearmongering which is actually also scummy.