[Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 4/18 Blue. Town&DEA+rug win

by **rishaed** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:22 pm

strike wolf wrote:Flores has requested replacement.

If that was gonna happen I wouldn't 'ave voted him. Next Time for sure.unvote. Everyone else seems somewhat active. I'll wait a day maybe to see what else is going on. However Rugbirn did say he was in for quality posting, still waiting for some in terms of things that have been discussed

I admit Caffiene is interesting, but I am going to hold off until tomorrow on him as well.

by **Metsfanmax** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:36 pm

My contribution to the flavor spec: since strike said that it comes mainly from season 1 to 4, I expect that Gus would be the main mafia head. The Salamancas/Crazy 8/etc. have a complicated relationship with that syndicate, though, so it's not clear that they'd be on the same faction as Gus. And I bet the Twins are involved somehow. I would put Saul, Mike, Jesse and Huell (possibly) on the same side. Possibly town. If not, then what kinds of characters would be town? Probably Walt Jr., Marie, Skyler, Hank, Gomez, etc. Definitely potential for many factions that need to achieve different goals. If there was stuff from S5 I might say that Walter White is a lyncher against the Nazis or something, but that seems unlikely.

My reads so far: not much. X-stor might be scum and playing on his seemingly newb level to take advantage of us. Not sure how people are generating town reads on cd; I'm a little wary of why pcm would so easily say that moving along a minor case is a town tell.

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:50 pm

@Metsfanmax interesting opinion about myself, even though im pushing on CD and you seem to have the same thought.

Does that mean anything to you?

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:53 pm

well maybe not same thought, but you are questioning people "town reading him"

you care to give your read on CD

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 10:58 pm

rishaed wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Flores has requested replacement.

If that was gonna happen I wouldn't 'ave voted him. Next Time for sure.unvote. Everyone else seems somewhat active. I'll wait a day maybe to see what else is going on. However Rugbirn did say he was in for quality posting, still waiting for some in terms of things that have been discussed I admit Caffiene is interesting, but I am going to hold off until tomorrow on him as well.

silly thing to say. you had a good reason to vote him. People who are inactive should be pressured. i find it odd you feel "sorry" you pressured an inactive.

unless you are too busy, i would like you to provide some input.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:00 pm

Here's my read. X-Stor-X is dominating the conversation. He has singled out IamCaffeine as his target for the day. Anybody can come up with a "case" based on nothing. This game makes it so easy to put whatever twist you want on to someone's posts. Pick a player...I could come up with a case on why they are scum. The fact that X-Stor-X has been dominating the conversation has not allowed anything else to develop, thus people are thinking, "meh, seems like an okay D1 case..." It's not really convincing, but there has been nothing else to develop.

So, there you go. I have no reads. X-Stor-X is more likely to be lynched for his over posting...not because he's scummy.

Also, I don't get all the flavor related jokes...don't shoot me for it.

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:12 pm

its baffling how people are not reading my case on iamcaffeine, specially my conclusion on if i think he is town or mafia.

Plenty can develop, the fact that you ignore the people i have called scum, and you are not talking about baffles me.

plz read the thread before you post, sorry if this is insulting but honestly.

by **Anarkistsdream** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:34 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:its baffling how people are not reading my case on iamcaffeine, specially my conclusion on if i think he is town or mafia.

Plenty can develop, the fact that you ignore the people i have called scum, and you are not talking about baffles me.

plz read the thread before you post, sorry if this is insulting but honestly.

Honestly, that makes you sound a bit prickish... Be good or....

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:38 pm

i said my read on iamcaffeine was neutral, and i've had several people take that as my #1 scum push.

sorry if im annoyed with people

and doesn't matter if im a prick or annoying or rude. Sorry if it makes your game less pleasant but i stated, im here to catch scum

by **betiko** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:43 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:
rishaed wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Flores has requested replacement.

If that was gonna happen I wouldn't 'ave voted him. Next Time for sure.unvote. Everyone else seems somewhat active. I'll wait a day maybe to see what else is going on. However Rugbirn did say he was in for quality posting, still waiting for some in terms of things that have been discussed I admit Caffiene is interesting, but I am going to hold off until tomorrow on him as well.

silly thing to say. you had a good reason to vote him. People who are inactive should be pressured. i find it odd you feel "sorry" you pressured an inactive.

unless you are too busy, i would like you to provide some input.

I have to somehow agree on this small case. rish's reaction is somewhat strange.... you knew the inactive would either try to post or throw the towel and pass on the relay to someone more active. I'm pretty happy of the outcome; mets will be active and knows the show. Big deal, right, you pressured an inactive and he got replaced.. trying to look super nice? :roll:

anyway... unvote flores/mets

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by **Anarkistsdream** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:58 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:i said my read on iamcaffeine was neutral, and i've had several people take that as my #1 scum push.

sorry if im annoyed with people

and doesn't matter if im a prick or annoying or rude. Sorry if it makes your game less pleasant but i stated, im here to catch scum

It's a game first and foremost. Do not attempt to dismiss that or act superior... You seriously need to take a moment to realize what you are saying... Everything thing is cool, but the insults and inconsideration needs to go, bro.

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:14 am

k your right does matter, i can tone down.

you care to push a read of your own?

by **superkeener** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 12:54 am

Wow. I wake up to a lot of X-Stor

I agree with Nebuchadnezer that XStor is dominating the conversation, but I disagree with Nebuchadnezer that it is a negative thing. Maybe just a little overbearing, but I can see how many would find it "off-putting"

However, after getting caught up on the 3 pages... It was basically noise to me.

I have always been on the fence about pushing for a D1 lynch on the inactives. I think it is still too early in D1 to start lynching inactives, hopefully we can get some more replacements if they do not have time for this game.

by **rishaed** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 1:43 am

betiko wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:
rishaed wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Flores has requested replacement.

If that was gonna happen I wouldn't 'ave voted him. Next Time for sure.unvote. Everyone else seems somewhat active. I'll wait a day maybe to see what else is going on. However Rugbirn did say he was in for quality posting, still waiting for some in terms of things that have been discussed I admit Caffiene is interesting, but I am going to hold off until tomorrow on him as well.

silly thing to say. you had a good reason to vote him. People who are inactive should be pressured. i find it odd you feel "sorry" you pressured an inactive.

unless you are too busy, i would like you to provide some input.

I have to somehow agree on this small case. rish's reaction is somewhat strange.... you knew the inactive would either try to post or throw the towel and pass on the relay to someone more active. I'm pretty happy of the outcome; mets will be active and knows the show. Big deal, right, you pressured an inactive and he got replaced.. trying to look super nice?

anyway... unvote flores/mets

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hahaha you guys are taking it wrong. I was looking forward to playing another game with Flores

Therefor its fortunately unfortunatly fortunate that he got replaced. :mrgreen:

Nothing more or less.

by **iAmCaffeine** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 3:15 am

pancakemix wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:well mr pancakemix, what do you think of cooldeals or virus?

Or do you have a scum read on someone you would like to share?

Insufficient data. Seems goodnatured, but that speaks to the poster and not of his posts. There's nothing to read but inactivity, if you choose to read that.

Town read. Definitely seems to be trying to help us make progress (see: the brief case on Rugbirn), perhaps a little offput (even suspicious) by your playstyle, which he sees as aggressive

My strongest scum read as of now is Caffeine. See above for that.

As I have already said, X-Stor-X OMGUS'd me, not vice versa.

If you want to know my other townread is betiko because he keeps things moving but isn't diving in head first like Stor.

by **betiko** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:02 am

Rodion, get your ass in here. I know you never participate in day 1, but really.... you are by far the least participative.

have you seen the show? how many scum would you reckon we are facing? in case of no solid lead, what is your recommendation?

by **MoB Deadly** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:05 am

Woah woah woah... Can we slow down just a little please.

I like the way stor is playing. Making everyone accountable for all their opinions. Hopefully he can keep track of 18 players' worth of opinions past Day 1. That is a daunting task.

But please slow down. I wanted to comment on cases/opnions but they have come and gone and have lost my timing to do so.

Going to look back and see what I wanted to talk about.......

fastposted by betiko

by **MoB Deadly** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:09 am

In a very general sense, I want to go after someone quiet.

With Stor here, the best mafia play would be to keep quiet and let him lead the way. Because using general probability, the chance of stor picking mafia on Day 1 is far less than town.

by **Metsfanmax** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:22 am

MoB Deadly wrote:With Stor here, the best mafia play would be to keep quiet and let him lead the way. Because using general probability, the chance of stor picking mafia on Day 1 is far less than town.

But, to get meta/WIFOM, that might be the wrong move, because everyone knows that stor is dominating the conversation, and it seems like he will eventually start yelling at the people who aren't contributing. Stor's gameplay isn't really tailored enough to discriminate between who's mafia and who is town on D1. The sheer volume of conversation to be generated means that it will not really be easier to catch scumtells.

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 9:54 am

what kind of scum tell are you looking for?

got an example?

side question, are you expecting to lynch a mafia on day 1? if you think its unlikely a scum will be lynched (insert what ever reason doesn't matter)

The reason im asking these questions, this is a new place and new meta. Im not sure how day 1 is played here. If its to wait for something to "happen" idk. all i can do is play my game. I have a plan to catch scum, im looking for peoples opinions, seeing how they match up vs my own. how believable are they with their reasons etc. I want a lynch to have some tension today, i don't want the lynch to be "welp we have to decide on 1 person so lets pick x" I want discussion on such target, to the point if that person flips town, we can look at the votes, see who was really pushing. if a scum is lynched, who spear headed it? etc.

by **StorrZerg** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:01 am

iAmCaffeine wrote:
pancakemix wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:well mr pancakemix, what do you think of cooldeals or virus?

Or do you have a scum read on someone you would like to share?

Insufficient data. Seems goodnatured, but that speaks to the poster and not of his posts. There's nothing to read but inactivity, if you choose to read that.

Town read. Definitely seems to be trying to help us make progress (see: the brief case on Rugbirn), perhaps a little offput (even suspicious) by your playstyle, which he sees as aggressive

My strongest scum read as of now is Caffeine. See above for that.

As I have already said, X-Stor-X OMGUS'd me, not vice versa.

If you want to know my other townread is betiko because he keeps things moving but isn't diving in head first like Stor.

can you give an example for your betiko read?

and back again iamcaffeine, i feel you are more likely to be an over defensive townie. you should stop playing in fear of because i called some of your actions scummy. no you may not care right now for what i think, but i need you to be backing up your opinions with something. I want to know the why. again, parden the excesses because "its day 1" or "lack of stuff to comment on" the latter part is more so directed to the rest of the players in the game.

by **betiko** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:03 am

X-Stor-X wrote:what kind of scum tell are you looking for?

got an example?

side question, are you expecting to lynch a mafia on day 1? if you think its unlikely a scum will be lynched (insert what ever reason doesn't matter)

The reason im asking these questions, this is a new place and new meta. Im not sure how day 1 is played here. If its to wait for something to "happen" idk. all i can do is play my game. I have a plan to catch scum, im looking for peoples opinions, seeing how they match up vs my own. how believable are they with their reasons etc. I want a lynch to have some tension today, i don't want the lynch to be "welp we have to decide on 1 person so lets pick x" I want discussion on such target, to the point if that person flips town, we can look at the votes, see who was really pushing. if a scum is lynched, who spear headed it? etc.

-people get fed up and bandwagon on any small goof to get a claim; and this time it fell on player A
-player A s claim is debated, then someone starts attacking player B because of the way he is reacting to player A's case
-either people are convinced about player A being scum and lynch him, either player B is forced to claim
-you then have 2 town claim wich in the end are quite believable, but people end up lynching one of them for science.

by **rishaed** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:28 am

betiko wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:what kind of scum tell are you looking for?

got an example?

side question, are you expecting to lynch a mafia on day 1? if you think its unlikely a scum will be lynched (insert what ever reason doesn't matter)

The reason im asking these questions, this is a new place and new meta. Im not sure how day 1 is played here. If its to wait for something to "happen" idk. all i can do is play my game. I have a plan to catch scum, im looking for peoples opinions, seeing how they match up vs my own. how believable are they with their reasons etc. I want a lynch to have some tension today, i don't want the lynch to be "welp we have to decide on 1 person so lets pick x" I want discussion on such target, to the point if that person flips town, we can look at the votes, see who was really pushing. if a scum is lynched, who spear headed it? etc.

-people get fed up and bandwagon on any small goof to get a claim; and this time it fell on player A
-player A s claim is debated, then someone starts attacking player B because of the way he is reacting to player A's case
-either people are convinced about player A being scum and lynch him, either player B is forced to claim
-you then have 2 town claim wich in the end are quite believable, but people end up lynching one of them for science.

QFT, i also dare say that If the first claim is a VT, its almost impossible to have enough town cred on D1 not to get lynched, no matter how believable. Its WCS/BCS thing.

by **jonty125** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:30 am

X-Stor-X wrote:side question, are you expecting to lynch a mafia on day 1? if you think its unlikely a scum will be lynched (insert what ever reason doesn't matter)

More than likely to see a town lynch based on the balance of probability.

And my opinion on Caffeine, I can see how some of his posts can be scummy (I do have to disagree with the rolefishing comments though), but I think it's more I don't trust X-Stor-X rather than I'm a scummy scumster.

by **Rodion** on Wed Feb 26, 2014 10:33 am

betiko wrote:Rodion, get your ass in here. I know you never participate in day 1, but really.... you are by far the least participative.

have you seen the show? how many scum would you reckon we are facing? in case of no solid lead, what is your recommendation?

I've not seen the show (answered that on monday, I think). My internet did not work yesterday, so I'm speaking from work. That and I hate the beginning of D1 (glad my dislike for that has been incorporated to my meta). Also didn't read since my last post, I just searched the forums for my name and saw this post of yours.

Depending on how third parties are set, mafia could go as low as 3 and as big as 4 people, in my opinion. I'm guessing 4.

I'll look for leads when I get time (hopefully tomorrow, internet allowing me - if not, then it's Carnival time and who knows when I might be back). In case of no solid leads, I'd pressure someone who is most likely to botch a fakeclaim (new and that doesn't know the show)*. I'm not going to mention the pressure inactives way of Safari because there are 4 replacements ready to sub.

*that's a last resort thing: ideally, someone WILL f*ck up (if they haven't already) and we'll have a lead