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ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Jul 15, 2014 11:24 am

I've heard this term thrown around in a bunch of threads and have no idea what the hell it is.

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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby owenshooter on Tue Jul 15, 2014 12:49 pm

the "dice" has problems...-el Jesus negro

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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Metsfanmax on Wed Jul 16, 2014 7:49 pm

The problem with the dice is that they are random*. People don't understand randomness, so they complain about it.

*OK, not really, as has been discussed in another thread. But close enough, I suppose.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby jltile1 on Wed Jul 16, 2014 11:10 pm

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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Army of GOD on Thu Jul 17, 2014 1:16 pm

Metsfanmax wrote:The problem with the dice is that they are random*. People don't understand randomness, so they complain about it.

*OK, not really, as has been discussed in another thread. But close enough, I suppose.


This thread isn't "tell AoG exactly what he thinks".
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby ztodd on Sun Jul 20, 2014 2:21 pm

I think the problem is that the dice seem to be very "streaky". For me at least, I seem to often have a bad-luck streak followed by a good luck streak, or vice-versa. I'm not sure if it's really supposed to happen as often as it seems to happen.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby BigBallinStalin on Sun Jul 20, 2014 7:28 pm

This one/many times the dice didn't go the way I wanted them to; therefore, the dice are problem.

The debate is over.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Jul 20, 2014 11:05 pm

I convinced my dice that there was an AoG problem. It was really weird, since the d10s had a problem with not being a truly Platonic solid. I now only roll 5-dimensional Platonic Solids.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Jul 21, 2014 8:53 am

Had a stack of over 60, attacked a neutral 10 and lost 30 troops doing so. Also spent six rounds attacking a 7 with an 11 stack, a new stack every round, and never won. Opponent deployed 5 and took 7 regions in first turn. Rolled 91v86 and finished 2v11. Lost 18v2. Can claim it's random all you like but that shit doesn't happen on the board.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Jul 21, 2014 9:05 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:Had a stack of over 60, attacked a neutral 10 and lost 30 troops doing so. Also spent six rounds attacking a 7 with an 11 stack, a new stack every round, and never won. Opponent deployed 5 and took 7 regions in first turn. Rolled 91v86 and finished 2v11. Lost 18v2. Can claim it's random all you like but that shit doesn't happen on the board.


So do you not think that that is randomness?
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby iAmCaffeine on Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:05 am

Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Had a stack of over 60, attacked a neutral 10 and lost 30 troops doing so. Also spent six rounds attacking a 7 with an 11 stack, a new stack every round, and never won. Opponent deployed 5 and took 7 regions in first turn. Rolled 91v86 and finished 2v11. Lost 18v2. Can claim it's random all you like but that shit doesn't happen on the board.


So do you not think that that is randomness?


It's not. It's been proven that it's not.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Army of GOD on Mon Jul 21, 2014 10:17 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Had a stack of over 60, attacked a neutral 10 and lost 30 troops doing so. Also spent six rounds attacking a 7 with an 11 stack, a new stack every round, and never won. Opponent deployed 5 and took 7 regions in first turn. Rolled 91v86 and finished 2v11. Lost 18v2. Can claim it's random all you like but that shit doesn't happen on the board.


So do you not think that that is randomness?


It's not. It's been proven that it's not.


Proven? Where/how?
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby BigBallinStalin on Mon Jul 21, 2014 1:26 pm

iAmCaffeine ITT:

iAmCaffeine wrote:The absence of evidence is evidence of existence!
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Gweeedo on Mon Jul 21, 2014 2:09 pm

Players have been complaining about the dice from the beginning...CC has been trying to fix the dice from the beginning or at least claiming to have fixed the dice.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby ztodd on Mon Jul 21, 2014 11:31 pm

Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Had a stack of over 60, attacked a neutral 10 and lost 30 troops doing so. Also spent six rounds attacking a 7 with an 11 stack, a new stack every round, and never won. Opponent deployed 5 and took 7 regions in first turn. Rolled 91v86 and finished 2v11. Lost 18v2. Can claim it's random all you like but that shit doesn't happen on the board.


So do you not think that that is randomness?


It's not. It's been proven that it's not.


Proven? Where/how?

iAmCaffeine just gave pretty solid evidence- assuming it is true- how strong of evidence do you need before you will accept it as proof?
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:36 am

Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Had a stack of over 60, attacked a neutral 10 and lost 30 troops doing so. Also spent six rounds attacking a 7 with an 11 stack, a new stack every round, and never won. Opponent deployed 5 and took 7 regions in first turn. Rolled 91v86 and finished 2v11. Lost 18v2. Can claim it's random all you like but that shit doesn't happen on the board.


So do you not think that that is randomness?


It's not. It's been proven that it's not.


Proven? Where/how?


Well if you cared to look in the forum instead of being some dumb fucking troll you would find your answer.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby jammyjames on Tue Jul 22, 2014 4:55 am

Calm it caff :lol:

Wouldn't want you to rupture something :D
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Jul 22, 2014 7:00 am

jammyjames wrote:Calm it caff :lol:

Wouldn't want you to rupture something :D


You know as well as I do that I'm calm mate. ;)
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:23 am

ztodd wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Had a stack of over 60, attacked a neutral 10 and lost 30 troops doing so. Also spent six rounds attacking a 7 with an 11 stack, a new stack every round, and never won. Opponent deployed 5 and took 7 regions in first turn. Rolled 91v86 and finished 2v11. Lost 18v2. Can claim it's random all you like but that shit doesn't happen on the board.


So do you not think that that is randomness?


It's not. It's been proven that it's not.


Proven? Where/how?

iAmCaffeine just gave pretty solid evidence- assuming it is true- how strong of evidence do you need before you will accept it as proof?


So randomness is that things should occur as they're expected to occur?

iAmCaffeine wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Had a stack of over 60, attacked a neutral 10 and lost 30 troops doing so. Also spent six rounds attacking a 7 with an 11 stack, a new stack every round, and never won. Opponent deployed 5 and took 7 regions in first turn. Rolled 91v86 and finished 2v11. Lost 18v2. Can claim it's random all you like but that shit doesn't happen on the board.


So do you not think that that is randomness?


It's not. It's been proven that it's not.


Proven? Where/how?


Well if you cared to look in the forum instead of being some dumb fucking troll you would find your answer.


I'm sorry for your little butt.

Also, I take it you have no proof then.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Jul 22, 2014 9:50 am

Army of GOD wrote:So randomness is that things should occur as they're expected to occur?


Nobody has said that, and that argument is very old. Keep up.

Army of GOD wrote:I'm sorry for your little butt.

Also, I take it you have no proof then.


It's little but perky.

There is proof in this forum. I don't care enough to find it just to prove to a troll that the dice are not random.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby oVo on Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:08 am

The problem is the dice are cutting me no slack
in a few of my games. Recently lost seventeen
armies killing four armies while managing to
conquer two regions.
SO IT GOES.
No bitching here... it's all part of the game.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Jul 22, 2014 10:12 am

According to ztodd, the fact that you "lost 18v2" is evidence that the dice aren't random. I'm assuming that's because losing 18v2 isn't expected.

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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby iAmCaffeine on Tue Jul 22, 2014 1:04 pm

Army of GOD wrote:According to ztodd, the fact that you "lost 18v2" is evidence that the dice aren't random. I'm assuming that's because losing 18v2 isn't expected.

ITT: iAmCaffiene admits he's an idiot


Hahaha wrong! According to ztodd, there is a "dice problem". Don't confuse yourself in your own troll thread.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Army of GOD on Tue Jul 22, 2014 2:25 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:According to ztodd, the fact that you "lost 18v2" is evidence that the dice aren't random. I'm assuming that's because losing 18v2 isn't expected.

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Hahaha wrong! According to ztodd, there is a "dice problem". Don't confuse yourself in your own troll thread.


If you weren't staring into your own asshole maybe you wouldn't miss what he said.

ztodd wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:
Army of GOD wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Had a stack of over 60, attacked a neutral 10 and lost 30 troops doing so. Also spent six rounds attacking a 7 with an 11 stack, a new stack every round, and never won. Opponent deployed 5 and took 7 regions in first turn. Rolled 91v86 and finished 2v11. Lost 18v2. Can claim it's random all you like but that shit doesn't happen on the board.


So do you not think that that is randomness?


It's not. It's been proven that it's not.


Proven? Where/how?

iAmCaffeine just gave pretty solid evidence- assuming it is true- how strong of evidence do you need before you will accept it as proof?


Nowhere does he use the exact phrase "dice problem" and he more closely agrees with the sentiment that it's not random.
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Re: ITT: convince Army of GOD that there is a "dice problem"

Postby Agent 86 on Tue Jul 22, 2014 5:12 pm

This is most amusing, do carry on :lol:
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