And the GD continues to DROOOOOP...

[owenshooter]

anyone else notice how the GD has just dropped down, yet again in the forum list?!! years ago, the GD was dropped below the FOUNDRY to increase traffic to the FOUNDRY... the mindset being, "people go to the GD, FIRST, because it is above the FOUNDRY. if we move the FOUNDRY ABOVE GD, people will stop by the FOUNDRY, first... didn't really work out... then we suffered through our pretty FORUM tab being removed from the main header and stuck in the upper right hand corner after the forum goers complained... "don't worry, we will put it back to where it was for all those years. don't worry, it will be moved back." still waiting on that one... so funny that they claim to want to bring life back to the forums, and yet they keep doing boneheaded things like this... i am now just content with the fact that TEAM CC doesn't get it... no poll necessary, the black jesus is certain he is correct... now all we need is a few stickies in this dropping forum that have nothing to do with the GD, to make us feel all that CC love they continue to heap on one of the only active areas of the forum... anyone else feeling like a CC orphan?!-Jésus noir™

[JBlombier]

Making Strategy and Q&A a subforum of GD is a terrible decision. Those were the places that new people were able to find for their (strategic) questions. This change will make that a lot harder, meaning less people will start using the forums.

[Army of GOD]

I don't even know what's going on

[owenshooter]

Making Strategy and Q&A a subforum of GD is a terrible decision. Those were the places that new people were able to find for their (strategic) questions. This change will make that a lot harder, meaning less people will start using the forums.

i agree 100%... that is how i noticed it at first... i was wondering why they were sitting above the GD when i got into the forum... seems like if you were going to do THAT, you would move the GD back to where it originally was, super high on the list!! more people seem to stumble into GD than other forums to ask questions, etc... so, making them sub forums COULD BE a good idea, if they GD were not hovering nearly at the bottom of the page on the list of forums... i just don't get it... maybe team CC thinks all the negative threads in this forum that show up on the landing page for the forums are contributing to the decline... i'd love to hear the reason for this move...

I don't even know what's going on

sadly enough, i don't think team CC does either... i'm sure we'll get a sticky in here soon enough to ask how much better the GD is now that people can't view the negative thread titles when they actually peek into the forum... ha... this is just a boneheaded move... i admitted i was wrong about Global Chat (and love how members use it for advice, games, chit chatting, etc..), but they continue to let the forums and what they are, escape their mental grasp... they just don't seem to get it... sigh...-Jésus noir™

[IcePack]

Owen you're slipping, first thing when I woke up and saw the change I looked for a thread from you here! Took until noon...

[owenshooter]

Owen you're slipping, first thing when I woke up and saw the change I looked for a thread from you here! Took until noon...

it was odd... i had just a few turns and a busy morning... something looked off, but i was too busy to truly notice... then, i sat down to do turns later and my MIND WAS BLOWN!!!!! this site.. sigh...-Jésus noir

[WILLIAMS5232]

i would have guessed the best place for general discussion would have been in the "general" group and not in the "community" group. while things like "clans" and "SOC training" would be in the "community" group and not in the "general" group.

[owenshooter]

i would have guessed the best place for general discussion would have been in the "general" group and not in the "community" group. while things like "clans" and "SOC training" would be in the "community" group and not in the "general" group.

looks like the same ol', "improve traffic to other parts of the forum, by hiding the popular ones", that has always been the mindset around here... they just don't get it.. and the 2 subforums that are here, don't belong way down here either.. the GD should be way up top, where it once was... this backwards mindset on improving traffic through these means is just flawed and has never proven to work on this site...-Jésus noir™

[WILLIAMS5232]

i would have guessed the best place for general discussion would have been in the "general" group and not in the "community" group. while things like "clans" and "SOC training" would be in the "community" group and not in the "general" group.

looks like the same ol', "improve traffic to other parts of the forum, by hiding the popular ones", that has always been the mindset around here... they just don't get it.. and the 2 subforums that are here, don't belong way down here either.. the GD should be way up top, where it once was... this backwards mindset on improving traffic through these means is just flawed and has never proven to work on this site...-Jésus noir™

i doubt anyone just randomly enters a forum. they probably read and enter what they most feel like at the time. most beginners i'm sure would want to enter the general discussion first anyway. because it's general. other people that use the forum already know where they want to go, so i doubt the order really matters to them. i mainly use the "view my posts" link, and rarely enter the board index anyway.

it kind of seems like they don't care about what the regular people say, they are just re-doing the site and going to sit back and prepare for the new hordes to come in and it don't matter to them because they will not have known any different.

[DoomYoshi]

Owen, the problem is worse than you describe. The original order was:
Announcements
General Discussion
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Flame Wars
Off-Topic Topics

Then, they moved the forums around to:
Announcements
General Discussion
Callouts
Flame Wars
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Off-Topic Topics

Then:
Announcements
General Discussion
Callouts
Flame Wars
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Map Foundry
Off-Topic Topics

Then:
Announcements
General Discussion
Tournaments
Callouts
Flame Wars
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Map Foundry
The Water Cooler

Then:
//General\\
Announcements
General Discussion
Tournaments
Callouts
Flame Wars
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Map Foundry
The Water Cooler

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête

Then:
//General\\
Announcements
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -Ongoing Tournaments; -Completed Tournaments
Callouts
Flame Wars
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Map Foundry -Map Ideas; -Final Forge
Funny Farm -Forum Games

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben

Then:
//General\\
Announcements
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned
Callouts
Flame Wars
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Map Foundry -Map Ideas; -Final Forge
Funny Farm -Forum Games

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben

Then:
//General\\
Announcements -Banner Contest
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Map Foundry -Map Ideas; -Final Forge; -Foundry Discussion
Intelleegent Konversation -Forum Games
Flame Wars

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben

Then:
//Forum\\
Forum Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Map Foundry -Map Ideas; -Final Forge; -Foundry Discussion
Intelleegent Konversation -Forum Games
Flame Wars

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben

Then:
//Forum\\
Forum Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports
Map Foundry -Map Ideas; -Final Forge; -Foundry Discussion
Chatter Box -Forum Games; -Mafia Games
Flame Wars

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben

Then:
//Forum\\
Forum Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports
Map Foundry -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Final Forge; -Foundry Discussion
Chatter Box -Forum Games; -Mafia Games
Flame Wars

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben

Then:
//Forum\\
Forum Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Clan; -Clan Challenges
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports
Map Foundry -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Final Forge; -Foundry Discussion
The (Not Yet) Banned -Forum Games; -Mafia Games
Flame Wars

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben

//Forum\\
Forum Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Clan; -Clan Challenges
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports
Map Foundry -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Final Forge; -Foundry Discussion
The (Not Yet) Banned -Forum Games; -Mafia Games
Flame Wars

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben
Club di Conquista

Then:
//Forum\\
Forum Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
Training Grounds -The Society of the Cooks
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Clan; -Clan Challenges
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports
Map Foundry -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Final Forge; -Viewing Gallery; -Not Maps (Mostly)
Much Ado About Nothing -Forum Games; -Mafia Games
Flame Wars

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben
Club di Conquista

Then:
//Forum\\
Community Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Clan; -Clan Challenges
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports
Map Foundry -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Final Forge; -Viewing Gallery; -Not Maps (Mostly)
The Tower of Babble -Forum Games; -Mafia Games
Flame Wars

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben
Club di Conquista

Then:
//Forum\\
Community Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
Training Grounds -The Society of the Cooks; -Class Room #11; -Class Room #12; -Class Room #13; -Class Room #14; -Class Room #15; -Class Room #16; -Class Room #17; -Class Room #18; -Class Room #19; -Class Room #20
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Clan; -Clan Challenges
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports
Map Foundry -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Final Forge; -Viewing Gallery; -Not Maps (Mostly)
Much Ado About Nothing -Forum Games; -Mafia Games
Flame Wars

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben
Club di Conquista

Then:
//Forum\\
Community Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
Training Grounds -The Society of the Cooks; -Class Room #11; -Class Room #12; -Class Room #13; -Class Room #14; -Class Room #15; -Class Room #16; -Class Room #17; -Class Room #18; -Class Room #19; -Class Room #20
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Clan; -Clan Challenges
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports
Map Foundry -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Final Forge; -Viewing Gallery; -Not Maps (Mostly)
Much Ado About Nothing -Forum Games; -Mafia Games

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben
Club di Conquista

Then:
//Forum\\
Community Guidelines

//General\\
Announcements
Training Grounds -The Society of the Cooks
General Discussion -Q&A; -Strategy; -Plugins & Addons
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Clan; -Clan Challenges
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports
Map Foundry -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Final Forge; -Viewing Gallery; -Not Maps (Mostly)
Much Ado About Nothing -Forum Games; -Mafia Games

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben
Club di Conquista

Then:
//Forum\\
Community Guidelines

//Information\\
Announcements
Newsletters -Conquer Club News; -Tournament Newsletter; -Foundry Newsletter
Strategy -Official Guides
Questions & Answers

//General\\
The Society of the Cooks -Class Room #11; -Class Room #12; -Class Room #13; -Class Room #14; -Class Room #15; -Class Room #16; -Class Room #17; -Class Room #18; -Class Room #19; -Class Room #20
Map Foundry -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Final Forge; -Viewing Gallery; -Not Maps (Mostly)
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Tournament Archives
Clans -Create/Join a Competitive Clan; -Active Challenges; -Complete Challengs; -Clan Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Social Usergroup; -Callouts Archives
General Discussion -Plugins & Addons
Turtle Soup -Forum Games; -Mafia Games
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben
Club di Conquista

Then:
//Forum\\
Community Guidelines

//Information\\
Announcements -Affiliated Websites
Newsletters -Conquer Club News; -Tournament Newsletter; -Foundry Newsletter
Strategy -Official Guides
Questions & Answers

//General\\
The Society of the Cooks -Class Room #11; -Class Room #12; -Class Room #13; -Class Room #14; -Class Room #15; -Class Room #16; -Class Room #17; -Class Room #18; -Class Room #19; -Class Room #20
Map Foundry -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Map Ideas/Suggestions; -Final Forge; -Viewing Gallery; -Not Maps (Mostly)
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Tournament Archives
Clans -Create/Join a Competitive Clan; -Active Challenges; -Complete Challengs; -Clan Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Social Usergroup; -Callouts Archives
General Discussion -Plugins & Addons
Turtle Soup -Forum Games; -Mafia Games
Suggestions & Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben
Club di Conquista

Then:
//Forum\\
Community Guidelines

//Information\\
Announcements
Newsletters -Conquer Club News; -Tournament Newsletter; -Foundry Newsletter
Strategy -Official Guides
Questions & Answers

//General\\
The Society of the Cooks -Class Room #11; -Class Room #12; -Class Room #13; -Class Room #14; -Class Room #15; -Class Room #16; -Class Room #17; -Class Room #18; -Class Room #19; -Class Room #20
Map Foundry -Drafting Room: New Projects; -Main Foundry; -Final Forge; -Viewing Gallery; Foundry Tips & Discussions
Tournaments -General Info, Q&A, Discussion; Create/Join A Tournament; -Ongoing; -Completed; -Abandoned -Tournament Archives
Clans -Create/Join a Competitive Clan; -Active Challenges; -Complete Challengs; -Clan Archives
Callouts -Create/Join a Social Usergroup; -Callouts Archives
General Discussion -Plugins & Addons
Turtle Soup -Mafia Games; -Forum Games
Suggestions & Bug Reports -Implemented Suggestions; -Rejected Suggestions; -Closed Bug Reports
Complaints & Abuse Reports -Closed Reports

//International\\
Erobrer Klubben
Clube de Conquista
Erövrarklubben
Club de Conquista
De Veroveraars Club
Club Conquête
Eroberklub
Maailmanvalloittajat
ErobreKlubben
Club di Conquista

Phew, I'm going to bed. This only takes us half-way through the history of the forum. It would be longer if I included all the OT forum names. You can find those changes (and use those changes to get a rough date for these changes by clicking here)

[TeeGee]

It wasn't a Team CC decision, it would have been an admin one. I found out about this the same way you all did.
Owenshooter, I 100% agree that GD would get more traffic if we moved it up the list and I will be suggesting that too (and Yes, i will give you the credit for it)

[TeeGee]

It wasn't a Team CC decision, it would have been an admin one. I found out about this the same way you all did.
Owenshooter, I 100% agree that GD would get more traffic if we moved it up the list and I will be suggesting that too (and Yes, i will give you the credit for it)

I didn't have to ask

The admin team is very efficient

[betiko]

So is it owen or teegee who saved the day? Did teegee give owen all the credits to owen or did he keep a bit for himself?

We ll soon find out!

[TeeGee]

So is it owen or teegee who saved the day? Did teegee give owen all the credits to owen or did he keep a bit for himself?

We ll soon find out!

Its ALL Owen

[IcePack]

Who got rid of the GD?

[BoganGod]

Owen, owen he/she is our man/woman, if he/she can't do it no one can. GO OWEN!!!

[Gilligan]

renamed after all these years

[DoomYoshi]

renamed after all these years

However, the description says (since day 1): "Talk about all things related to Conquer Club"

[owenshooter]

who turned the GD into a sticky at the top of the forum!?!!!-Jésus noir™

[notyou2]

i would have guessed the best place for general discussion would have been in the "general" group and not in the "community" group. while things like "clans" and "SOC training" would be in the "community" group and not in the "general" group.

STOP MAKING SENSE DAMN YOU!!!!!!

[owenshooter]

So is it owen or teegee who saved the day? Did teegee give owen all the credits to owen or did he keep a bit for himself?

We ll soon find out!

Its ALL Owen

That's what SHE said...-Jésus noir™

[sempaispellcheck]

I get the feeling that bigWham is trying absolutely everything, just to see what sticks.
I worry a bit that he's not allowing enough time to assess the benefits/downsides of each new configuration.
It's somewhat interesting to watch, I think.

sempai

[WILLIAMS5232]

I get the feeling that bigWham is trying absolutely everything, just to see what sticks.
I worry a bit that he's not allowing enough time to assess the benefits/downsides of each new configuration.
It's somewhat interesting to watch, I think.

sempai

i learned, while gaining 3 cc credits for a survey, that people with Adult Attention Deficit Disorder, or AADD have trouble making decisions and sticking to them. they suggest medication for adults with that condition. i seriously just took that survey this morning to get my 3 free cc credit tokens.

[Serbia]

For fuck's sake, stop moving the goddamn forums around!

Bollocks.