GenderBread Person

by **Phatscotty** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:54 am

12-13-14 year old kids are being asked to choose their gender in public schools.

Discuss

by / on Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:06 am

My stuffy and old fashioned school discouraged handing out genital-shaped cookies. I think this is a step in the right direction.

by **mrswdk** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:37 am

re OP: does it matter?

by **Phatscotty** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 1:56 am

mrswdk wrote:re OP: does it matter?

Idk DK, does it matter? At least there must be a reason, eh? Certainly this was never taught in a public school to all students before, so it's something brand new. Some might even call it radical. What do you think the reason is for the change in what is taught? ya know who would be perfect to ask that question? Some of the people who said this would never happen. They could tell us much better why they thought/said these kinds of things would have no place in public schools and that it was the parents place to handle such issues.

I already know most do not want to hear from those who said this is exactly what would happen...because they already said it and it was blown off and ignored as ridiculous. I suppose those who just a year ago said this would never happen will now take the blue pill and shrug 'so what?'

by **Metsfanmax** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 2:00 am

Phatscotty wrote:12-13-14 year old kids are being asked to choose their gender in public schools.

Source?

by **mrswdk** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 3:51 am

Phatscotty wrote:
mrswdk wrote:re OP: does it matter?

Idk DK, does it matter? At least there must be a reason, eh?

We must give a reason why someone should be allowed to make their own mind up about how they see themselves as a person?

by **thegreekdog** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:54 am

Intersex?

by **warmonger1981** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:59 am

I think there is a school in Nebraska requesting kids to not say boy or girl. They are supposed to say purple penguin instead. So does gender matter? Does this make children confused on their sex? Can I go and play women's volleyball or go into the showers with them? Does a persons sex matter.

by **BigBallinStalin** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 9:32 am

Phatscotty wrote:
mrswdk wrote:re OP: does it matter?

Idk DK, does it matter? At least there must be a reason, eh? Certainly this was never taught in a public school to all students before, so it's something brand new. Some might even call it radical. What do you think the reason is for the change in what is taught? ya know who would be perfect to ask that question? Some of the people who said this would never happen. They could tell us much better why they thought/said these kinds of things would have no place in public schools and that it was the parents place to handle such issues.

I already know most do not want to hear from those who said this is exactly what would happen...because they already said it and it was blown off and ignored as ridiculous. I suppose those who just a year ago said this would never happen will now take the blue pill and shrug 'so what?'

Shut up. You're a moron.

by **2dimes** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 11:13 am

warmonger1981 wrote: Can I go and play women's volleyball or go into the showers with them?

Please?

by **riskllama** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 12:02 pm

mmm, genderbread!

by **Lootifer** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:00 pm

Seems fine to me Scott, ~13 is about the age you know whats what, sure your hormones are making you make poor decisions, but that's kind of irrelevant here.

Most things "Sex" or biological are decided when we hit puberty, and that is what the Genderbread man is dealing with.

by **thegreekdog** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:09 pm

Even this genderbread person stereotypes. The last item reads "Sexual orientation is who you are physically, spiritually, and emotionally attracted to, based on their sex/gender in relation to your own."

Nevermind the idea that I can be spirtiually or emotionally attracted to a member of the same sex without being considered a "homosexual," which is a discussion in-and-of itself... what happens if someone (Jill) who identifies as a gender feminine and biological sex female is attracted (physically) to someone who identifies as gender masculine and biological sex female? Is Jill a homosexual? Is Jill bisexual? Why does Jill need to have a label based upon the labels of the person she is attracted to.

As far as I'm concerned, do what you want... no need for categories and labels.

by **Lootifer** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:20 pm

Genderbread person is a learning tool. Its efficacy may be terrible (ie it doesn't help kids learn) but that wasn't what Scott is asking I don't think.

99% of learning tools fit your definition of "stereotyping", we simplify stuff to make it easier to digest/learn all the time, we learn algebra before we take on partial differentials right? Same thing applies.

by **thegreekdog** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:22 pm

Lootifer wrote:Genderbread person is a learning tool. Its efficacy may be terrible (ie it doesn't help kids learn) but that wasn't what Scott is asking I don't think.

99% of learning tools fit your definition of "stereotyping", we simplify stuff to make it easier to digest/learn all the time, we learn algebra before we take on partial differentials right? Same thing applies.

Sorry... didn't know you were taking this seriously. This falls into the "entertainment" category for ol' TGD.

by **notyou2** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 5:46 pm

PS what is your issue with this? I don't understand where you are coming from. Are you for this or against this, and why?

by **AndyDufresne** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:21 pm

--Andy

by **notyou2** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:28 pm

Scotty, don't reproduce and you won't have to deal with it.

by **Metsfanmax** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 7:47 pm

notyou2 wrote:PS what is your issue with this? I don't understand where you are coming from. Are you for this or against this, and why?

Traditional gender roles are necessary for society. The woman's job is to stay home, cook and clean, and tend the kids; the man's job is to go out and be the provider for the family. Many of today's societal ills can be traced back to our defiance of these gender roles.

by **notyou2** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:02 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
notyou2 wrote:PS what is your issue with this? I don't understand where you are coming from. Are you for this or against this, and why?

Traditional gender roles are necessary for society. The woman's job is to stay home, cook and clean, and tend the kids; the man's job is to go out and be the provider for the family. Many of today's societal ills can be traced back to our defiance of these gender roles.

Thanks Scott.

Umm, specifically which societal ills can be attributed to this issue?

by **Metsfanmax** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:05 pm

notyou2 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
notyou2 wrote:PS what is your issue with this? I don't understand where you are coming from. Are you for this or against this, and why?

Traditional gender roles are necessary for society. The woman's job is to stay home, cook and clean, and tend the kids; the man's job is to go out and be the provider for the family. Many of today's societal ills can be traced back to our defiance of these gender roles.

Umm, specifically which societal ills can be attributed to this issue?

Decline in marriage, increase in divorce, homosexuality, trans-sexuality, school shootings, the national debt, global warming

by **thegreekdog** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 8:18 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:
notyou2 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
notyou2 wrote:PS what is your issue with this? I don't understand where you are coming from. Are you for this or against this, and why?

Traditional gender roles are necessary for society. The woman's job is to stay home, cook and clean, and tend the kids; the man's job is to go out and be the provider for the family. Many of today's societal ills can be traced back to our defiance of these gender roles.

Umm, specifically which societal ills can be attributed to this issue?

Decline in marriage, increase in divorce, homosexuality, trans-sexuality, school shootings, the national debt, global warming

Obamer.

by **notyou2** on Tue Dec 23, 2014 10:13 pm

thegreekdog wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
notyou2 wrote:
Metsfanmax wrote:
notyou2 wrote:PS what is your issue with this? I don't understand where you are coming from. Are you for this or against this, and why?

Traditional gender roles are necessary for society. The woman's job is to stay home, cook and clean, and tend the kids; the man's job is to go out and be the provider for the family. Many of today's societal ills can be traced back to our defiance of these gender roles.

Umm, specifically which societal ills can be attributed to this issue?

Decline in marriage, increase in divorce, homosexuality, trans-sexuality, school shootings, the national debt, global warming

Obamer.

Lynx plox

by **betiko** on Wed Dec 24, 2014 10:02 am

I kind of like this thing on 4 levels of gender identity.
Like... I ve always wondered how to define a woman that likes shemales or a man that likes transexuals, or a gay guy that falls in love with a heterosexual hermaphrodite. Putting the gay label to all these people isn t right cause none of these are the same case. Thank you genderbreac person. Your point of view is interesting.