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Defining "Real Time"

Postby billval3 on Sat May 26, 2007 10:25 am

I see the term "rt" thrown around a lot, but I'm not sure if anyone's ever defined it. To me, it means that all players make an effort to keep the game going. If you are playing freestyle, however, I'm not sure "rt" means you always have to begin your turn immediately, deploy armies, etc. I think it should be acceptable to wait some things out without causing the game to go on forever.

What do other people think?
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Postby dominationnation on Sat May 26, 2007 10:26 am

rt is a game where all players are on and playing without any major waits. If you have to wait more than 15 min. for someone to start thier turn its not rt
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Postby wicked on Sat May 26, 2007 10:29 am

RT is a game where the intent is to play the game through in one sitting. In seq, that means starting a turn fairly quickly when it's your turn (as if you were sitting around a table playing). Freestyle, however, is a different animal, as players will often hold until others have made their moves before making theirs, but as long as the game is moving forward and not waiting too long, it's a RT.
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Postby wcaclimbing on Sat May 26, 2007 10:30 am

Ya, basically everyone should be in the game room at once, either talking or playing. It is acceptable to wait until after your opponents play to make your move, but could be annoying for the others in the game to have to wait for you.

Basically, as long as the other guys dont have to wait a LONG time, its RT.
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Postby billval3 on Sat May 26, 2007 10:30 am

dominationnation wrote:rt is a game where all players are on and playing without any major waits. If you have to wait more than 15 min. for someone to start thier turn its not rt


I would agree to that. I also think that sometimes people have a legitimate reason to wait. In that case, people should be willing to make some sort of deal (i.e. all come in at once).
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Postby JOHNNYROCKET24 on Sat May 26, 2007 10:41 am

I would suggest not starting a RT freestyle game. most players will wait to go simply to attack and take over a continent. once the next round begins, they can click start turn and collect all the continent bonuses. to prevent this, the only thing you can do is take your turn at a later time so the player doesnt collect all his bonuses. than the game becomes un RT. This happens in almost every freestyle RT that is set up.
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Postby billval3 on Sat May 26, 2007 11:02 am

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I would suggest not starting a RT freestyle game. most players will wait to go simply to attack and take over a continent. once the next round begins, they can click start turn and collect all the continent bonuses. to prevent this, the only thing you can do is take your turn at a later time so the player doesnt collect all his bonuses. than the game becomes un RT. This happens in almost every freestyle RT that is set up.


I don't think that HAS to happen. It's not always to your advantage to come in last. Hopefully, what "rt" avoids is players waiting hours to sneak attack. It's a legitimate strategy in my book, but it definitely slows things down!
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Postby Luke035 on Sat May 26, 2007 11:25 am

I was just in the chat area looking for a RT NON FREESTYLE game, but had no takers. The explanation from one chatter was that people tend to drop out of real time playing when it is a sequential styled game. HE was also looking to play RT, but would only play in freestyle.

Freestyle is on my "ignore" list so to speak, so I guess I am out of luck at getting an RT game...
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Postby sfhbballnut on Sat May 26, 2007 12:12 pm

RT freestyle is intenseit all kinds of fun if you're able to sit there and move quickly, any distraction can mean death, you almost have to be playing with friends though, because like they said above someone may drag out going so other players stop paying atteantion
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Postby wicked on Sat May 26, 2007 12:16 pm

Luke035 wrote:I was just in the chat area looking for a RT NON FREESTYLE game, but had no takers. The explanation from one chatter was that people tend to drop out of real time playing when it is a sequential styled game. HE was also looking to play RT, but would only play in freestyle.

Freestyle is on my "ignore" list so to speak, so I guess I am out of luck at getting an RT game...


Luke, all I play is sequential, and have never had problems finding a game. Better luck next time.
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Postby red bull on Sat May 26, 2007 1:10 pm

wicked wrote:
Luke035 wrote:I was just in the chat area looking for a RT NON FREESTYLE game, but had no takers. The explanation from one chatter was that people tend to drop out of real time playing when it is a sequential styled game. HE was also looking to play RT, but would only play in freestyle.

Freestyle is on my "ignore" list so to speak, so I guess I am out of luck at getting an RT game...


Luke, all I play is sequential, and have never had problems finding a game. Better luck next time.
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Re: Defining "Real Time"

Postby cleveridea on Sat May 26, 2007 5:13 pm

RT hasn't been effectively defined because it is a mythical concept considering the crippling site limitations in place for this functionality.

So I guess it can be defined as whatever the hell you want it to be, and expect violent differences of opinion once you get involved with others who differ from your opinion.
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Postby RobinJ on Sat May 26, 2007 5:31 pm

JOHNNYROCKET24 wrote:I would suggest not starting a RT freestyle game. most players will wait to go simply to attack and take over a continent. once the next round begins, they can click start turn and collect all the continent bonuses. to prevent this, the only thing you can do is take your turn at a later time so the player doesnt collect all his bonuses. than the game becomes un RT. This happens in almost every freestyle RT that is set up.


Personally, I love freestyle rt because the timing requires so much more skill. But I have one more problem to add:
Escalating cards, 2 (or more) players on 5 cards. This once happened me in an rt freestyle. We must have sat for almost an hour before I decided to make a move.

Still, I rarely play freestyle at all now because it is so rarely rt
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Postby billval3 on Sat May 26, 2007 6:21 pm

Escalating cards, 2 (or more) players on 5 cards. This once happened me in an rt freestyle. We must have sat for almost an hour before I decided to make a move.


Yeah, that can be exciting because if you want to go last you've really gotta have some nerve in some cases!
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Postby billval3 on Sat May 26, 2007 6:23 pm

So I guess it can be defined as whatever the hell you want it to be, and expect violent differences of opinion once you get involved with others who differ from your opinion.


Actually, the basic consensus I've gotten from people here is basically how I would have defined it. I asked the question because someone wanted rt and then complained when I wasn't starting my turn right away. To me, there's a difference between keeping the game moving along and foolishly not using timing to your advantage.
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Postby Red-fish on Sat May 26, 2007 9:15 pm

Sorry to seem dumb but very new to this site. How do i find a rt game?
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Postby pancakemix on Sat May 26, 2007 9:16 pm

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Postby hecter on Sat May 26, 2007 9:17 pm

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Postby mazzilliu on Sun May 27, 2007 4:29 am

freestyle rt with unlimited chaining is a lot of fun for me.

but i wish the game programmers added support for such a game, for example adding a new game category "real time" where, say, only 4 minutes is alotted per turn and 20 minutes for a round.

it might put a lot of load on the servers if a lot of people play this way though, because even though i am still new i can imagine the strategy being refined into refreshing a lot.
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Postby billval3 on Sun May 27, 2007 7:28 am

mazzilliu wrote:freestyle rt with unlimited chaining is a lot of fun for me.

but i wish the game programmers added support for such a game, for example adding a new game category "real time" where, say, only 4 minutes is alotted per turn and 20 minutes for a round.

it might put a lot of load on the servers if a lot of people play this way though, because even though i am still new i can imagine the strategy being refined into refreshing a lot.


The problem with your suggestion is that sometimes the game lulls for discussion, to talk out deals, etc. I would play something slightly longer than that, though...maybe 10 minute turns, 20 minute rounds.
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Postby The1exile on Sun May 27, 2007 8:13 am

It's already in the suggestions forum.
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Postby firth4eva on Sun May 27, 2007 8:51 am

i expect an rt to last 0-30mins and not wait for 15mins for someone to take their turn
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Postby Tisha on Sun May 27, 2007 9:19 am

firth4eva wrote:i expect an rt to last 0-30mins and not wait for 15mins for someone to take their turn

i don't think i have ever been in a rt that only lasted 30 minutes.. :?
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Postby hecter on Sun May 27, 2007 9:21 am

Tisha wrote:
firth4eva wrote:i expect an rt to last 0-30mins and not wait for 15mins for someone to take their turn

i don't think i have ever been in a rt that only lasted 30 minutes.. :?

I have… It was freestyle though. Each round was over in like 2 minutes. Crazy fast.
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Postby firth4eva on Sun May 27, 2007 9:22 am

yeah i only play freestyle
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