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by **georgizhukov** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:14 am

I'm not sure where to post this so I'll do it here. This game is ridiculous. A tourney game randomly spawned monsters map on F-ing fog trench. This map is impossible to win under these settings. You cannot use mindblast to assault because it resets to 3 every round. You can't get to the monsters because the shields reset every round. There is no possible way to win the game... Shouldn't these settings be disabled on this map to avoid a 50 round horrible game in the future?

by **owenshooter** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:27 am

Game 13894682

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even the black jesus is not amused..-el Jesus negro

by **bahrain** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:31 am

are you for real? you are a brigadier and have soon played 7000 games and you didnt know you can attack from a killer neutral with trench

by **owenshooter** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 11:41 am

georgizhukov wrote:This map is impossible to win under these settings.

bahrain wrote:are you for real? you are a brigadier and have soon played 7000 games and you didnt know you can attack from a killer neutral with trench

The Rules wrote:With trench warfare you can only assault from regions held continuously since the start of your turn. If you conquer a region (or re-conquer a region) you cannot assault further from that region during the same turn. The one exception being 'killer neutrals' (explained on the Gameplay Notes page) from which you may continue assaulting. The game no longer involves steamrolling across the board. Instead you gradually advance your front!

you don't say... the black jesus has spoken...-el Jesus negro

by **Dukasaur** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 12:38 pm

owenshooter wrote:
georgizhukov wrote:This map is impossible to win under these settings.
bahrain wrote:are you for real? you are a brigadier and have soon played 7000 games and you didnt know you can attack from a killer neutral with trench

The Rules wrote:With trench warfare you can only assault from regions held continuously since the start of your turn. If you conquer a region (or re-conquer a region) you cannot assault further from that region during the same turn. The one exception being 'killer neutrals' (explained on the Gameplay Notes page) from which you may continue assaulting. The game no longer involves steamrolling across the board. Instead you gradually advance your front!

you don't say... the black jesus has spoken...-el Jesus negro

This misunderstanding seems to crop up fairly often. Maybe we need to publicize it some other way. I'll give it some thought.

by **georgizhukov** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:31 pm

you can attack from a killer neutral meaning I can take the neutral and then advance and attack again? I have never heard that no.

by **JBlombier** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:35 pm

georgizhukov wrote:you can attack from a killer neutral meaning I can take the neutral and then advance and attack again? I have never heard that no.

That's exactly the case indeed. Otherwise it would be impossible to play a load of maps on trench, like you were experiencing.

by **owenshooter** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:36 pm

georgizhukov wrote:you can attack from a killer neutral meaning I can take the neutral and then advance and attack again? I have never heard that no.

The Rules wrote:With trench warfare you can only assault from regions held continuously since the start of your turn. If you conquer a region (or re-conquer a region) you cannot assault further from that region during the same turn. The one exception being 'killer neutrals' (explained on the Gameplay Notes page) from which you may continue assaulting.

yeah... pulled it right out of the rules for you... GOOD LUCK!!! the black jesus says it never hurts to help... the black jesus has spoken...-el Jesus negro

by **demonfork** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 2:39 pm

georgizhukov wrote:you can attack from a killer neutral meaning I can take the neutral and then advance and attack again? I have never heard that no.

I didn't hear about it either but I didn't need to, it was obvious to me that it had to work that way.

You're prob. just not that good at figuring out simple and obvious things.

by **georgizhukov** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:49 pm

I appreciate all of the creative criticism. It's not really "obvious" that you could do that without ever having played one before. I'm sure I could have somehow managed to figure it out as the game proceeded, if only I was as educated as demonfork.

by **demonfork** on Wed Jan 22, 2014 3:58 pm

georgizhukov wrote:I appreciate all of the creative criticism. It's not really "obvious" that you could do that without ever having played one before. I'm sure I could have somehow managed to figure it out as the game proceeded, if only I was as educated as demonfork.

It is obvious...

There are exactly 2 choices

1. You can attack thru killer neutrals.

2. You can't attack thru killer neutrals thus the setting is broken on maps with killer neutrals.

Given only 2 choices is it really that hard to figure out that you can attack thru killer neutrals in trench?

Do you honestly think that we could have gone this long without discovering a broken setting like this?