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Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 23, 2007 2:35 pm

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jay_a2j wrote:Those are the "seven deadly sins" which I have never seen in scripture. Those are not the only sins.


So what makes homosexuality any more of a potential sin than heterosexuality?

A lot of "wrongdoing" went on in the OT and God did not intervene. The OT is actually full of these instances. And there , no doubt, has been God intervention in modern times (but quickly brushed aside by a skeptical world) The 4 day war between Israel and Egypt is a great example.


God never intervenes, trust me. Nobody here's a booming voice from the sky "And I am the LORD and you will do as I say"

That's where faith comes in. The Bible proves itself to be God's Word. That outcast was something else! He has made 1000's of predictions that have been fulfilled!


EXACTLY. Since it is your personal belief that God exists, your idea of God is no different than your superego (the part of your mind that keeps you 'in line' with the world). To you it feels as though this is another person / view of you, but it is really just you judging others / yourself.

As for predictions, they happen because the Bible is the most widespread book in the world and people want to make the unfinished predictions come true. An example is the re-foundation of Israel.



1) Heterosexuality is NOT a sin. (in the confines of marriage)

2) Yeah, I'm sure Russia and the USA sat there and said, "Hey! Lets give the Jews their land back so we can fulfill scripture!" :roll:
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Postby mr. incrediball on Wed May 23, 2007 2:58 pm

you guys posts are too long.

here's a tip: try and get the point of your message through in the first paragraph.
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Postby luns101 on Wed May 23, 2007 7:20 pm

Bertros Bertros wrote:I never realised it had this effect on virgins, never seemed like that in stuffy old CofE... We're really missing out if this is what evangelical Christianity is all about, balls to this atheism milarkey, I'm switching sides!


Yes I know i part quoted you and the hypocrisy feels as good as a virgin who saw a recent vision of Jesus...


I expected as much. For all your high sounding rhetoric, you're nothing more than another mocker. They come a dime a dozen here. Good luck to you on judgment day.
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Postby unriggable on Wed May 23, 2007 7:35 pm

luns101 wrote:Good luck to you on judgment day.


...which will never come.
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 23, 2007 8:26 pm

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luns101 wrote:Good luck to you on judgment day.


...which will never come.




Care to make a wager? lol :P
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Postby hecter on Wed May 23, 2007 8:29 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
luns101 wrote:Good luck to you on judgment day.


...which will never come.




Care to make a wager? lol :P

Sure!

If there is a judgment day, then I will go to hell of my own will.

If there isn't, then you can't whine about the Liberals anymore. As we have yet to see a judgment day, STOP WHINING!

Sound good?
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Postby unriggable on Wed May 23, 2007 8:31 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
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luns101 wrote:Good luck to you on judgment day.


...which will never come.




Care to make a wager? lol :P


Do they have money in heaven or is it just communism?

Also there have been unbelievable amounts of estimates for judgement day and yet the earth is still here.
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 23, 2007 9:06 pm

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jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
luns101 wrote:Good luck to you on judgment day.


...which will never come.




Care to make a wager? lol :P

Sure!

If there is a judgment day, then I will go to hell of my own will.

If there isn't, then you can't whine about the Liberals anymore. As we have yet to see a judgment day, STOP WHINING!

Sound good?



Hopefully before you die you'll take back this wager. But as it is...yeah, sounds good.

Oh, and the judgement day luns is referring too is the personal judgement before Christ, I believe. (Correct me if I'm wrong luns) You won't see it in this life.
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Postby hecter on Wed May 23, 2007 9:07 pm

That's fine, just stop whining about the Liberals now!
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 23, 2007 9:24 pm

hecter wrote:That's fine, just stop whining about the Liberals now!



Soon as I lose the wager! :P
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Postby reverend_kyle on Thu May 24, 2007 1:04 am

I volunteer to kill hecter, as long as he haunts me in my dreams and tells me there's no judgment day.
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Postby EvilPurpleMonkey on Thu May 24, 2007 1:07 am

jay_a2j wrote:
hecter wrote:That's fine, just stop whining about the Liberals now!



Soon as I lose the wager! :P
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Postby Bertros Bertros on Thu May 24, 2007 4:08 am

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Bertros Bertros wrote:I never realised it had this effect on virgins, never seemed like that in stuffy old CofE... We're really missing out if this is what evangelical Christianity is all about, balls to this atheism milarkey, I'm switching sides!


Yes I know i part quoted you and the hypocrisy feels as good as a virgin who saw a recent vision of Jesus...


I expected as much. For all your high sounding rhetoric, you're nothing more than another mocker. They come a dime a dozen here. Good luck to you on judgment day.



Oops guess I crossed the line there. If you feel mocked be assured I'm not in the spaghetti monster mocking club, though I do to the large part agree with everything said in respect of invisible pink unicorns and the like I choose not to mock others belief.

However I was not mocking Christianity, which I assume is what you are implying with the comment refering to judgement day, I was mocking your rather lame selection of straight to video, soft-porn/comedy movies held up in support of your paranoid accusations of persecution at the hands of unsympathetic movie industry.

If I have to stand before my maker and be judged on mocking you, I will hold my head up high, the only shame in having done so being it was so pathetically easy.

Now we've both been rude to each other, guess we're even.
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Postby Anarchist on Thu May 24, 2007 4:47 am

unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
luns101 wrote:Good luck to you on judgment day.


...which will never come.




Care to make a wager? lol :P


Do they have money in heaven or is it just communism?

Also there have been unbelievable amounts of estimates for judgement day and yet the earth is still here.


Christians believe its fascist, I would imagine it to be anarchy, however I believe your right it would be based off of socialism. Having no money is the same as all of us having infinite money.

Thats if you believe the world will end, I believe it will be civilisation as we know it.
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Postby unriggable on Thu May 24, 2007 5:41 am

jay_a2j wrote:
hecter wrote:That's fine, just stop whining about the Liberals now!



Soon as I lose the wager! :P


But see it'll never happen, and you'll keep saying it'll happen, so nobody will win.
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Postby unriggable on Thu May 24, 2007 5:49 am

jay_a2j wrote:
hecter wrote:That's fine, just stop whining about the Liberals now!



Soon as I lose the wager! :P


But see it'll never happen, and you'll keep saying it'll happen, so nobody will win.
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Postby MeDeFe on Thu May 24, 2007 8:07 am

Anarchist wrote:Christians believe its fascist, I would imagine it to be anarchy, however I believe your right it would be based off of socialism. Having no money is the same as all of us having infinite money.


Would you care to explain that? Because when I see that statement without any backing at all I sure don't agree with it.
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Postby jay_a2j on Thu May 24, 2007 1:42 pm

unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
hecter wrote:That's fine, just stop whining about the Liberals now!



Soon as I lose the wager! :P


But see it'll never happen, and you'll keep saying it'll happen, so nobody will win.


Judgement Day will occur after you die. It will happen. As far as the End Times, that too will happen. (I think there is some confusion here)
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Postby Guiscard on Thu May 24, 2007 2:47 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
unriggable wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
hecter wrote:That's fine, just stop whining about the Liberals now!



Soon as I lose the wager! :P


But see it'll never happen, and you'll keep saying it'll happen, so nobody will win.


Judgement Day will occur after you die. It will happen. As far as the End Times, that too will happen. (I think there is some confusion here)


Unfortunately, jay, you won't know when you're proven wrong (as you'll be a dead inanimate object) so we won't be able to see the look on your face :D
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Postby The1exile on Thu May 24, 2007 2:53 pm

Just wanted to say that every time I see the title of this thread it makes me want to make my voice drip with sarcasm and say "OMG A FILM WAS SHOWN IN SCHOOL!"
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Postby mr. incrediball on Thu May 24, 2007 2:59 pm

The1exile wrote:Just wanted to say that every time I see the title of this thread it makes me want to make my voice drip with sarcasm and say "OMG A FILM WAS SHOWN IN SCHOOL!"


brokeback mountain is... *searches internet* a 15, you know
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Postby The1exile on Thu May 24, 2007 3:38 pm

mr. incrediball wrote:brokeback mountain is... *searches internet* a 15, you know


Still it's hardly record breaking stuff. I saw Blade when I was 11, IIRC.

By contrast the thread about Bush getting dictatorial powers only has 4 pages. Go figure.
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Postby unriggable on Thu May 24, 2007 3:39 pm

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mr. incrediball wrote:brokeback mountain is... *searches internet* a 15, you know


Still it's hardly record breaking stuff. I saw Blade when I was 11, IIRC.

By contrast the thread about Bush getting dictatorial powers only has 4 pages. Go figure.


It's too awful to be true. Like the holocaust in the 40's.
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Postby Anarchist on Thu May 24, 2007 8:49 pm

unriggable wrote:
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mr. incrediball wrote:brokeback mountain is... *searches internet* a 15, you know


Still it's hardly record breaking stuff. I saw Blade when I was 11, IIRC.

By contrast the thread about Bush getting dictatorial powers only has 4 pages. Go figure.


It's too awful to be true. Like the holocaust in the 40's.


Someones been watching Colbert?

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Postby unriggable on Thu May 24, 2007 9:02 pm

Anarchist wrote:
unriggable wrote:
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mr. incrediball wrote:brokeback mountain is... *searches internet* a 15, you know


Still it's hardly record breaking stuff. I saw Blade when I was 11, IIRC.

By contrast the thread about Bush getting dictatorial powers only has 4 pages. Go figure.


It's too awful to be true. Like the holocaust in the 40's.


Someones been watching Colbert?

:lol:


Yes, but in the late 30's and early 40's many newspapers thought the holocause was so bad it would drive consumers away, so they put such articles as "250,000 dead in germany" on page 8 to not sway away readers.
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