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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby StorrZerg on Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:04 am

mtamburini wrote:I should probably vote soon, gonna read while im at work and post my vote when i get home

Where Dat vote
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:27 am

unvote virus

vote charm


I had my suspicions earlier, and the last two posts about crasp make me even more suspicious: they don't add anything at all to the game, they're just enough fluff to make it appear like charm is with us but without really contributing anything of value. charm usually contributes more meaningful content than this, even on D1.
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby mtamburini on Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:16 am

StorrZerg wrote:
mtamburini wrote:I should probably vote soon, gonna read while im at work and post my vote when i get home

Where Dat vote


I decided to play on DM instead of reading through this, nothing really has swayed me to not still want to lynch hots.

Other people I could be swayed to lynch include you and legion, I think any votes on virus and charm are silly, I think charm is towny and this does not seem like the same virus that was mafia with me last game.

VOTE HOTSHOT
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:20 am

charm wrote:If you all want to come over for some ice cream, I'm serving vanilla today. :lol:

Also voting Zerg for wanting to get straight to business.


This set me off as well.

She appears to be playing to her meta from last game but instead of an employee she has an ice cream stand. I do not like this post because it seems as if she is soft claiming VT, maybe she is maybe she isn't in my eyes it appears she is. Now the problem is this if she is soft claiming then it is a stupid move if she is telling the truth about being a VT. Mafia will work around her in hopes of hitting a better target if there is one.One could argue she may be a Town PR trying to act Town, which is again bad play because all it does is reil Town and fog the issue.

In the end she has offered nothing to the conversation. We need a lynch today to either narrow the field or kill mafia.

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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby mtamburini on Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:25 am

StorrZerg wrote:you are doing something i've done several times as town, i usually dont do it as mafia.

regarding my activity, my posting volume has no relation to my alignment, its impacted by outside influence, and thats all i need to say.


I dont know what the hell this means but if it has anything to do with you being busy IRL I call bullshit cause you can post from your phone which I know you have done before in the past.
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby Metsfanmax on Tue Feb 24, 2015 9:30 am

I have to say that the meta in this game is really getting to me. I wouldn't want to be persecuted because I took 27 minutes to make a post or because I didn't post from my phone when I might have been able to. Let's give people a little privacy pretty please?
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby StorrZerg on Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:57 am

mtamburini wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:you are doing something i've done several times as town, i usually dont do it as mafia.

regarding my activity, my posting volume has no relation to my alignment, its impacted by outside influence, and thats all i need to say.


I dont know what the hell this means but if it has anything to do with you being busy IRL I call bullshit cause you can post from your phone which I know you have done before in the past.


First part is in relation to what ib did. saying he had a scum read on someone, not saying who but giving a little hint. Then baiting for more information. Then he reveled it. That process I find townie.

As for my activity, I see no point talking about rl in this game. just stating a fact that my alignment isn't indicative of my activity, and my current activity has a direct relationship with my rl.
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby charm on Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:30 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:
charm wrote:If you all want to come over for some ice cream, I'm serving vanilla today. :lol:

Also voting Zerg for wanting to get straight to business.


This set me off as well.

She appears to be playing to her meta from last game but instead of an employee she has an ice cream stand. I do not like this post because it seems as if she is soft claiming VT, maybe she is maybe she isn't in my eyes it appears she is. Now the problem is this if she is soft claiming then it is a stupid move if she is telling the truth about being a VT. Mafia will work around her in hopes of hitting a better target if there is one.One could argue she may be a Town PR trying to act Town, which is again bad play because all it does is reil Town and fog the issue.

In the end she has offered nothing to the conversation. We need a lynch today to either narrow the field or kill mafia.

vote charm


Oh, Blah Blah BLAH!
Of course I'm town! 3/4 of us is town. Day 1 is always boring and I always add flavor to every game. You can do all you want to lynch me, but when I turn up town, be prepared when the boys come after you. The possibility of me being VT over power role is 6 out of 7. So your reasoning is just grasping at straws. I did not say anything about serving shakes, so not quite sure where you are drinking my steel moth!

My current reads:
-HotShot53 - no read yet
-Iron Butterfly - possibly mafia
-Storrzerg - leaning possible mafia
-crasp - town, I don't think he would screw up the game for the rest of us if he were mafia. He would have at least told the mod to replace him immediately.
-Metsfanmax - he is just irritating me, but I have no read at this time
-charm - town
-legionnare - no read yet
-Mtamburini - leaning town
-virus90 - probably town
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Feb 24, 2015 1:22 pm

So what in your book makes only two of us "possibly" mafia vs everyone else?

You have folks as probably or leaning Town and no reads on others.

What has been your criteria?
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby mtamburini on Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:48 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
mtamburini wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:you are doing something i've done several times as town, i usually dont do it as mafia.

regarding my activity, my posting volume has no relation to my alignment, its impacted by outside influence, and thats all i need to say.


I dont know what the hell this means but if it has anything to do with you being busy IRL I call bullshit cause you can post from your phone which I know you have done before in the past.


First part is in relation to what ib did. saying he had a scum read on someone, not saying who but giving a little hint. Then baiting for more information. Then he reveled it. That process I find townie.

As for my activity, I see no point talking about rl in this game. just stating a fact that my alignment isn't indicative of my activity, and my current activity has a direct relationship with my rl.


I strongly think it does especially when you do post it has nothign of fucking weight to it
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby mtamburini on Tue Feb 24, 2015 3:49 pm

charm wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
charm wrote:If you all want to come over for some ice cream, I'm serving vanilla today. :lol:

Also voting Zerg for wanting to get straight to business.


This set me off as well.

She appears to be playing to her meta from last game but instead of an employee she has an ice cream stand. I do not like this post because it seems as if she is soft claiming VT, maybe she is maybe she isn't in my eyes it appears she is. Now the problem is this if she is soft claiming then it is a stupid move if she is telling the truth about being a VT. Mafia will work around her in hopes of hitting a better target if there is one.One could argue she may be a Town PR trying to act Town, which is again bad play because all it does is reil Town and fog the issue.

In the end she has offered nothing to the conversation. We need a lynch today to either narrow the field or kill mafia.

vote charm


Oh, Blah Blah BLAH!
Of course I'm town! 3/4 of us is town. Day 1 is always boring and I always add flavor to every game. You can do all you want to lynch me, but when I turn up town, be prepared when the boys come after you. The possibility of me being VT over power role is 6 out of 7. So your reasoning is just grasping at straws. I did not say anything about serving shakes, so not quite sure where you are drinking my steel moth!

My current reads:
-HotShot53 - no read yet
-Iron Butterfly - possibly mafia
-Storrzerg - leaning possible mafia
-crasp - town, I don't think he would screw up the game for the rest of us if he were mafia. He would have at least told the mod to replace him immediately.
-Metsfanmax - he is just irritating me, but I have no read at this time
-charm - town
-legionnare - no read yet
-Mtamburini - leaning town
-virus90 - probably town


Charm baby can I come over for a lick?
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby StorrZerg on Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:26 pm

@tamb stop bitching about my less active posting and just comment on my posts regarding the game. Hell last 2 attacks from you ignored my read on ib.
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby mtamburini on Tue Feb 24, 2015 4:47 pm

StorrZerg wrote:@tamb stop bitching about my less active posting and just comment on my posts regarding the game. Hell last 2 attacks from you ignored my read on ib.


You have 1 read congrats let me throw you a party
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby StorrZerg on Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:14 pm

mtamburini wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:@tamb stop bitching about my less active posting and just comment on my posts regarding the game. Hell last 2 attacks from you ignored my read on ib.


You have 1 read congrats let me throw you a party

There are more... point being your more concerned with superficial information that has nothing to do with the Game.
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby StorrZerg on Tue Feb 24, 2015 5:18 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
mtamburini wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:@tamb stop bitching about my less active posting and just comment on my posts regarding the game. Hell last 2 attacks from you ignored my read on ib.


You have 1 read congrats let me throw you a party

There are more... point being your more concerned with superficial information that has nothing to do with the Game.


Which I find scummy
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Feb 24, 2015 6:39 pm

I suggest we get strike in here to replace Crasp
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby mtamburini on Tue Feb 24, 2015 7:24 pm

StorrZerg wrote:
mtamburini wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:@tamb stop bitching about my less active posting and just comment on my posts regarding the game. Hell last 2 attacks from you ignored my read on ib.


You have 1 read congrats let me throw you a party

There are more... point being your more concerned with superficial information that has nothing to do with the Game.


i find that people withholding information from town is scummy
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby StorrZerg on Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:17 pm

mtamburini wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:
mtamburini wrote:
StorrZerg wrote:@tamb stop bitching about my less active posting and just comment on my posts regarding the game. Hell last 2 attacks from you ignored my read on ib.


You have 1 read congrats let me throw you a party

There are more... point being your more concerned with superficial information that has nothing to do with the Game.


i find that people withholding information from town is scummy


thats ok, your bad too so that explains things. so you town reading charm
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby StorrZerg on Tue Feb 24, 2015 8:23 pm

Unvote
Vote charm


not town reading her.
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby legionnare on Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:03 pm

By my count that's Charm at L-1, what's the thoughts? I'm willing to hammer.
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby StorrZerg on Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:12 pm

no need. let her talk, you can talk.
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby StorrZerg on Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:23 pm

also i only see 3 votes on charm, 5 is needed, no need to go more. mod should update with a vote count soon
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Feb 24, 2015 10:48 pm

StorrZerg wrote:also i only see 3 votes on charm, 5 is needed, no need to go more. mod should update with a vote count soon


The two votes and claim time was established in case of a secrete voter. In this game we know what the set ups are. A sudden hammer would be scummy.

I posed a question to Charm earlier and she has ignored it. Now would be a good time to speak up.

I also find legionnaires eagerness to hammer rather odd considering he did not have much to say one way or the other about charm. Virus and Storr where his top scum reads from his last post. Granted he said Charm was in his top 4.

Question for you legion....why would you vote want to hammer charm without her given a chance to defend AND seeing that the top person on your scum tell list was voting to lynch her as well?
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby Streaker on Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:21 am

b]Vote count[/b]

virus90 (0): Iron Butterfly, Metsfanmax
PCM (0): Charm
Storrzerg (1): virus90, charm
Metsfanmax (0): Hotshot53
Mtamburini (): Storrzerg
Legionnare ():Iron Butterfly, Hotshot53, virus90
Iron Butterfly (0): legionnare
Charm (3): Metsfanmax, Iron Butterfly, Storrzerg
Hotshot53 (1): Mtamburini

Players not voting: legionnare, strike wolf

strike wolf has agreed to replace crasp. The role pm has been sent, I suggest we give the wolf 24 hours to catch up. This would mean deadline extension for 24 hours. Can everyone agree to this?
If you have issues with deadline extension, no extension will be granted but strike wolf will not be modkilled if he didn't vote by then. Obviously.
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Re: Streaker's Third Mafia - Vanilla time! (9/9) D1 start

Postby strike wolf on Wed Feb 25, 2015 1:34 am

Thankfully I was already making this post when getting ready to replace:

So I will skip the joke for now in the name of catching up. Reads more or less coming as I see them, if I feel I have time I will edit the post before submitting. I am also not going to post on anything that happened with the Crasp fight unless I actually feel it is game relevant and not part of that unfortunate part of the game:

1. Mtam-the beginning of this hotshot case is kind of ridiculous. Not so much for the post he picked out for being "Oh so scummy" but also just that he doesn't explain anything. I won't say it's scummy necessarily but I kind of feel like he might be playing his own little game here. Or it could be because h,e as he is known to do, didn't read the opening post...or the game's title "Vanilla time!"

Mtam: him figuring out how I know he is scum.

Or you know it could have been one post where he asks you to back up the reasoning that you did not give about why he was scum.

mtamburini wrote:
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HotShot53 wrote:Exactly... it is stated by the mod what the possibilities are. I didn't ask for any comments from the doc and/or cop, and I wouldn't expect them to comment in any way outing themselves. If I were one... I would purposely post to mislead scum into thinking I was VT. The only reason for a doc/cop to come out is if they are about to be lynched otherwise, or if the cop got results, otherwise I would expect them to pretend to be VT just like everyone else.

What opinion was I suppose to have on anyone at that point? No-one had made a serious post or anything weird, there was nothing to make an opinion based on or "steer town" towards... I just thought this setup was very different than the last few games and will have to be played a lot differently, so I made a comment.


Again another post that gives no information for town except confirming once again that he is not a PR as he did so in the first post I have been reciting back to. He makes the point to say he would purposely mislead scum into thinking he was vt which I think hotshot is not a good enough player to do so which I have said in a recent post. The fact that he comes up with something like this to say leads me to believe he is scum with a stronger player who can understand the lingo that I was presenting and told him to post something like this to try and ATE me.

EDIT*

Cleaned it up not sure why it cmae out like that


Okay see at least this has a little bit of logical flow to it Mtam.

2. Iron Butterfly-some possible light skimming here. May need to reread him.

3. Charm-Alright. I'll bite. What points did you like from Mtam? What did you like from Hotshot? Is the way Zerg is picking on Mtam different from how he normally picks on people? We have lots of vanilla? Do you have any caramel pecan?

4. Metsfanmax-seems normal Mets to me so far but I find him to be one of the ones whose early game meta tends to be similar whether mafia or town. I lean slightly town with him right now but we will see how the game progresses.

5. Hotshot-I never really completely bit into the Mtam case. Not really sure what I think of this post:

HotShot53 wrote:To crasp/IB et al... remember this is a game... no need for personal attacks or profanities... might I recommend to mods for future games that personal attacks that cross the line like that could be reason for a replace/modkill or something? There have been too much of that stuff going on in some games...

unvote my joke vote, even though I think streaker missed it last vote count

As far as my reads so far this game... legionnare's OMGUS vote is even more scummy than his original post (which I didn't really find scummy)... but that OMGUS vote didn't really have much reasoning behind it... so that made me lean to the scum side on him, especially combined with his limited posts.

Mtam has been very active this game... not sure if it's because multiple people said they'd think he was scum if he was inactive again, or if it's just because he actually is town. Obviously his trying to invent a case on me makes me not like him so much lol, so I will stay neutral on him for now.

On the town side, I actually think IB is the most towny so far.

right now that OMGUS by legionnare is the scummiest thing I've seen so far, so I will vote legionnare


FP by mtam... I was out all day and just got home... I gave some reads, happy now? lol


If I had to say though, I don't like that the ones he really gets into, Legionnaire and Mtam, as scum are ones who were involved in his initial case and he brings that up. though the Devil's advocate in me does keep reminding me that Mtam's case on him was the major point of early day 1 and I suppose I can give some recognition to voting one of the people who didn't bite on Mtam's case against him.

Iron Butterfly wrote:
legionnare wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:
legionnare wrote:
legionnare wrote:Now I ask you, why the pushiness? Last game you barely did anything D1, now your looking for an easy target for a lynch? - THAT is something scum would do.

Vote IB


Yo Hotshot, there's the reason, not OMGUS, what's the point in an OMGUS vote it has no traction and won't bring a result?


Up until I voted you and pointed out your piggy back onto Mtam you had posted nothing. Your post in response to my vote on you was a classic OMGUS vote.

Piggy back? I asked the same thing as you at pretty much the same time, how am I piggy-backing. As for OMGUS, you are posting far more aggressively than in any other game I have played with you, why?


Perhaps piggyback is the wrong word. However Your comment reminded me of the kid who offers to hold someones books before a school yard fight.

The genesis of my so called aggression is a culmination of the state of CC mafia. Last game sucked due to people not posting. The whole mafia side bailed or couldn't be bothered. Now this game people say they are to scared to post because people might "take their head off" or get on their case seeming to forget that is the nature of the game. This is a game of debate and reasoned argument but to often lately people play it as a game of hide and seek. Use whatever adjective you wish. Frankly the attitude is really pissing me off. So my apologies if I seem different in attitude...but I am...its called fed up. Over caffeinated as well but that's another story.

Who do you think may be mafia and who do you think Town Legionnare?


Yeah quoting this has little to do with IB being town or mafia, I just liked hearing him say it so =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D> =D>

StorrZerg wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:And I hit the post button when I hit unvote.

I recognize that it is my opinion so I will not expect some to agree with me...or maybe they will.

With that being the case...Storr what is up with the minimal posting this game...you usually take a proactive grab em by the collar approach. This game you voted Mtam and since then have been subdued in your comments. You post enough to safely say you are participating...BUT you are not the Storr I am used to.

You out and out said lets lynch whom I have made this observation on without knowing who or what was said.I simply said I made an observation on someone which bothered me.

you are doing something i've done several times as town, i usually dont do it as mafia.

regarding my activity, my posting volume has no relation to my alignment, its impacted by outside influence, and thats all i need to say.


Storr acknowledging outside influences on CC Mafia activity? Say it isn't so!

If I didn't mention someone it is probably because they left me with absolutely no impression of them.

Overall, I am running out of time (sorry I know this post probably looks pretty disorganized but I need to get up for a while). My scum reads right now aren't really anything revelation worthy. After first read through, Charm would be my top one but I really want to reread Virus (if no one else) before I make a point of coming to an absolute conclusion. IB would probably be my lone town read as of right now.

As far as deadline extension, I wouldn't mind doing a second read through just to make sure I have everything straight but otherwise I am caught up, so I will leave it to the judgment of the mod and others.

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