Waterdale Mafia Over Mafia Wins

[Anarkistsdream]

James... what the hell? And to the townies on IBs wagon... I told you not to do that!

Jesus, you people suck.. now, as I have said since the damn first day...

VoTe TWO

I would have withdrawn my vote, but by the time I was back to the game, he had been lynched.

That is another convenient thing to say, regardless of thw truth of the statement.

Theinitial vote against him was ignorant enough...

[new guy1]

James... what the hell? And to the townies on IBs wagon... I told you not to do that!

Jesus, you people suck.. now, as I have said since the damn first day...

VoTe TWO

I would have withdrawn my vote, but by the time I was back to the game, he had been lynched.

That is another convenient thing to say, regardless of thw truth of the statement.

Theinitial vote against him was ignorant enough...

Well, take it as you will. The initial vote got the game moving enough for an extension and for us to split our votes and make a decision. I wont take the ignorant comment to heart too much, I am not the one that hammered with the reasoning "Ill give the reason tomorrow". I purely gave input and a case to go on.

[new guy1]

James... what the hell? And to the townies on IBs wagon... I told you not to do that!

Jesus, you people suck.. now, as I have said since the damn first day...

VoTe TWO

I would have withdrawn my vote, but by the time I was back to the game, he had been lynched.

That is another convenient thing to say, regardless of thw truth of the statement.

Theinitial vote against him was ignorant enough...

Well, take it as you will. The initial vote got the game moving enough for an extension and for us to split our votes and make a decision. I wont take the ignorant comment to heart too much, I am not the one that hammered with the reasoning "Ill give the reason tomorrow". I purely gave input and a case to go on.

Not to mention he hammered with 3 days left till the day ended. How was I supposed to predict that? Oh, someone got IB to L-1? What? I said something having to do with this conversation earlier on Day 2? Where did I say that?

Sorry I havent posted in awhile. I was going to make a post the other day, but decided I couldnt think of anything to say and gave up. I am concerned with getting anyone to L2, because while we would know who scum was with a speedlynch, I dont want to deal with the argument of "I didnt know". I said yesterday I thought IB is scummy, so I will Vote IB. Ill get reasons when I am not so tired. Can probably look at my last few posts and find them so I should have them by tomorrow.

Oh.

[JamesKer1]

I am Town Watcher. Therefore, TWO cannot be cop. I knew one of the two was a fake claim, and out of the two, roleblocker sounded scummiest... Sorry to IB, but his death caught us a mafia.

Night 1 Results: Watch TWO, nothing happened.
Night 2 Results: Watch Nark, nothing happened.

Vote TWO

I have been leaving breadcrumbs to come back to this role throughout the game- I threw out Watcher in a list of possible town roles early on as well as bolding the "h it" in "watch it" at one point. That wasn't a mistake.

[JamesKer1]

So what has been claimed...

James- Town Watcher- Real
TWO- Town Cop- Fake
Nark- VT- Questionable with TWO's cop investigation, saying you were cleared... However, since we have confirmed him Mafia, I believe it
KGB- VT- Possible
New Guy- Nothing (Presumably VT)

New Guy was on IB's lynch train (as was I, I guess) and KGB was leaning towards an IB lynch. Definitely sketchy

[Anarkistsdream]

I am Town Watcher. Therefore, TWO cannot be cop. I knew one of the two was a fake claim, and out of the two, roleblocker sounded scummiest... Sorry to IB, but his death caught us a mafia.

Night 1 Results: Watch TWO, nothing happened.
Night 2 Results: Watch Nark, nothing happened.

Vote TWO

I have been leaving breadcrumbs to come back to this role throughout the game- I threw out Watcher in a list of possible town roles early on as well as bolding the "h it" in "watch it" at one point. That wasn't a mistake.

Good lord I already SAID ALL THIS...

[JamesKer1]

So what has been claimed...

James- Town Watcher- Real
TWO- Town Cop- Fake
Nark- VT- Questionable with TWO's cop investigation, saying you were cleared... However, since we have confirmed him Mafia and you are voting for him at L-1, I believe it (for now)
KGB- VT- Possible
New Guy- Nothing (Presumably VT)

New Guy was on IB's lynch train (as was I, I guess) and KGB was leaning towards an IB lynch. Definitely sketchy

EBWOP



I know Nark, I apologize. You were and are right. Who do you think the last maf is, let's see if you get this right too?

[The Weird One]

I am Town Watcher. Therefore, TWO cannot be cop. I knew one of the two was a fake claim, and out of the two, roleblocker sounded scummiest... Sorry to IB, but his death caught us a mafia.

Night 1 Results: Watch TWO, nothing happened.
Night 2 Results: Watch Nark, nothing happened.

Vote TWO

I have been leaving breadcrumbs to come back to this role throughout the game- I threw out Watcher in a list of possible town roles early on as well as bolding the "h it" in "watch it" at one point. That wasn't a mistake.

So...you're saying that you watched me night one, and you didn't bring this up when I claimed saying that I investigated Nark on N1? Please, can someone else notice this?

Now that that's out of the way: I investigated you, last night, my good sir. It came up red. I shall give my reasons as to why I investigated you when I have a wee bit more time. I presently have about five plus hours worth of playing with equations to get to...I'll post the list of reasons on the morrow, if I'm still conscious, come afternoon.

As to why I am still alive: I have no bloody clue...I honestly wouldn't have thought that there was a doc in this game, but anything's possible...I'd put my money on a noobish mafia for making that assumption that I'd be protected...this, again, leads us to look at James.

As far as the bit about breadcrumbs goes: that's a good strategy for any scum to do to set up a decent claim, later in the game...I applaud you for that. Foresight and whatnot.

I think you overextended yourself in this claim a bit. Vote James for the above reasons.

Now, my dearest Nark, whatever have I done to attract your ire? I'm really at a loss here as to why you're still hounding me...

[The Weird One]

Well, this is embarrassing...It would appear that I was misguided as to what a watcher does. I had it confused with tracker, I think...My apologies for that...That is only the first line of my post, though, and the rest of my post still stands...Also, since I'm posting anew, I might as well add this: James, why did you feel the need to put "Real" after your role in your role assumptions...it's cute, yes, but, really, man; you're trying too hard.


And, to the grammar nazis out there: Yes, I do realize I overuse commas.

[JamesKer1]

BS!!!

My role states that I am only allowed to see who visits my target, not who they visit. I even cleared that up with spies.

I knew this would be a great way for you to play, pin me red, see who everyone else believes... Last time my town role wasn't believed, so I made sure to leave crumbs this time to go back to.

Calling me noobish won't help your case, but as you wish. I AM NOT MAFIA. Call me out on what the exact "mafia" role is, will you? And while you are at it, can you give us Nark's role as well? "No dice" doesn't cut it.

Also to add to my case... Where would I come up with Watcher? I am a noob right? I came up with Mason and Philosopher by reading the Rock and Roll Mafia endgame part, I think I got roleblocker from Neighborhood Mafia or Fir's game. But I have yet to see Watcher.

With that lie about my role, you have confirmed you are scum. I had a small doubt in my mind that town might have been stacked very well, but that suspicion is gone thanks to your fake report on me. Congrats, my vote is on you the rest of the game. But hey, I'm dying tonight for being the real PR, unless the other maf can't kill for some reason, so it doesn't really matter.

Good game everyone, I'm pretty sure I'm dying today, whether by the town's hands or the mafia's. Trust Nark!

[new guy1]

I must say james, I like how you thought to bold words and spell them differently. It gives me a more subtle way to breadcrumb for later games. As far as the cases, I am quite split for various reasons. I dont like how James jumped straight to anarks case. It feels like he is trying to end the day quick, but I guess you would if you knew who scum was. I want to wait till TWO's reasoning before I make any decisions.

[The Weird One]

BS!!!

My role states that I am only allowed to see who visits my target, not who they visit. I even cleared that up with spies.

I knew this would be a great way for you to play, pin me red, see who everyone else believes... Last time my town role wasn't believed, so I made sure to leave crumbs this time to go back to.

Calling me noobish won't help your case, but as you wish. I AM NOT MAFIA. Call me out on what the exact "mafia" role is, will you? And while you are at it, can you give us Nark's role as well? "No dice" doesn't cut it.

Also to add to my case... Where would I come up with Watcher? I am a noob right? I came up with Mason and Philosopher by reading the Rock and Roll Mafia endgame part, I think I got roleblocker from Neighborhood Mafia or Fir's game. But I have yet to see Watcher.

With that lie about my role, you have confirmed you are scum. I had a small doubt in my mind that town might have been stacked very well, but that suspicion is gone thanks to your fake report on me. Congrats, my vote is on you the rest of the game. But hey, I'm dying tonight for being the real PR, unless the other maf can't kill for some reason, so it doesn't really matter.

Good game everyone, I'm pretty sure I'm dying today, whether by the town's hands or the mafia's. Trust Nark!

Green bit first: See my second post. I admit to my mistake and misunderstanding. I got it confused with tracker.

Orange bit second: Mafiascum wiki? [http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roles]...This site is frequently cited, on the CC mafia board.

Blue bit third: You, my fine fellow, are asking for more than I have. I was given naught but alignment. For you, I got Convict, and for Nark, I got Town.

Red bit fourth: Again: See my second post, please.

Well, since it appears that I might not have time before you push this mislynch through, I'll try and assemble my reasoning for investigating you night 2. Hopefully a post shall be coming, shortly.

[JamesKer1]

I must say james, I like how you thought to bold words and spell them differently. It gives me a more subtle way to breadcrumb for later games. As far as the cases, I am quite split for various reasons. I dont like how James jumped straight to anarks case. It feels like he is trying to end the day quick, but I guess you would if you knew who scum was. I want to wait till TWO's reasoning before I make any decisions.

It's above. He called me mafia, still playing the cop.

[JamesKer1]

Green bit first: See my second post. I admit to my mistake and misunderstanding. I got it confused with tracker. What about the second "green bit"?

Orange bit second: Mafiascum wiki? [http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roles]...This site is frequently cited, on the CC mafia board. What CC mafia board?

Blue bit third: You, my fine fellow, are asking for more than I have. I was given naught but alignment. For you, I got Convict, and for Nark, I got Town.

Sadly, that's another smart way to play it. No one besides mafia would know for sure to contradict the Convict naming, and why would they speak up. Not sure that's how spies would make cop work though.

Red bit fourth: Again: See my second post, please. What? I read your posts a few times and saw nothing on this... What makes it false?

Well, since it appears that I might not have time before you push this mislynch through, I'll try and assemble my reasoning for investigating you night 2. Hopefully a post shall be coming, shortly.Oh, and I'm cute for saying that my claim was real vs. your fake one.

[Anarkistsdream]

unvote

[JamesKer1]

unvote

WHAT!?

[The Weird One]

As for my reasons: I was trying to come up with a better way to phrase this, but I can't manage that...and I really don't have the time to dump into formulating thoughts better, right now...You seem to be trying too hard. Your posts come off as flashing around your supposed towniness too much. The second, much larger reason:

Your first post of the day:

Sorry to see you go Greg. Definitely not someone I was expecting...

Your next post was throwing all kinds of accusations at Nark.

Vote nark. Greg was quieter but voted you. Easy way to make it look like you aren't going after someone if you are mafia, but his only substantial vote was against you I believe, maybe one on IB. With the "quick communication", it actually IS important- it suggests how one sided the conversation is. A person who was killed off and on your wagon could save you today.

Also you seem to be pushing to find town power roles... Is that not suspicious?

And on top of all this and the previous suspicion, I REALLY don't like how much your first D2 post pointed to me. I am the only new person here and I post quite a bit... And I am definitely not mafia.

Let's bring back the wagon from where we left off... And don't let nark plead his innocence this time and get it taken off

So...green bit: This -to me- sounds like you had prepared this post the night before, when you were deciding on who to kill. It just sounds to practiced and set up for it to be anything else.

[The Weird One]

Green bit first: See my second post. I admit to my mistake and misunderstanding. I got it confused with tracker. What about the second "green bit"?

I felt that that was covered, as well...Was more bolding for the "with that lie about my role..." than anything else.

Orange bit second: Mafiascum wiki? [http://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Roles]...This site is frequently cited, on the CC mafia board. What CC mafia board?

CC mafia board being this forum on which we are playing...[grammar question: would it be "in which" or "on which"?]

Blue bit third: You, my fine fellow, are asking for more than I have. I was given naught but alignment. For you, I got Convict, and for Nark, I got Town.
Sadly, that's another smart way to play it. No one besides mafia would know for sure to contradict the Convict naming, and why would they speak up. Not sure that's how spies would make cop work though.

Red bit fourth: Again: See my second post, please. What? I read your posts a few times and saw nothing on this... What makes it false?

I'm not saying that your leaving breadcrumbs is false, necessarily. I'm even leaning toward it being true. I'm simply saying that I feel that you left them there in preparation of a future roleclaim...That being said, there is a chance that they are all by happenstance. I'm doubting that.

Well, since it appears that I might not have time before you push this mislynch through, I'll try and assemble my reasoning for investigating you night 2. Hopefully a post shall be coming, shortly.

Oh, and I'm cute for saying that my claim was real vs. your fake one.

Well, I was simply expressing my amusement with your overzealousness of trying to flaunt your alleged towniness.



Does this satisfy you, sir?

[The Weird One]

Sorry for the shoddy formatting with the quotes. 'Twas rushed. And sorry for the triple post.

[JamesKer1]

As for my reasons: I was trying to come up with a better way to phrase this, but I can't manage that...and I really don't have the time to dump into formulating thoughts better, right now...You seem to be trying too hard. Your posts come off as flashing around your supposed towniness too much. The second, much larger reason:

Your first post of the day:

Sorry to see you go Greg. Definitely not someone I was expecting...

Your next post was throwing all kinds of accusations at Nark.

Vote nark. Greg was quieter but voted you. Easy way to make it look like you aren't going after someone if you are mafia, but his only substantial vote was against you I believe, maybe one on IB. With the "quick communication", it actually IS important- it suggests how one sided the conversation is. A person who was killed off and on your wagon could save you today.

Also you seem to be pushing to find town power roles... Is that not suspicious?

And on top of all this and the previous suspicion, I REALLY don't like how much your first D2 post pointed to me. I am the only new person here and I post quite a bit... And I am definitely not mafia.

Let's bring back the wagon from where we left off... And don't let nark plead his innocence this time and get it taken off

So...green bit: This -to me- sounds like you had prepared this post the night before, when you were deciding on who to kill. It just sounds to practiced and set up for it to be anything else.

Why didn't you bring this up then? You had ample time. However, I will do the same thing. Plenty of time for me.

TWO's Quotes of the Game and My Suspicions About Them:

show: Sign Up Post, Confirm, Joke Votes

Clear in my book, not much to be gained.

show: Day 1 After-Joke Votes Period

Break after Page 6 to keep everyone's eyes from hurting , and I'd like to point out that this doesn't match up...

Nark, that has nothing to do with it. I could claim Mafia Goon and it would look realistic.

Either that's really smart thinking on my part (which sadly, it's not), or it furthers my case in being Town. You said I was convict, correct?

show: Day 1 from P7 to Night

DAY 1 ENDS, GREG IS KILLED. NO LYNCH. TWO HAS MADE 1.5 VOTES ON TOWN.

show: Day 2

END OF DAY TWO. LYNCH IB ---> Town RoleBlocker. FIRCOAL KILLED.

Not going to do one for Day 3.

Summary of Serious Votes by TWO and What They Have Claimed:

James- Town Watcher
Nark- VT
KGB- VT
IB- Town Roleblocker

Not Voted by TWO and Still Alive:

New Guy- No Claim

Well, you see where I am going from there... Nark, you are right, trust yourself. You've got NG and TWO pinned, why the change?





READ THE ABOVE SECTION NOT IN SPOILERS IF YOU ARE GOING TO SKIM. And assume that I went through all of TWO's posts and pointed out a ton of stuff wrong (which I did).

I will only be satisfied when the town wins TWO. And you, sir, are keeping that from happening.

[new guy1]

Im intrigued to see how you got from TWO being scum to TWO and I being scum, so I would like that information. You are drawing me to believe nark and you are scum, as with the evidence you just supplied, it is not in my best interest to lynch TWO. He probably unvoted because you put TWO at L1, and that is scummy in anyone's book. You are single handedly putting us into groups that you have no way of confirming (except through posts, which I have not made myself connected to anyone) and expecting KGB to pick between us. You have been with nark this whole game, so I dont know who you think you're convincing, but you may want to change your thought process. TWO made a good counter argument, and you tried to pick it apart. I will get sleep on it and reevaluate tomorrow, I want to read the whole day again to see what I find.

[JamesKer1]

Im intrigued to see how you got from TWO being scum to TWO and I being scum, so I would like that information. You are drawing me to believe nark and you are scum, as with the evidence you just supplied, it is not in my best interest to lynch TWO. He probably unvoted because you put TWO at L1, and that is scummy in anyone's book. You are single handedly putting us into groups that you have no way of confirming (except through posts, which I have not made myself connected to anyone) and expecting KGB to pick between us. You have been with nark this whole game, so I dont know who you think you're convincing, but you may want to change your thought process. TWO made a good counter argument, and you tried to pick it apart. I will get sleep on it and reevaluate tomorrow, I want to read the whole day again to see what I find.

Sorry NG, only threw the hint out there of my suspicions. I don't have much to back them on, just what I noticed out of all of this looking over TWO's posts- he has never really said anything bad about you. TWO is convincing, I'd say so myself, so I fear this game may be over when I wake up if I'm lynched. Wanted to post everything going on in my messed up head.

It is always in your best interest to lynch TWO though.

[new guy1]

Im intrigued to see how you got from TWO being scum to TWO and I being scum, so I would like that information. You are drawing me to believe nark and you are scum, as with the evidence you just supplied, it is not in my best interest to lynch TWO. He probably unvoted because you put TWO at L1, and that is scummy in anyone's book. You are single handedly putting us into groups that you have no way of confirming (except through posts, which I have not made myself connected to anyone) and expecting KGB to pick between us. You have been with nark this whole game, so I dont know who you think you're convincing, but you may want to change your thought process. TWO made a good counter argument, and you tried to pick it apart. I will get sleep on it and reevaluate tomorrow, I want to read the whole day again to see what I find.

Sorry NG, only threw the hint out there of my suspicions. I don't have much to back them on, just what I noticed out of all of this looking over TWO's posts- he has never really said anything bad about you. TWO is convincing, I'd say so myself, so I fear this game may be over when I wake up if I'm lynched. Wanted to post everything going on in my messed up head.

It is always in your best interest to lynch TWO though.

Im not going to vote you and get you lynched before you can give a rebuttal. Again, I am coming back to the game tomorrow after my classes to see if I can tell whose lying. If TWO is scum, and this goes for both Anark and James, then whose his scum buddy?

[Anarkistsdream]

Im not going to vote you and get you lynched before you can give a rebuttal. Again, I am coming back to the game tomorrow after my classes to see if I can tell whose lying. If TWO is scum, and this goes for both Anark and James, then whose his scum buddy?

You or KGB...

[new guy1]

Im not going to vote you and get you lynched before you can give a rebuttal. Again, I am coming back to the game tomorrow after my classes to see if I can tell whose lying. If TWO is scum, and this goes for both Anark and James, then whose his scum buddy?

You or KGB...

I figured. Are those in order of scumminess? Or the opposite? Just wondering.