Re: (GON 3rd game)Town wins. Day 5

[jusplay4fun]

When you do vote, try to offer a reason for why you selected that person. Right now we do not have much to go on. And, this being only my second game, I have LOTS to LEARN. I was totally confused my first game and am not sure I know any more now.

I suggest yall lynch me because I still have no idea whats going on, there has been no explanation of what "scummy" is in any of the "game guides" I have been directed to read... And any post I've made to try and make it clear that I'm new and don't know whats going on have been met with suspicion. I've made one post to vote for someone else because thats what i was under the impression I should do based on what everyone else was doing (randomly voting)...How do you defend yourself if you dont know what your being accused of?

[DB4Christ]

Mookie, Newbs,
That's very good advice. If you are confused about methods, terms, tactics or game philosophies, you should consult with the Mod. They (Crasp) can help you understand a lot, without swaying the game. Moo also has offered some good advice along these lines. First and foremost, don't take anything in the game personal. This is a fictitious world, and has nothing to do with CC/GON norms. TC is always trying to move the game along, and usually in a good way.
Trying to push peoples buttons is a common practice/tactic.
Don't freak out brothers/sister......day 1 voting seldom has anything to do with facts, or proof, this is simply a stereotypical beginning.
Taking some good advice myself, I'm headed down to listen to the sermon on Sacrilegious practices....so I can stay sharp!

[charm]

MOOKIE for Town Mayor!!

I think Mookie can only be accused of being someone that knows absolutely nothing! Therefore he should be in office.

As for scummy, I thought that Crown acting very suspicious. I could tell you all how, but I don;t think there is any cliffnotes, so just start on page 1 and by the time you get to the end you'll know what I mean!!

[TheCrown]

mookie looks a lot like an innocent townie now... I got my eyes OFF of him now. And I suppose legion being new to the game is reason enough for his claim without pressure. Charms seems to have taken crasp's place in accusing me of something, with nothing to go on, so whatever.

I will Unvote legion for now, but I will never forget. I will re-read from the start when I get time on Monday...otherwise, I dont' see much.

[Gabsensei]

mookie looks a lot like an innocent townie now... I got my eyes OFF of him now. And I suppose legion being new to the game is reason enough for his claim without pressure. Charms seems to have taken crasp's place in accusing me of something, with nothing to go on, so whatever.

I will Unvote legion for now, but I will never forget. I will re-read from the start when I get time on Monday...otherwise, I dont' see much.

i dont see many scummy thing but archer not wanting us to lynch someone today ans so its why i voted him

[jusplay4fun]

Jus to be clear, I will vote for legionnare since he voted for me. I did not state my reason earlier, in the most clear manner.

and so legionnare, what did you accomplish by voting for me? I think that is scummy voting, IMO

[SiriusCowKing]

First and foremost, don't take anything in the game personal.

I forgot to mention that, and I think it is the most important rule of them all.


So far, my list of people who I find suspect is this:

legionnare - He claimed without being pushed, then talked about his rattling tactics in page 13.

joak - Either he really doesn't understand the game well, or he is faking innocence with the pretext of being noob. If you look at his actions and put aside the fact that he is a noob, this looks very suspicious.

AFK - him and joak seem to be related due to the posts on page 6 and 7. Either they are both mafia, mason brothers, or just very noobish. AFK is particularly suspicious with the fact that he refused to talk, then claim for several pages. That and his talk about working at night. Then again, might just be the noob factor.

Bantam - He is not a noob at this game and refused to talk, mafias would rather not talk than say something wrong. Looking at his answer on page 12, he went to great length to not look suspicious. He didn't wanted to post 2 times in a day in fear that we would think he talks too much.

archer3base - He doesn't want to lynch anyone on day 1 after I said it would pay off later in the game even if we do hit a townie.


I would rather not lynch a noob on day 1 because it could just be the noob factor. Also, I hate discouraging them by killing them before they could see the whole thing. Maybe the cap could follow one of them and see what theory is the right one. Unless new evidence show up, I would go with either Bantam or archer. My gut feeling is that Bantam is more suspicious than archer, so I will vote Bantam for now. There are only 3 days left to change my mind about you, so whatever you have to say, say it quick.

[Bantam]

My gut feeling is that Bantam is more suspicious than archer, so I will vote Bantam for now. There are only 3 days left to change my mind about you, so whatever you have to say, say it quick.

In which case I can guarantee an upset stomach - as your gut instinct is wrong.

Now where is Tuffy ? - He's been quiet recently and he's normally very communicative.

[Killuminati19]

I will unvote mookie even though I wasn't particuliarly pleased with the response. I think the noob is worth a second chance. Not sure where to go from here. I think Moo's list is as good as any.

[legionnare]

So far, my list of people who I find suspect is this:

legionnare - He claimed without being pushed, then talked about his rattling tactics in page 13.

As I said to TheCrown, my claim without being pushed was an attempt to lead by example, I had the purest of intentions at heart and yes I realise how it seems scummy. That was not my intention.

Rattling tactics have same purpose as pushing for a claim, rile them up and see if they say something they didn't mean to in the heat of the moment. As with Jusplay, he seemed mightily pissed that someone would vote for him, which I deem scummy.

[crasp]

With 15 in it takes 8 to lynch. Day ends 23.59 Thursday 20th march
Vote.

Archer- Gabseni (1)
Joak - H8 AFK (1)
Bantam- , charm, sirius (2)
Legionaire- jusplay4fun(1)
Jusplay4fun- Legionaire (1)
Mookie- king Ed (1)

[SiriusCowKing]

As I said to TheCrown, my claim without being pushed was an attempt to lead by example, I had the purest of intentions at heart and yes I realise how it seems scummy. That was not my intention.

Rattling tactics have same purpose as pushing for a claim, rile them up and see if they say something they didn't mean to in the heat of the moment. As with Jusplay, he seemed mightily pissed that someone would vote for him, which I deem scummy.

Good point. I won't put him on my suspect list for now because I don't think it's such big of a deal, but I will keep that in mind for later.

[DB4Christ]

I too am reading back through everything in an attempt to discover any tells. I think Gab possibly has a good point about Archer.....still thinking about that. Curious because, Archer knows that lynching is our Towns best offense against Scum, even if we wrongfully hang a fellow townie....which is an unfortunate inevitability based on previous game history, it still can teach and provide valuable information down the road. Day one almost always comes down to gut feelings, as I previously mentioned, and others have affirmed.

[TheCrown]

So y'all are willing to go after a possible power role, when we already have 2 regular townie claims? I'd rather take my chances with one of them is lying and if we're wrong, we lose a regular only.

[Gabsensei]

So y'all are willing to go after a possible power role, when we already have 2 regular townie claims? I'd rather take my chances with one of them is lying and if we're wrong, we lose a regular only.

like i stated i will stay on archer since he was the oen who really didnt want a lynch on day 1 even if he should understand why it is important

[SiriusCowKing]

So y'all are willing to go after a possible power role, when we already have 2 regular townie claims? I'd rather take my chances with one of them is lying and if we're wrong, we lose a regular only.

What if the doc or the cop is lying and told us he was a regular townie? We have the same chances with lynching everyone. I would rather not lynch a noob on day 1, and I got some veterans on my suspect list. My vote will stand on either Bantam or Archer for now. I will let the rest of the town decides what they want and vote with them, I am ok with either of them, and they both got 1 other vote than me so I will not change my vote.

Archer, Bantam, anything new to defend yourselves? I would be happy to hear your theory on the other players.

[TuffyLess]

Im neither jumping on board the Bantam vote bandwagon nor with the beginnings of the TC investigation just yet.
Plus the accusations against them are fairly undeveloped as of yet and time is precious at this point.

I agree to some posts eluding that something between H8 and joak is weird.
It doesnt lead IMO as to their alignment either way but it does to something else since they seem to play in concert.

If you see it too then Im confirming it.
n00bishness or meaningful?
I dont know but I want to lean on it a little.

So ... H8 has claimed already therefore i put forth that joak does too.

[charm]

Today, I think it is appropriate to let you all enjoy my 2nd grade poem and it also in response to TC insinuating I know nothing....throat clearing....

Dear Gentlemen!
I stand before, to stand behind you
To tell you something, I know nothing about!
Next Tuesday, the day after Thursday,
There will be a ladies meeting for men only!!
Wear your best shoes, if you haven't any
And if you can come, please stay home.
Admission is free, you pay at the door.
We will give you a seat, you sit on the floor!!!

The End!

[TheCrown]

I'm 100% convinced that you don't know what you're talking about charm. Quit throwing suspicion on me without some kind of proof. I think that you would only be doing this because you are scum and want to try and get rid of me, a seasoned veteran, who is town.

Vote Charm

[archer3base]

So y'all are willing to go after a possible power role, when we already have 2 regular townie claims? I'd rather take my chances with one of them is lying and if we're wrong, we lose a regular only.

What if the doc or the cop is lying and told us he was a regular townie? We have the same chances with lynching everyone. I would rather not lynch a noob on day 1, and I got some veterans on my suspect list. My vote will stand on either Bantam or Archer for now. I will let the rest of the town decides what they want and vote with them, I am ok with either of them, and they both got 1 other vote than me so I will not change my vote.

Archer, Bantam, anything new to defend yourselves? I would be happy to hear your theory on the other players.

No need to defend myself... once you lynch a townie and you get no info from it don't come crying to me. I think it's strange that you are overeager to lynch someone. The voting may tell you something but the actual lynch doesn't do anything. You can see voting patterns without actually lynching someone... and right now the odds are that you are going to lynch a townie which I will be no part of.

[archer3base]

So y'all are willing to go after a possible power role, when we already have 2 regular townie claims? I'd rather take my chances with one of them is lying and if we're wrong, we lose a regular only.

What are the odds that the first 2 claims we get would be regular townie claims? Odds wouldn't be very high would they?

[Bantam]

Actually, Bantam did post a single post on page 5, but he didn't replied since we started voting for him. Still, I do count that as being a bit silent.

then within a matter of minutes:

I will vote Bantam I would like to hear what he has to say. But I don't need a claim. I don't want to know what half the people are on day 1.

My gut feeling is that Bantam is more suspicious than archer, so I will vote Bantam for now. There are only 3 days left to change my mind about you, so whatever you have to say, say it quick.

In which case I can guarantee an upset stomach - as your gut instinct is wrong.

I will unvote mookie even though I wasn't particuliarly pleased with the response. I think the noob is worth a second chance. Not sure where to go from here. I think Moo's list is as good as any.

A bandwagon but he doesn't want to jump on ? because:

a: he doesn't believe it
or
b: he doesn't want to be caught out early.

So seeing as the moo-man wanted an opinion vote Killuminati19

[jusplay4fun]

I find it is scummy to throw suspicion on someone based on NO tangible evidence. I still think legion is acting scummy.

So far, my list of people who I find suspect is this:

legionnare - He claimed without being pushed, then talked about his rattling tactics in page 13.

As I said to TheCrown, my claim without being pushed was an attempt to lead by example, I had the purest of intentions at heart and yes I realise how it seems scummy. That was not my intention.

Rattling tactics have same purpose as pushing for a claim, rile them up and see if they say something they didn't mean to in the heat of the moment. As with Jusplay, he seemed mightily pissed that someone would vote for him, which I deem scummy.

[Killuminati19]

A bandwagon but he doesn't want to jump on ? because:

a: he doesn't believe it
or
b: he doesn't want to be caught out early.

So seeing as the moo-man wanted an opinion vote Killuminati19

What? I don't understand your logic. I would like to avoid lynching a noob, what was unclear?

[legionnare]

I find it is scummy to throw suspicion on someone based on NO tangible evidence. I still think legion is acting scummy.

So far, my list of people who I find suspect is this:

legionnare - He claimed without being pushed, then talked about his rattling tactics in page 13.

As I said to TheCrown, my claim without being pushed was an attempt to lead by example, I had the purest of intentions at heart and yes I realise how it seems scummy. That was not my intention.

Rattling tactics have same purpose as pushing for a claim, rile them up and see if they say something they didn't mean to in the heat of the moment. As with Jusplay, he seemed mightily pissed that someone would vote for him, which I deem scummy.

Well considering a couple of the veterens (Sirius and DB4) have already stated that Day 1 lynch is almost always based on gut instinct. As I said in my post that you quoted above I believe you overreacted to being voted, hence why my vote stays on you. If you had a more reasoned response like others that I have voted then it would have allayed my suspicions, instead my suspicions grow more with every post you make as they seem increasingly desperate to put suspicion on me.