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Re: F400 Ranking [Dec 1 Updated]

Postby benga on Mon Dec 30, 2013 2:39 am

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Re: F400 Ranking [Dec 1 Updated]

Postby hyposquasher on Wed Jan 01, 2014 11:35 am

Happy New Year, everyone!

Hey IcePack, it's January 1 :mrgreen:
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Re: F400 Ranking [Dec 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:27 pm

hyposquasher wrote:Happy New Year, everyone!

Hey IcePack, it's January 1 :mrgreen:


Indeed it is, working on it :)
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:15 am

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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby angola on Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:40 am

I wonder if our win over LOW will push us past KORT.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby HardAttack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 11:43 am

angola wrote:I wonder if our win over LOW will push us past KORT.


our OSA win should counter your charge in i guess :lol:
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:03 pm

angola wrote:I wonder if our win over LOW will push us past KORT.


Guess the final score and completion date and I'll let you know.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby jetsetwilly on Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:10 pm

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angola wrote:I wonder if our win over LOW will push us past KORT.


Guess the final score and completion date and I'll let you know.


I would guess 38-23 if the two games that aren't clear go each way. Unfortunately they are both large NS games and could easily take 2 more weeks to finish.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:23 pm

Sounds good I'll look into it a Little later and post or find you on Skype.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby hyposquasher on Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:26 pm

Pretty sweet. Thanks for the update as always, IcePack!
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:34 pm

Nice to be moving up the rankings. How come our war with VVV wasn't counted?
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:39 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:Nice to be moving up the rankings. How come our war with VVV wasn't counted?


It was if you look at the recent war included list yours completed 12/20.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby Keefie on Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:43 pm

iAmCaffeine wrote:Nice to be moving up the rankings. How come our war with VVV wasn't counted?


Caff don't take this the wrong way it's not a pop at you or ATN, but I find it slightly ridiculous that you come into the rankings higher than us after we beat you 30-19 in your second war. The F400 has a flaw in that new entries are treated more favourably by the logrithms than established clans.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:48 pm

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iAmCaffeine wrote:Nice to be moving up the rankings. How come our war with VVV wasn't counted?


Caff don't take this the wrong way it's not a pop at you or ATN, but I find it slightly ridiculous that you come into the rankings higher than us after we beat you 30-19 in your second war. The F400 has a flaw in that new entries are treated more favourably by the logrithms than established clans.


I wouldn't say that necessarily. New clans start @ 1000 Pts. ATN debuted at 965, meaning they've dropped from their starting position.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby iAmCaffeine on Thu Jan 02, 2014 3:56 pm

Keefie wrote:
iAmCaffeine wrote:Nice to be moving up the rankings. How come our war with VVV wasn't counted?


Caff don't take this the wrong way it's not a pop at you or ATN, but I find it slightly ridiculous that you come into the rankings higher than us after we beat you 30-19 in your second war. The F400 has a flaw in that new entries are treated more favourably by the logrithms than established clans.


I get where you're coming from mate; I was surprised to see you ranked below us, but I think HH should be ranked higher, rather than ATN ranked lower.

At the same time, HH haven't been around all that long compared to many clans. Was your win over FOED included in this update?
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:37 pm

It probably is a flaw when 1,000pts is the starting point for a clan that is not necessarily 'new' in the true sense of the word, but rather merged or reformed. I'm sure ACE's meteoric rise came at the expense of some who were playing a top drawer clan that was graded well below par.

I'm just glad they've now accumulated a lot of points before we meet them in the next round of the Conqueror's Cup.

Out of interest Ice, if we beat Atlantis 35-26 do we win or lose points? With only 2pts separating us from KORT it would be rather odd to lose top spot after a resounding victory.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:40 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:It probably is a flaw when 1,000pts is the starting point for a clan that is not necessarily 'new' in the true sense of the word, but rather merged or reformed. I'm sure ACE's meteoric rise came at the expense of some who were playing a top drawer clan that was graded well below par.

I'm just glad they've now accumulated a lot of points before we meet them in the next round of the Conqueror's Cup.

Out of interest Ice, if we beat Atlantis 35-26 do we win or lose points? With only 2pts separating us from KORT it would be rather odd to lose top spot after a resounding victory.


Yeah, ACE and ATL situation is a bit more difficult, but unfortunately everyone goes through it if you're a higher ranked clan (or very well could be) and those who are going into the wars usually have some form of control over it (unless its say, the CC4). We went through the same thing, where we faced ATL who was ranked 1000 pts (brand new) but clearly was a higher level clan in our first round of CC4.

I'm home now, so I'll check on and answer both of your scoring questions.

Out of interest Ice, if we beat Atlantis 35-26 do we win or lose points? With only 2pts separating us from KORT it would be rather odd to lose top spot after a resounding victory.


Same question to you, please give a final completion date (estimated) for the calculation.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 9:47 pm

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angola wrote:I wonder if our win over LOW will push us past KORT.


Guess the final score and completion date and I'll let you know.


I would guess 38-23 if the two games that aren't clear go each way. Unfortunately they are both large NS games and could easily take 2 more weeks to finish.


1. Under this calculation, its assumed neither you or KORT have any other entries between now and when it completes.
2. Date of calculation used = today + 2 weeks (1.16.14)
3. Based on score and date provided, it can be assumed that you theoretically can push past KORT.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:08 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Out of interest Ice, if we beat Atlantis 35-26 do we win or lose points? With only 2pts separating us from KORT it would be rather odd to lose top spot after a resounding victory.


1. Under this calculation, its assumed neither you or ATL have any other entries between now and when it completes.
2. Date of calculation used as instructed = today + 10 days (1.12.14)
3. Based on score and date provided, it can be assumed that you will theoretically gain additional points.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:15 pm

Thanks mate (love the weasel clause 'theoretically') ;)
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Thu Jan 02, 2014 10:18 pm

Chariot of Fire wrote:Thanks mate (love the weasel clause 'theoretically') ;)


Hard to say definitively without knowing if there are anything else completing before the date / war in question ;)
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby PaRKoN on Fri Jan 03, 2014 4:29 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:I'm just glad they've now accumulated a lot of points before we meet them in the next round of the Conqueror's Cup.

Challenge accepted! :lol:
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby jj3044 on Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:03 am

PaRKoN wrote:
Chariot of Fire wrote:I'm just glad they've now accumulated a lot of points before we meet them in the next round of the Conqueror's Cup.

Challenge accepted! :lol:

We aim to please, Si. :D
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby IcePack on Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:21 pm

The newsletter will have F400 as well as F41, CCCS, leap ladder information when it's released.
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Re: F400 Ranking [Jan 1 Updated]

Postby Chariot of Fire on Fri Jan 03, 2014 9:32 pm

Excuse my ignorance, but what are CCCS and the leap ladder? And will the coaches' poll be in the newsletter?
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