Do lobsters feel pain?

[Aegnor]

with "pain" being defined as the body's response to harmful stimulus, then yes,
lobsters do feel pain. Any animal with a nervous system does.
Imagine not being able do feel pain, but still being mortal. I'm not the only one who thinks that's total suicide, am i?

That makes sense, there has to be some kind of a mechanism which warns us of danger, otherwise when we touched fire, we wouldn't feel any pain and probably die from being lit up. It's hard to believe that even insects have survived so long without a proper warning mechanism.

P.S. Incredi, you suck

[mr. incrediball]

with "pain" being defined as the body's response to harmful stimulus, then yes,
lobsters do feel pain. Any animal with a nervous system does.
Imagine not being able do feel pain, but still being mortal. I'm not the only one who thinks that's total suicide, am i?

That makes sense, there has to be some kind of a mechanism which warns us of danger, otherwise when we touched fire, we wouldn't feel any pain and probably die from being lit up. It's hard to believe that even insects have survived so long without a proper warning mechanism.

this must be the first time i've posted an argument and the first post in reply wasn't flaming me!
(except for Jay, but he was flaming me by his standards...)

[Aegnor]

Fixed.

[mr. incrediball]

Fixed.

[Colossus]

with "pain" being defined as the body's response to harmful stimulus, then yes,
lobsters do feel pain. Any animal with a nervous system does.
Imagine not being able do feel pain, but still being mortal. I'm not the only one who thinks that's total suicide, am i?

There are documented cases of humans who do not feel pain. As children, they are total daredevils and very, very dangerous to themselves.

See this site: scientist who studied kids without pain

another story about the study

[mr. incrediball]

with "pain" being defined as the body's response to harmful stimulus, then yes,
lobsters do feel pain. Any animal with a nervous system does.
Imagine not being able do feel pain, but still being mortal. I'm not the only one who thinks that's total suicide, am i?

There are documented cases of humans who do not feel pain. As children, they are total daredevils and very, very dangerous to themselves.
See this site: scientist who studied kids without pain

another story about the study

exactly...

[Aegnor]

with "pain" being defined as the body's response to harmful stimulus, then yes,
lobsters do feel pain. Any animal with a nervous system does.
Imagine not being able do feel pain, but still being mortal. I'm not the only one who thinks that's total suicide, am i?

There are documented cases of humans who do not feel pain. As children, they are total daredevils and very, very dangerous to themselves.

See this site: scientist who studied kids without pain

another story about the study

Well according to darwinism, they won't live that long to inherit their mutation to future generations.

[Colossus]

born into a society that will not protect them until their reproductive age, you're right, they wouldn't.

[Aegnor]

born into a society that will not protect them until their reproductive age, you're right, they wouldn't.

Alright then we agree that without a proper "warning mechanism" a species cannot previal. What is the lobster's (and many other lesser life forms) "mechanism" if not pain?

[unriggable]

I'm pretty sure almost every animal feels pain, if not then as youngins they can get into crazy shenanigans that would cause them bodily damage BUT they won't know its hurting them since they don't feel it. Through natural selection lobsters with the pain reflex would live.

[Aegnor]

From wikipedia:

The issue of whether or not lobsters experience pain is contested. A Norwegian study released in February 2005 suggested that lobsters were unable to feel pain, while a Scottish study released in the same year concluded that lobsters probably can feel pain.

And more form the same article:

In 2006, British inventor Simon Buckhaven invented the CrustaStun, which electrocutes lobsters with a 110 V electric shock, killing them in about five seconds. This ensures a quicker death for the lobster. Seafood wholesalers in Britain already use a commercial version.


I guess until a talking lobster is found, we will never know for sure.

[Dancing Mustard]

There's something kinda sleazy about the word 'crustastun' don't you think?

PS. Bump

[Aegnor]

And now a question to all lobster munchers out there:

If you knew for a fact that lobsters experience pain, and did suffer through the boiling process, would you still eat them?

[Dancing Mustard]

If you knew for a fact that lobsters experience pain, and did suffer through the boiling process, would you still eat them?

I'd eat more of them, and I'd boil them slower. Then I'd put the videos on youtube to distress these communist vegetarian types.

[Aegnor]

Just for the protocol: I'm not a vegetarian. The reason I don't eat lobsters is because they look like cockroaches that evolved in the sea.

[unriggable]

Just for the protocol: I'm not a vegetarian. The reason I don't eat lobsters is because they look like cockroaches that evolved in the sea.

BTW Wrong class. Cockroaches are insects. Lobsters are Arachnids.

[Aegnor]

Just for the protocol: I'm not a vegetarian. The reason I don't eat lobsters is because they look like cockroaches that evolved in the sea.

BTW Wrong class. Cockroaches are insects. Lobsters are Arachnids.

Even worse! Spiders that evolved under the sea.. Yuck!!

[unriggable]

Just for the protocol: I'm not a vegetarian. The reason I don't eat lobsters is because they look like cockroaches that evolved in the sea.

BTW Wrong class. Cockroaches are insects. Lobsters are Arachnids.

Even worse! Spiders that evolved under the sea.. Yuck!!

No I fucked up. They're crustaceans. I could've sworn they were arachnids...

Anyways, they evolved long before spiders.

[Anarchist]

They scream when you boil them alive, they elpain just like any other living creature, plants dont have mouths...

[Dancing Mustard]

They scream when you boil them alive, they elpain just like any other living creature, plants dont have mouths...

I'm so glad to hear that they're 'elpain'-ing like all the other animals. I would have hated to think they were being left out.

[Stopper]

What is this lobsters screaming business?! I'd never heard this before tonight. Why are people so uncertain as to whether they can suffer pain, but quite sure they can scream? With no vocal cords.

[Backglass]

They scream when you boil them alive, they elpain just like any other living creature, plants dont have mouths...

...and Lobsters don't have lungs.

What about the Japanese slicing tentacles off live Octopusr and eating them seconds afterwards? Don't get me wrong... I love my Sushi. I have eaten some bizzarre stuff, but feeling it squirming in my mouth and attaching it's suckers to the inside of my cheek is a little much for me, even if it is a reflex.

[safariguy5]

Well rattlesnakes have been known to keep trying to bite people after their heads have been cut off. The head can actually still hurt you, and the body will actually "hit" you with the bloody stump where its head used to be.

[Splash]

why are you interested in "lobsters"? they probably feel pain...HOW IN THE WORLD CAN WE TEST TO SEE IF SOMEONE FEELS PAIN OR NOT??? WE CAN'T READ MINDS!!!

[Aegnor]

Personally I'm not really that interested in lobsters, they're not even a common dish where I live. But the way they're being cooked kinda shocked me.