Matrix6 Mafia Game [Game Over - TOWN Wins!]

[Blackmetal676]

Mainly response to NoSurvivor.
There was such a time as just being friendly or polite or giving reason why I would perhaps say 4 of us were prodded as for my understanding of the games rules I have it down fine. Though the forum rules are a new addition and reading others via text (first time online)
The only answer to my low number of responses is I have been sick.
Though I could easily point out others who had also been prodded?
As for jumping on a bandwagon I could have easily voted for Storr. Though voting for either of you would now just be based on a OMGUS moment as you've stated.
However because I'm declaring im choosing not to vote at this time no more than Mad in the beginning suddenly I am scum.
So Id suggest finding a better tree to bark up because time is not on our side.
Unless you were mafia. Then maybe things are going your way.

[HotShot53]

There are 7 town in this game

Scum slip, too easy

VOTE WING

Not thinking from a towny perspective, as town would be thinking about 6 town instead of 7, would also not be going super defensive over a comment to start discussion that I have not begun discussion about as to stop me from actually starting to discuss.

Discussception.

Not quite sure what your point is here... there are 7 total town that need to work together... there are 6 other town, but 7 total, which is what he was referring to... so I don't see this as a scum slip at all.

I actually wanted to write there are 5 other town in this game, but couldnt bring myself to refer to you as town.

But hey nice OMGUS. Clearly there is little point conversing with you as you wont answer the question.

And Storr I am not killing this game, the lack of votes is killing this game. Nobody will speak until pressure is applied. There are only two power roles to protect, so where are the rest of the players?

Another anti town post, as town you should not be concerning yourself with votes but the allignments of players.

As per the OMGUS, you obviously do not know the definition as I was to the first to suspect you and you decided to suspect me right back.

There is actually 6 other town in the game other than you, if you are town... so this one is a mistake, but not one that mtam called him out on. Idk, this is a very weird follow up to the last one, I'm not sure who is more confused with how many town are in the game, mtam or wing.

[HotShot53]

Sincerest apologies for the delay. Mother's Day with my family was amazing though would undoubtedly pull potentially many of us away. Also I had been suffering from a throat infection for 3 weeks. So I've been fairly out of commission. Like how I thought I was playing a trench game for 3 days. (Btw our team is still doing surprisingly well for a 4 pairs team match)

Now to the matter at hand. I wouldn't base a privious game on how some behaved on this one. A lot of new factors are at play. New teams, possibly using a new strategy and well everyone is trying to work as a sort of team at times. Or at least the small teams that have formed. Though we have some contradicting moments to that statement. I think we are taking our time because we don't want to make the wrong choice.

I may eventually cast a vote though I'm just waiting, hoping to see something I have a hunch about. Plus I'm not so hasty to lynch the potentially innocent
Also to answer a previous statement by End. I've played something similar to this years ago. Though it had doctors and jesters wanting to die. So I will admit my understanding is a little dusty.

Since you are new, I will let you know that on forums games, the biggest clues to if someone is scum or not is if they are playing differently or the same as they did when they were town/scum last time. Meta is a big thing here, it can be very useful when trying to figure out who to start a case on.

Placing one vote won't lynch anyone, so in a day 1 with no cases, you should have stated your hunch with whatever support you had for it, and placed your vote.

[mtamburini]

Sincerest apologies for the delay. Mother's Day with my family was amazing though would undoubtedly pull potentially many of us away. Also I had been suffering from a throat infection for 3 weeks. So I've been fairly out of commission. Like how I thought I was playing a trench game for 3 days. (Btw our team is still doing surprisingly well for a 4 pairs team match)

Now to the matter at hand. I wouldn't base a privious game on how some behaved on this one. A lot of new factors are at play. New teams, possibly using a new strategy and well everyone is trying to work as a sort of team at times. Or at least the small teams that have formed. Though we have some contradicting moments to that statement. I think we are taking our time because we don't want to make the wrong choice.

I may eventually cast a vote though I'm just waiting, hoping to see something I have a hunch about. Plus I'm not so hasty to lynch the potentially innocent
Also to answer a previous statement by End. I've played something similar to this years ago. Though it had doctors and jesters wanting to die. So I will admit my understanding is a little dusty.

Since you are new, I will let you know that on forums games, the biggest clues to if someone is scum or not is if they are playing differently or the same as they did when they were town/scum last time. Meta is a big thing here, it can be very useful when trying to figure out who to start a case on.

Placing one vote won't lynch anyone, so in a day 1 with no cases, you should have stated your hunch with whatever support you had for it, and placed your vote.

Ive never used meta before, Kappa

[HotShot53]

Ive never used meta before, Kappa

As wing pointed out, you're not the only one who tries to scum hunt

[Endgame422]

VOTE WING
His whole 7 town thing and explanation about not being willing to count mtam sounded pretty bunk to me.
That puts wing/storr/blackmetal @ L-3
We ought to pressure one of these 3 to claim.
My vote is wing but ill discuss the folks with votes here.
Wing saying he wont discuss with mtam is either scummy and scared of the pressure or just being fearful town.
Storr is playing less aggressive than im used to which is enough for me to wonder D1.
Blackmetal is in the same catergory as mitch for me. Both of their posts dont really say anything that leads anywhere,not giving much for reads, just sorta rambling on about random shit and not really understanding the setup.Either I could go for either BM/MM as a backup lynch just because im unsure about both and not getting much from them.
Streaker has just been throwing out little tidbits. Ill wait and see if his upcoming post translates to much for me.
Leaning town on mtam just cuz hes asking lots of questions,feels like hes at leadt trying to get a grip here.

[Streaker]

There are 7 town in this game

Scum slip, too easy

VOTE WING

Not thinking from a towny perspective, as town would be thinking about 6 town instead of 7, would also not be going super defensive over a comment to start discussion that I have not begun discussion about as to stop me from actually starting to discuss.

Discussception.

Come on Mtamb, you actually really really consider that a scum slip?
Going through your posts, there is actually very little in there to play with. A number of short 1-liners, no actual content to them. It isn't until after you vote, that you bother explaining your actual case.

FoS on endgame for going along the the '7 town' argument. What's next, you guys gonna lynch me if I say 'The Town', and not 'Our town' or 'My town'?

Unvote, vote mtamb

[Endgame422]

My point isnt the "slip" itself but wing responded with

I actually wanted to write there are 5 other town in this game, but couldnt bring myself to refer to you as town.

But hey nice OMGUS. Clearly there is little point conversing with you as you wont answer the question

This just reads to me as mtam pressuring him(whatever the reason) and wing just making excuses.
I could be wrong and have it backwards with mtams push being scummy and wing just being weirdly defensive, but the quoted explanation just seems bunk to me.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

My point isnt the "slip" itself but wing responded with

I actually wanted to write there are 5 other town in this game, but couldnt bring myself to refer to you as town.

But hey nice OMGUS. Clearly there is little point conversing with you as you wont answer the question

This just reads to me as mtam pressuring him(whatever the reason) and wing just making excuses.
I could be wrong and have it backwards with mtams push being scummy and wing just being weirdly defensive, but the quoted explanation just seems bunk to me.

If Mtam is town, then there are 5 other town outside of myself and town. Hence the statement, "5 other town". As Hotshot has already pointed out "7 town in this game" is also correct. So why exactly are you using Mtam's somewhat flawed argument to pressure me?

As for me saying that I wont discuss with Mtam, that is me saying that I have given up trying to have a conversation with him, and will not just continue to push him to only receive one word answers. I can fill these pages very quickly, but it clearly wont produce anything productive so why bother?

Storr feels more like town to me these days, I think he is different when playing with Mtam than in my previous C9 game with him. Unvote

Blackmetal's post stinks. Its the "we" in his little team that really gets me. It's only Mafia that have a little team in this game. Unless he is saying that Storr/Mtam & NoS/Wing are little teams, but even then its a bit of a weak thing to say.

Not much to go on with Streaker, but I feel like he is town, but I'd expect him to be difficult to read. Similiarly, I have no faith that I would ever be able to read Mtam correctly as this is how he plays all games.

I like Hotshot for now, but nothing much to go on.

[Marashu]

Daily Vote Count:
Storr 1 - madmitch
WCG 2 - mtamb, Endgame(L-3)
Blackmetal 2 - Storr, NoS(L-3)
mtamb 1 - Streaker

Deadline is Thursday, May 14.
9 players, 5 votes to lynch.

[mtamburini]

Ive never used meta before, Kappa

As wing pointed out, you're not the only one who tries to scum hunt

This was a joke based on the game we just played, I know that certain metas dont always carry over into new games becuase they can be wrong or changed.

[mtamburini]

My point isnt the "slip" itself but wing responded with

I actually wanted to write there are 5 other town in this game, but couldnt bring myself to refer to you as town.

But hey nice OMGUS. Clearly there is little point conversing with you as you wont answer the question

This just reads to me as mtam pressuring him(whatever the reason) and wing just making excuses.
I could be wrong and have it backwards with mtams push being scummy and wing just being weirdly defensive, but the quoted explanation just seems bunk to me.

If Mtam is town, then there are 5 other town outside of myself and town. Hence the statement, "5 other town". As Hotshot has already pointed out "7 town in this game" is also correct. So why exactly are you using Mtam's somewhat flawed argument to pressure me?

As for me saying that I wont discuss with Mtam, that is me saying that I have given up trying to have a conversation with him, and will not just continue to push him to only receive one word answers. I can fill these pages very quickly, but it clearly wont produce anything productive so why bother?

Storr feels more like town to me these days, I think he is different when playing with Mtam than in my previous C9 game with him. Unvote

Blackmetal's post stinks. Its the "we" in his little team that really gets me. It's only Mafia that have a little team in this game. Unless he is saying that Storr/Mtam & NoS/Wing are little teams, but even then its a bit of a weak thing to say.

Not much to go on with Streaker, but I feel like he is town, but I'd expect him to be difficult to read. Similiarly, I have no faith that I would ever be able to read Mtam correctly as this is how he plays all games.

I like Hotshot for now, but nothing much to go on.

Explain any of your town reads especially streaker

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Explain any of your town reads especially streaker

Its D1, its basically gut feeling, as I said there is very little to go on at the moment from Streaker. He does need to set out his own reads to give us something more to interpret.

Do you have reads that you are willing to share?

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

That last question can be answered by everyone in this game, not just specifically Mtam.

[NoSurvivors]

That last question can be answered by everyone in this game, not just specifically Mtam.

I've given reads, but I disagree with your read on streaker, as I think it's just his style to pop in on occasion and give thoughts. He is being constructive when he does post. I am ok with his play so far.

[mtamburini]

Explain any of your town reads especially streaker

Its D1, its basically gut feeling, as I said there is very little to go on at the moment from Streaker. He does need to set out his own reads to give us something more to interpret.

Do you have reads that you are willing to share?

So you literally flipped a coin for that read, thanks for being useful

[Endgame422]

Roughly 48 hours to our deadline guys.
Mars will this lynch whoever has most votes if we dont get 5 votes?
Or will it go no lynch?
I didnt see it expressly stated either way

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

Explain any of your town reads especially streaker

Its D1, its basically gut feeling, as I said there is very little to go on at the moment from Streaker. He does need to set out his own reads to give us something more to interpret.

Do you have reads that you are willing to share?

So you literally flipped a coin for that read, thanks for being useful

And can you identify a single useful thing you have done in this game? You zoned in on me ever since I suggested that you had a low win percentage with town and havent let go yet. You put up silly arguments against me because of my use of the number 7 instead of 6. You refuse to have a conversation about anything.

None of this makes you scum. It makes you an outright pain to play with, and that is lynchable.

My strongest read is a scum pairing of End and Yourself. This is because End asked for pressure to be added to one of Storr/Wing/Black because they were at 2 votes apiece. He then goes on to highlight me as the sole party to blame for my arguments with Mtam as if nothing Mtam has done is in the slightest bit needlessly disruptive. Then he goes on to suggest that he would be happy to lynch Madmitch, and that possibly Streaker is scummy too.

There are only two players not in his suspicion, Hotshot and Mtam. However, he defends Mtam twice. This is in the same post where he clarifies that there are seven town players. So its very odd to then accuse six players of being scum.

VOTE WING
His whole 7 town thing and explanation about not being willing to count mtam sounded pretty bunk to me.
That puts wing/storr/blackmetal @ L-3
We ought to pressure one of these 3 to claim.
My vote is wing but ill discuss the folks with votes here.
Wing saying he wont discuss with mtam is either scummy and scared of the pressure or just being fearful town.
Storr is playing less aggressive than im used to which is enough for me to wonder D1.
Blackmetal is in the same catergory as mitch for me. Both of their posts dont really say anything that leads anywhere,not giving much for reads, just sorta rambling on about random shit and not really understanding the setup.Either I could go for either BM/MM as a backup lynch just because im unsure about both and not getting much from them.
Streaker has just been throwing out little tidbits. Ill wait and see if his upcoming post translates to much for me.
Leaning town on mtam just cuz hes asking lots of questions,feels like hes at leadt trying to get a grip here.

So there you have it Mtam, I am being useful, but I suspect you didnt want that really. The scum partnership is Mtam and End. Vote Mtam

Blackmetal is not a worthy vote in my view as I cant see who his partner would be. In this game, losing your partner on the first day would be disastrous, and yet no one has bothered to defend him or even distract. This is why I waited 24 hours after the votes on Blackmetal appeared to see if anyone did before posting this.

fp'd by End - I'm not sure but I suspect it the highest number of votes is lynched otherwise there would be no need to vote no lynch.

[StorrZerg]

Wing /black

Black / inactive or newish person.

[StorrZerg]

Black hasn't done anything worth reading as town yet. Hence why would you expect anyone to defend him.

Lack of defending isn't a reason to town read.

[WingCmdr Ginkapo]

The only person who hasnt posted since he made that terrible post is Hotshot. I wanted to wait for Hotshot to post, but Mtam goaded me.

And yes I could be black's partner. I think you will understand why I can discount that one.

fp'd by Storr. If Black is mafia and gets lynched today then its 7/1 going into the first night. If I was Mafia I really wouldnt like those odds. No matter how odd the play of my partner, if there is a genuine threat against them at the very least an attempt to turn the discussion elsewhere would be a necessity.

[HotShot53]

fp'd by End - I'm not sure but I suspect it the highest number of votes is lynched otherwise there would be no need to vote no lynch.

I would suspect if it doesn't say otherwise, deadline without majority = no lynch (it's always put in you can vote no lynch, but I think that's just formality since it almost never actually wins a majority.)

Mod, if no majority at day end, is there a lynch or no-lynch?

[HotShot53]

The only person who hasnt posted since he made that terrible post is Hotshot. I wanted to wait for Hotshot to post, but Mtam goaded me.

And yes I could be black's partner. I think you will understand why I can discount that one.

fp'd by Storr. If Black is mafia and gets lynched today then its 7/1 going into the first night. If I was Mafia I really wouldnt like those odds. No matter how odd the play of my partner, if there is a genuine threat against them at the very least an attempt to turn the discussion elsewhere would be a necessity.

I posted last night, and quoted "that terrible post". I agree it's terrible, but would give him the benefit of the doubt with him being new, and would like to wait for another terrible post to vote for him. Hopefully he joins into the conversations some more soon though, or else he should be lynched for the combination of not participating, and that post.

[StorrZerg]

Wing, only 2 people voted him. You can chin in as well about how bad his post is, but until 3 or more people are vocal against him I wouldn't expect much.

also mafia might have a very good clue if cop or watcher are in the game. If they think not bussing is fine.

Personally I wouldn't defend a scum mate with 2 votes. I'd call the case reasonable, and provoke my scum mate to talking and push someone else. Hell even vote him, then defend him later with the logic, no one defending him, he probably not scum.

I'd rather focus today on actions that can be deemed scummy and finding a good lead than figuring out the pair With 0 information on a connection.

[StorrZerg]

So wing, now that we know hotshot did comment on 5he post, therefor mtamb didn't goad you early. What up with that?