[Official] Breaking Bad Mafia 4/18 Blue. Town&DEA+rug win

by **betiko** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:25 am

superkeener wrote:Unvote

I have been lumped into the "Fairly Newb to Very Newb" category and I agree. I have only played a few mafia games on CC, but I have played several more on another site. However, I am not very experienced...blah blah blah...

I am a HUGE fan of Breaking Bad. If I had to choose I would select it as my favorite TV series.
As far as characters that I think are a MUST for this Mafia include:

1. Walt
2. Jesse
3. Hank
4. Gus
5. Mike
6. Saul

However, just because Walt is the main character and since I know how the series evolves, I do not believe he necessarily is "Town" ....perhaps he needs a solo win or something similar.

Jesse, maybe a village idiot type of role.

Hank, cop. no doubt about it.

Gus, Mafia

Mike - I would think a Strongman/ninja type of role.

Saul - Walt and Jesse's lawyer...

Those are 6 roles that I believe are for sure here somewhere.

Other roles from the series that could be involved:
Badger and Skinny Pete (Both allied with Jesse and maybe by extension Walt)
We have Gus's crew and The Mexican cartel crew. I would bet at least 2 mafias in this game.

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As far as the posting right now. D1 is always strange and no one really knows where to lean. I am OK with lynching a non-active, but I think the game is still too early to see who will be "inactive"

I also do not like attacking someone just because they are a Vet or a noob.

I couldn't agree more with all you said keener. As another guy who's seen the entire show, I was thinking that these 6 were there for certain.
Regarding walt though, I was initially thinking the same, but if we read between the lines in what strike replied... it seems like he had to do something simple regarding walt's alignment (town), or at least that's what I understand. Not sure there is that complexity in the walt/jessie relationship translated in the alignments.
hank, definitely a cop, but my guess is thrid party with his side kick Gomez.

hum... could there be a walt and a heisenberg impersonated by 2 different players?

there has to be some strange thing in the setting... all official games have! and right now, I think that anyone who has seen the show would agree that walt/heisenberg is too much of a loose canon to be just another townie.. the show is called "breaking bad" refering to him obviously.

fastposted by stor

by **cooldeals** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:35 am

MoB Deadly wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:Vets:
2. Anarkistdream
5. Betiko
6. Mob Deadly
10. Pancakemix
11. Floresdesmal
12. Rodion
13. Theforgivenone
15. Nagerous
17. Iron Butterfly

Been here long enough to know better
3. Rishaed
8. Jonty125
9. Iamcaffeine (might have been here longer, but I don't remember)
18. Nebuchadnezer

Fairly Newb to Very Newb
1. Virus90
4. Superkeener
14. Rugbirn
16. x-stor-x

Very Newb:

Newbiest of all Noobs:
7. Cooldeals

Fixed*

Actually I really like this list for 1 major reason. It lets me know who has played together and possibly has a feel for each other. The only person I've played with before is MoB so to be honest I don't know if any of you are acting out of the ordinary. I'll probably use this list when reading posts where someone calls another player out just to see if they have played many games together.

Also, I don't mind spoilers that help the game. Spoilers for spoilers sake though in a 10 page fresh game seems a little much.

In the TNC forum we've tried something new lately. It comes with much fire though. Due to the fact that we hardly ever catch scum on D1 and that we tend to go after similar people each day. (Some players are just too blabbermouthed as townies for their own good). We started trying a random pressure on D1. MoB actually suggested a system where we pick a high scoring sports game like a NBA game and then cycle through the OP list of players via the combined score. So like if the score was 125-120 you'd have 245 points so cycle though our list 1-18 repeatedly from and you'd land on the 11th player in the list. It's a little complicated but that seemed the best way to keep someone from rigging the random.

We also have feelings to think about as clan mates though so maybe that's what sparked the idea. I think the weak players who got pressured D1 often because they didn't really help got offended.

Anyway, as the newbie of newbies I'm totally fine with continuing the joke stage. It seems that we are back to the joke stage again as I don't really see anything sticking out and we need to generate some more discussion.

Instead of using random.org this time though I'll just come out and vote Rugburn

because these are his only posts and I'd like to hear more from him than OMGUS and hello:

Rugbirn wrote:iN pLEASE

Rugbirn wrote:Confirm my role.....Sorry I was busy eating pancakes; ran out of syrup - darn, - got plenty of milk though

Vote cooldeals....he panics easily...

Rugbirn wrote:Hey pancakemix, wasn't Walt's kid (can't remember his name) also an artist, or dabbling to be?

fp by Betiko

by **cooldeals** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:37 am

Also, thought on what Betiko is talking about. Do you think Walt could be a turncoat? Someone who could be both town or mafia in the end?

by **TheForgivenOne** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 11:49 am

X-Stor-X wrote:
TheForgivenOne wrote:It really seems you expect the players to have all the answers right now, to be able to pull immediate scum tells out of the joke vote stage. We (well, maybe not me) aren't miracle workers here, brah.

But discussion is good *Thumbs up*

Unvote.

I expect people to start forming opinions. Start pushing on people they think are scum. Also as you can tell, i want discussion. If people don't like my line of questioning that's fine, then they need to provoke something else in the air instead of stonewalling and killing conversation.

I'll probably be getting around today with some harder opinions.

I'm fine on the opinions, but you have to realize it's a little hard to form them on 99.9% jokevotes.

I don't like that I can't really put much of an opinion on what characters might be in this game

Damn you work, taking away my TV time.

Anyways. Virus' posts are baffling me a bit.

virus90 wrote:actually the quote makes less sense to me now because i now noticed he voted me for being inactive basicly so it is kind of contradicting.

He wanted you to post basically. You might be looking a bit too much at those posts.

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:02 pm

Let's talk less about setup
mod made a post about setup.

unless people want to push for a mass claim on d1 then, we do not have much to talk about. Sure it is interesting, but tbh its clutter for this day.

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:09 pm

@cooldeals

absolutly not rng day 1 Lynch.

Im still happy with cooldeals or virus for a day 1 . Lynch..

I am trying hard to get town on track, and for you to make another push for RNG and to drive town off topic back to jokes just irks me more.

by **iAmCaffeine** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:21 pm

I would like to point out that virus and I are friends and in the same clan. That is why I was aware of his real life situations making him quiet everywhere, not just here. I am not buddying or pushing him; I posted as I didn't know when he would make an appearance.

Suspecting players of being scum because they lurk is not the best basis.

I have a townread or two at the moment, nothing more.

by **betiko** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:21 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:Let's talk less about setup
mod made a post about setup.

unless people want to push for a mass claim on d1 then, we do not have much to talk about. Sure it is interesting, but tbh its clutter for this day.

how is talking about setup and flavour not useful? did we hit a soft spot in anything discussed so far in that sense for you stor?

by **Rugbirn** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:26 pm

Cooldeals,
If you want to vote me out -fine, but at least spell my name right!

Betiko must be mafia, cause townies would never make fun of a disabled teenager - too PC. I do like the shoe umbrellas.

Also, remember it's not how MUCH you say in this game, it's WHAT you say (or don't say).

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:29 pm

betiko wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:Let's talk less about setup
mod made a post about setup.

unless people want to push for a mass claim on d1 then, we do not have much to talk about. Sure it is interesting, but tbh its clutter for this day.

how is talking about setup and flavour not useful? did we hit a soft spot in anything discussed so far in that sense for you stor?

Because it is easy to hide oneself in setup talk with out showing colors.
we will have plenty of time to talk about setup when the time comes.

tell me why setup talk is good on day 1?

by **jonty125** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:31 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:I don't have a FoS by the way. You've read too much into what I'm doing.

Oh I know you don't have a FOS on him [that been X-Stor-X] but in my head it came out with a sinistery, mafia-y, voice. And for the record, no I don't, read what everyone says aloud with different voices.

by **cooldeals** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:35 pm

Rugbirn wrote:Cooldeals,
If you want to vote me out -fine, but at least spell my name right!

Betiko must be mafia, cause townies would never make fun of a disabled teenager - too PC. I do like the shoe umbrellas.

Also, remember it's not how MUCH you say in this game, it's WHAT you say (or don't say).

unvote

vote Rugbirn

unvote

sorry is that better. I agree with you that it is what you post that matters. But I just didn't see much posting from you. I vote you and amazingly you pop back up.

@X-stor Could you please build a case? It's D1 we have nothing to go on. We are realistic and admit that and are letting conversation happen. You are just attacking every single person who doesn't make a case out of thin air when you yourself have no case except that people have no case which is the same case that could be made about you. In any case, I'm curious as to the case of your case that doesn't involve not making a case.

by **betiko** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:39 pm

X-Stor-X wrote:
betiko wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:Let's talk less about setup
mod made a post about setup.

unless people want to push for a mass claim on d1 then, we do not have much to talk about. Sure it is interesting, but tbh its clutter for this day.

how is talking about setup and flavour not useful? did we hit a soft spot in anything discussed so far in that sense for you stor?

Because it is easy to hide oneself in setup talk with out showing colors.
we will have plenty of time to talk about setup when the time comes.

tell me why setup talk is good on day 1?

because we start with nothing, and a flavour talk is the best way to see the game from someone else's perspective. WIFOM apart, you definitely can get something out of it when everybody participates.
Do you have a train to catch or something? as far as I know there is no deadline set up by the mod yet; and we have plenty of time right now to get people's opinion on this.

fastposted by cooldeals and lol

by **nagerous** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 12:42 pm

betiko wrote:lol, I've been called impatient many times and you just don't know what you signed up for stor
there are always a few players that disapear for a few days, a game like this lasts at least 2 month, and day 1 is always a pain in the ass to start moving. there is rarely anything to start with on day 1 obviously... people lynch on a luck based gut feeling...

hey nag; you didn't answer. you had a breaking bad mafia prepared as well? given that this one has started i guess you will never do the one you started preparing?
could be interesting if you could tell us how you thought of your settings. there are different shades of good and bad in the show, and after all walt, the main character makes a trip from good to bad throughout all the show.. since it's an official game I expect some very unique mechanisms, but maybe I'm wrong.

I had a few ideas floating around but nothing concrete set up. One idea I had was of Walt starting as a townie, then becoming part of the mafia, then later potentially a split from the mafia but I hadn't figured out the mechanics exactly. Ermentrout as a janitor, fring as having immunity from investigation with his burger bar cover, hank as a cop, gomie as deputy, saul as mafia politician, various other roles like walt jr, marie, jane, badger making up the town.

by **iAmCaffeine** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:06 pm

jonty125 wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:I don't have a FoS by the way. You've read too much into what I'm doing.

Oh I know you don't have a FOS on him [that been X-Stor-X] but in my head it came out with a sinistery, mafia-y, voice. And for the record, no I don't, read what everyone says aloud with different voices.

I know what I was saying could have sounded scummy. That's why I was giving both good and bad perspectives. Also, pushing slightly on X-Stor-X has given me more reads.

by **strike wolf** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:07 pm

superkeener wrote:Saul - Walt and Jesse's lawyer...

"DUI? Selling drugs? Better call Saul!"

Official Vote Count

Flores (1)-Betiko
Anarchist (1)- Nagerous
Virus90 (2)-Pancake, Betiko
Rodion
Pancake
Cooldeals (3)-x-stor-x, nebuchadnezer, rugbirn
Mob Deadly
Nagerous
Theforgivenone
iAmCaffeine (1)-Anarkist
Betiko (1)-Jonty125
x-stor-x (1)-Iron Butterfly

With 18 alive it takes 10 to lynch. Deadline is Tuesday, March 4th.

I have to go out of town unexpectedly and won't be fully back until late Thursday. I should still check the thread and have my laptop to read PMs but I probably won't respond to all of them and I don't think I'll be able to post a full vote count. Considering the pace this game is keeping right now, if someone could post a vote count while I'm gone that would help a lot. Thanks. As far as activity, keep it up. I think there are a couple who haven't posted as much but pretty much everyone is keeping active. Really nice to see.

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:17 pm

cooldeals wrote:
Rugbirn wrote:Cooldeals,
If you want to vote me out -fine, but at least spell my name right!

Betiko must be mafia, cause townies would never make fun of a disabled teenager - too PC. I do like the shoe umbrellas.

Also, remember it's not how MUCH you say in this game, it's WHAT you say (or don't say).

unvote

vote Rugbirn

unvote

sorry is that better. I agree with you that it is what you post that matters. But I just didn't see much posting from you. I vote you and amazingly you pop back up.

@X-stor Could you please build a case? It's D1 we have nothing to go on. We are realistic and admit that and are letting conversation happen. You are just attacking every single person who doesn't make a case out of thin air when you yourself have no case except that people have no case which is the same case that could be made about you. In any case, I'm curious as to the case of your case that doesn't involve not making a case.

case? i have a week to build a case on you!
I've clearly stated why i don't like some of your opinions regarding game talk. (RNG)

As for what your doing? you pushed on Rugbirn, and he popes up. I find that very interesting. (bonus points for you)
Still the talk about RNG, into the push felt weird. It is as if you don't believe in your RNG thoughts, so you would rather push.

by **Rugbirn** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:24 pm

I'm aways here :-$

, just separating the wheat from the chaff - and there seems to be allot of chaff so far :idea:

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:26 pm

betiko wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:
betiko wrote:
X-Stor-X wrote:Let's talk less about setup
mod made a post about setup.

unless people want to push for a mass claim on d1 then, we do not have much to talk about. Sure it is interesting, but tbh its clutter for this day.

how is talking about setup and flavour not useful? did we hit a soft spot in anything discussed so far in that sense for you stor?

Because it is easy to hide oneself in setup talk with out showing colors.
we will have plenty of time to talk about setup when the time comes.

tell me why setup talk is good on day 1?

because we start with nothing, and a flavour talk is the best way to see the game from someone else's perspective. WIFOM apart, you definitely can get something out of it when everybody participates.
Do you have a train to catch or something? as far as I know there is no deadline set up by the mod yet; and we have plenty of time right now to get people's opinion on this.

fastposted by cooldeals and lol

the way i see it, is its a way to role hunt. it is a way to innocently talk about set up, and characters from the show. As town we are less likely going to pick up on slips about ones character. Pretty sure mafia would have a much easier time picking up on setup talk and finding a strong town role to kill off. Anything setup talk is also not alignment telling. "Hey walts gonna be town cause he is always trying to help his family" vs "no walts gonna be scum cause he is an evil person" I'm telling you now, if someone claims to be the most innocent person in the show, and obviously they should be town that isn't gonna mean much to me IMO. That persons actions and posts and opinions in this game will be the deciding factor.

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:27 pm

Rugbirn wrote:I'm aways here , just separating the wheat from the chaff - and there seems to be allot of chaff so far

cool lets talk about something.

Got an opinion on cooldeals and what about mob daily?

by **cooldeals** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:41 pm

X-Stor what is RNG? I'm kind of lost.

by **strike wolf** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:42 pm

Since I was asked about it in PM and I don't really have a problem announcing it, mafia do have fake claims.

Edit: His name is Mob Deadly

by **Rugbirn** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:43 pm

Yeah,
cooldeals seems a bit panicy to me and Mob D - well the name says it all

by **betiko** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:49 pm

Rugbirn wrote:Yeah,
cooldeals seems a bit panicy to me and Mob D - well the name says it all

And I think that nag is walt, look at his avatar! :lol:

I m not familiar with the term RNG either stor

by **StorrZerg** on Tue Feb 25, 2014 1:50 pm

cooldeals wrote:X-Stor what is RNG? I'm kind of lost.

Random number Generator

so it in use "Well idk who to lynch today, lets RNG it"
in reality you probably just randomly pick, you don't ACTUALLY use a random number generator.

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