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Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:10 am

Any thoughts?

Its on the medals page.

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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby josko.ri on Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:22 am

In my opinion, official tournaments hosted by CC?
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby JamesKer1 on Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:35 am

Ask DoomY. He already has hosted some challenges unofficially.

I think one of them was like win 4 times 1v1 on Madagascar map in a week, but that was one of the easier ones.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby Teflon Kris on Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:36 am

josko.ri wrote:In my opinion, official tournaments hosted by CC?


I thought that but then, some official tournaments have appeared since the medal icon and there is no mention of the new medal.

In the lacksadaisical era, we were used to half-finished jobs but there is more dynamism these days so I would imagine the medal would have been made actual,announced and made a prize for these tournaments if that were the intention (given that granting of the medals would be similar to GAs and tournament medals and require minimal extra coding when other new, more complex medals were introduced at the last update)?
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby betiko on Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:50 am

JamesKer1 wrote:Ask DoomY. He already has hosted some challenges unofficially.

I think one of them was like win 4 times 1v1 on Madagascar map in a week, but that was one of the easier ones.


This. He gives you the correct answer and you ignore it ;)
Doomyoshi will give monthly/weekly challenges in the callout section, that s what he did, and i guess it kind of died because no one was actually winning the promised medals... As they didn t exist at the time.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby DoomYoshi on Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:58 am

The Entertainment Team is in charge of handing them out now, AFAIk. I will go ask.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby Teflon Kris on Sun Oct 27, 2013 6:23 am

betiko wrote:
JamesKer1 wrote:Ask DoomY. He already has hosted some challenges unofficially.

I think one of them was like win 4 times 1v1 on Madagascar map in a week, but that was one of the easier ones.


This. He gives you the correct answer and you ignore it ;)
Doomyoshi will give monthly/weekly challenges in the callout section, that s what he did, and i guess it kind of died because no one was actually winning the promised medals... As they didn t exist at the time.


He didn't give an answer that made any logical sense so required no response - hosting anything 'unofficially' is never going to lead to any medals.

Except in your parrallel universe where you make all the rules up for everything after the event of course.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Oct 27, 2013 12:20 pm

I hosted challenges unofficially so people could get a sense of how the challenges would work out. Since there were no medals, not a lot of people joined in.

Now we have medals. I just don`t have the authority to hand them out.

I will try to keep everyone posted on developments here.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby betiko on Sun Oct 27, 2013 1:56 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:I hosted challenges unofficially so people could get a sense of how the challenges would work out. Since there were no medals, not a lot of people joined in.

Now we have medals. I just don`t have the authority to hand them out.

I will try to keep everyone posted on developments here.


Thanks doom! To tell the truth at that time i had a good score so didn t try your challenges to avoid a big point drop, as there was no prize guaranteed. Don t really care anymore lol!
So people who achieved your old challenges should get a medal reward? Damn, should ve done them! :D

Also; are you, or is the entertainment team going to create new challenges?
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby betiko on Sun Oct 27, 2013 2:00 pm

Teflon Kris wrote:
betiko wrote:
JamesKer1 wrote:Ask DoomY. He already has hosted some challenges unofficially.

I think one of them was like win 4 times 1v1 on Madagascar map in a week, but that was one of the easier ones.


This. He gives you the correct answer and you ignore it ;)
Doomyoshi will give monthly/weekly challenges in the callout section, that s what he did, and i guess it kind of died because no one was actually winning the promised medals... As they didn t exist at the time.


He didn't give an answer that made any logical sense so required no response - hosting anything 'unofficially' is never going to lead to any medals.

Except in your parrallel universe where you make all the rules up for everything after the event of course.


If you don't read the suggestion forum, or the callout forum or the newsletter you shouldn't ignore with despise people who take the time to give you an answer.
The entertainment team told him to go ahead and host his challenges as it would take time to create challenge medals. I don t make rules up, and i don t know which one of us is from a parallel universe.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby DoomYoshi on Sun Oct 27, 2013 3:39 pm

No, the medals aren`t being rewarded retroactively. Any medal assignment will start from here forth I imagine.

Assigning the challenges is still a work in progress. How the system is going to work is still unclear.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby Teflon Kris on Sun Nov 03, 2013 8:31 am

betiko wrote:
Teflon Kris wrote:
betiko wrote:
JamesKer1 wrote:Ask DoomY. He already has hosted some challenges unofficially.

I think one of them was like win 4 times 1v1 on Madagascar map in a week, but that was one of the easier ones.


This. He gives you the correct answer and you ignore it ;)
Doomyoshi will give monthly/weekly challenges in the callout section, that s what he did, and i guess it kind of died because no one was actually winning the promised medals... As they didn t exist at the time.


He didn't give an answer that made any logical sense so required no response - hosting anything 'unofficially' is never going to lead to any medals.

Except in your parrallel universe where you make all the rules up for everything after the event of course.


If you don't read the suggestion forum, or the callout forum or the newsletter you shouldn't ignore with despise people who take the time to give you an answer.
The entertainment team told him to go ahead and host his challenges as it would take time to create challenge medals. I don t make rules up, and i don t know which one of us is from a parallel universe.


If you communicate with other people you should use logic!!!

Something cant be official and unofficial at the same time.

You may as well make monkey noises.

Scratch that, even pig runts are too intelligent, make it dog barks, from some twisted freak-of-nature panting rotveiler, or whatever else fascist morons use to make up for their lack of prowess,in anything.

P.S. After your next scratch and bone (or child's leg, depending on your owners' menu for lunch), look-up despise in the dictionnary, challenging illogic is not an indicator of despising!
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby BoganGod on Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:05 am

Teflon Kris wrote:
betiko wrote:
Teflon Kris wrote:
betiko wrote:
JamesKer1 wrote:Ask DoomY. He already has hosted some challenges unofficially.

I think one of them was like win 4 times 1v1 on Madagascar map in a week, but that was one of the easier ones.


This. He gives you the correct answer and you ignore it ;)
Doomyoshi will give monthly/weekly challenges in the callout section, that s what he did, and i guess it kind of died because no one was actually winning the promised medals... As they didn t exist at the time.


He didn't give an answer that made any logical sense so required no response - hosting anything 'unofficially' is never going to lead to any medals.

Except in your parrallel universe where you make all the rules up for everything after the event of course.


If you don't read the suggestion forum, or the callout forum or the newsletter you shouldn't ignore with despise people who take the time to give you an answer.
The entertainment team told him to go ahead and host his challenges as it would take time to create challenge medals. I don t make rules up, and i don t know which one of us is from a parallel universe.


If you communicate with other people you should use logic!!!

Something cant be official and unofficial at the same time.

You may as well make monkey noises.

Scratch that, even pig runts are too intelligent, make it dog barks, from some twisted freak-of-nature panting rotveiler, or whatever else fascist morons use to make up for their lack of prowess,in anything.

P.S. After your next scratch and bone (or child's leg, depending on your owners' menu for lunch), look-up despise in the dictionnary, challenging illogic is not an indicator of despising!


Jesus wept! I laughed. The rest of the Gods were merely indifferent. Looks like both of you went to the HardAttack school to learn how to bugger the english language until it expires from rectal prolapse and blood loss. I know that kris is doing so deliberately to make a point. What is the excuse of the other poor benighted chinless wonder?

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Words posters in this thread need to look up

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official, officially, unofficial, unofficially, officious
contradictory, contradiction
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retrospective, retroactive
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answer - Please I beg of you, read and understand what constitutes an answer. Quoting here "You shouldn't ignore with despise people who take the time to give you an answer." I see no answers of note, those that spent their time, wasted it.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby sempaispellcheck on Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:40 am

BoganGod wrote:What is the excuse of the other poor benighted chinless wonder?

betiko's native language is French, not English. I will admit that his English is better than that of some of the other French speakers on CC.
Keep in mind that he also speaks Spanish - it is not easy to attain perfect fluency in 3 languages.

To be honest, I do think you blew that a bit out of proportion - though I wouldn't be surprised if that was your intention (knowing what little I do about you).

ON TOPIC: DoomYoshi will be working with the Entertainment Team to run Official Challenges in the style of the unofficial challenges he ran in March, April, and May. Each player who meets one of these challenges will be awarded a Challenge Medal.
Challenge Medals will not be awarded retroactively, so those unofficial challenges will remain unofficial.
The details are still being worked out - when they have been set, a proper announcement will be made.

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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby BoganGod on Mon Nov 04, 2013 4:10 pm

sempaispellcheck wrote:
BoganGod wrote:What is the excuse of the other poor benighted chinless wonder?

betiko's native language is French, not English. I will admit that his English is better than that of some of the other French speakers on CC.
Keep in mind that he also speaks Spanish - it is not easy to attain perfect fluency in 3 languages.

To be honest, I do think you blew that a bit out of proportion - though I wouldn't be surprised if that was your intention (knowing what little I do about you).

ON TOPIC: DoomYoshi will be working with the Entertainment Team to run Official Challenges in the style of the unofficial challenges he ran in March, April, and May. Each player who meets one of these challenges will be awarded a Challenge Medal.
Challenge Medals will not be awarded retroactively, so those unofficial challenges will remain unofficial.
The details are still being worked out - when they have been set, a proper announcement will be made.

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This approaches being a valid and useful answer. Couldn't give a monkey's how many languages betiko speaks/violates his/her/its written skills are better elsewhere on site. Often a person's written skills will exceed their verbal competency. I have a German friend proof read my resume, as his education in english is more recent than mine he pays more attention to the formatting and grammar than I can. Speaking French like a canadian, and Spanish like a Cuban is just to widen one's potential to piss people off. Like most Belgians assume betiko is unintentionally funny.

So officially these achievements won't be retrospective, and were rolled out before even basic due diligence, work shopping or beta testing. Sounds like a return to the bad old days of act first, think never.

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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby Teflon Kris on Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:40 pm

Alors, la logique, c'est la meme chose pour les francophones.

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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby Teflon Kris on Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:47 pm

Although the original response was not an actual full answer (dans le sens logique), information derived from the dicsussion and another discussion in another topic has now answered the original question.

There may in fact be official challenges, as not explained by LargeTeepee in the latest update.

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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby betiko on Tue Nov 05, 2013 8:21 pm

Je vais donc continuer en français afin de ne plus massacrer la langue de Shakespear et afin d'éviter de heurter certains esprits sensibles.
Tu poses une question à laquelle un modérateur te répond et tu l'ignores. Je suis d'accord, c'était une réponse étrange et mal exprimée. Cependant, elle n'avait rien d'illogique comme tu sembles sous entendre. Du moins je savais qu il disait vrai étant donné que j'ai suivi comme lui cette idée dans le forum de suggestions dont il est modérateur. Bref, toute cette conversation est assez inutile, mais au moins on en sait un peu plus sur le coeur du sujet.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby Dukasaur on Tue Nov 05, 2013 9:25 pm

BoganGod wrote:So officially these achievements won't be retrospective, and were rolled out before even basic due diligence, work shopping or beta testing. Sounds like a return to the bad old days of act first, think never.

That's a complete misrepresentation. "Rolled out" implies that this was some initiative of the administration, which it was not. DoomYoshi made it perfectly clear in the original program that he was acting entirely on his own with no official status or sanction.

It's the same way many things started on CC. When tournaments began, people just organised them on a ad-hoc basis in the forums and sent each other game numbers and stuff. The codifying of rules for tournaments, the creation of tournament medals and the appointment of a tournament Commissioner were things that happened later. When people started banding into "clans" it was entirely an ad-hoc thing in the forums; the creation of a Clan bureaucracy and medals for clan wars were a later development. When wacicha started the Society of Cooks it was just a bunch of people he talked to in game chat. It took time before it got official status or recognition of any kind.

None of the above were "rolled out" in the sense of being planned by the administration. All of them just evolved from informal things that were happening between people in the forums acting without official status. So too with Doom's challenges. They are perhaps unique in that the idea is going to be adopted in an official sense without ever having gone through an intermediate stage of being wildly popular like tourneys and clans were before the administration absorbed them. Perhaps that means that the administrations have gotten better at spotting a good idea and declaring a protectorate over it before it gets out of hand. It certainly doesn't mean that anyone is acting without thinking.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby spiesr on Tue Nov 05, 2013 10:33 pm

I believe that was referring to the medals being implemented and announce with what appears to be insufficient setup of the actually process of awarding them. Meaning, the medal was made, but plans on how to hand it out were lacking. That might not actually be the case, but it is how it appears to one reading this thread.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby BoganGod on Wed Nov 06, 2013 1:45 am

spiesr wrote:I believe that was referring to the medals being implemented and announce with what appears to be insufficient setup of the actually process of awarding them. Meaning, the medal was made, but plans on how to hand it out were lacking. That might not actually be the case, but it is how it appears to one reading this thread.


Correct, my little dinosaur buddy tends to get a bit reactive. Over reactive even.
Something you would never find me doing. I never exaggerate, or over react for illustrative purposes. Reading the responses from people with pretty coloured usernames. This medal was announced without A) How to get the medal B) ANY ONE including those to issue the medal having a clue how and why to issue said medal.

Can we all agree that that was an act of act first, think after.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:02 am

BoganGod wrote:
spiesr wrote:I believe that was referring to the medals being implemented and announce with what appears to be insufficient setup of the actually process of awarding them. Meaning, the medal was made, but plans on how to hand it out were lacking. That might not actually be the case, but it is how it appears to one reading this thread.


Correct, my little dinosaur buddy tends to get a bit reactive. Over reactive even.
Something you would never find me doing. I never exaggerate, or over react for illustrative purposes. Reading the responses from people with pretty coloured usernames. This medal was announced without A) How to get the medal B) ANY ONE including those to issue the medal having a clue how and why to issue said medal.

Can we all agree that that was an act of act first, think after.

Well, then, I misunderstood what you were saying, but you are still incorrect.

The medal has not been announced. It is shown on the medals page, but that's preparatory to being activated. If you recall, the polymorph medal was the same. It was visible on the medals page about 10 days before polymorphic games were introduced. That's just a matter of the development team making sure their ducks are in order before releasing the final package. So, if the pattern holds true, I would expect the official announcment of challenges to be in the next big update, about 10 days from now, give or take a few.

In this thread here's been a lot of people misunderstanding what is being asked and answering the wrong question (myself included) but if we get back to the OP, what someone should have said to Teflon's original question was "wait for the official release and find out."
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby BoganGod on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:08 am

Dukasaur wrote:
BoganGod wrote:
spiesr wrote:I believe that was referring to the medals being implemented and announce with what appears to be insufficient setup of the actually process of awarding them. Meaning, the medal was made, but plans on how to hand it out were lacking. That might not actually be the case, but it is how it appears to one reading this thread.


Correct, my little dinosaur buddy tends to get a bit reactive. Over reactive even.
Something you would never find me doing. I never exaggerate, or over react for illustrative purposes. Reading the responses from people with pretty coloured usernames. This medal was announced without A) How to get the medal B) ANY ONE including those to issue the medal having a clue how and why to issue said medal.

Can we all agree that that was an act of act first, think after.

Well, then, I misunderstood what you were saying, but you are still incorrect.

The medal has not been announced. It is shown on the medals page, but that's preparatory to being activated. If you recall, the polymorph medal was the same. It was visible on the medals page about 10 days before polymorphic games were introduced. That's just a matter of the development team making sure their ducks are in order before releasing the final package. So, if the pattern holds true, I would expect the official announcment of challenges to be in the next big update, about 10 days from now, give or take a few.

In this thread here's been a lot of people misunderstanding what is being asked and answering the wrong question (myself included) but if we get back to the OP, what someone should have said to Teflon's original question was "wait for the official release and find out."


asdfklasdf dasdfl;asdjfasdfy we pwef70hpal2 sadfasdv-98y=23r sadfasdf-09u - You can see it but not understand it.... Same with the medal. Why put it up if your not going to explain it? So now the story has changed again........ So many back flips your head must be spinning. Now it was all a teaser, wait and see you say.

Meh, no one knows what is going on, something is shown which is not available, most people with colourful user names are just beating off into the wind me thinks.
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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby Dukasaur on Wed Nov 06, 2013 2:19 am

BoganGod wrote:Meh, no one knows what is going on, something is shown which is not available, most people with colourful user names are just beating off into the wind me thinks.


Are you being deliberately obtuse?

The answers have been clear and consistent:
Subject: Challenge Achievement

DoomYoshi wrote:Assigning the challenges is still a work in progress. How the system is going to work is still unclear.


Subject: Challenge Achievement

sempaispellcheck wrote:The details are still being worked out - when they have been set, a proper announcement will be made.


This is an update which has not yet been released, ergo, not all the details have been finalised. When you ask questions about something that doesn't exist yet, don't be surprised if every detail is not yet known with certainty.

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Re: Challenge Achievement

Postby BoganGod on Wed Nov 06, 2013 9:26 am

Dukasaur wrote:
BoganGod wrote:Meh, no one knows what is going on, something is shown which is not available, most people with colourful user names are just beating off into the wind me thinks.


Are you being deliberately obtuse?

The answers have been clear and consistent:
Subject: Challenge Achievement

DoomYoshi wrote:Assigning the challenges is still a work in progress. How the system is going to work is still unclear.


Subject: Challenge Achievement

sempaispellcheck wrote:The details are still being worked out - when they have been set, a proper announcement will be made.


This is an update which has not yet been released, ergo, not all the details have been finalised. When you ask questions about something that doesn't exist yet, don't be surprised if every detail is not yet known with certainty. When something that does not exist shows up on our screens, that is proof of existence. My POINT WHICH YOUR MISSING, maybe because your being deliberately obtuse and congenitally dense. Don't roll out, pre roll out, put on screen, anything that you don't know how it is going to work. Simple right?

If you just want to argue for the sake of arguing, you have to buy me a diamond ring.


As to the diamond ring. Darling if I was into small goods I would be a butcher not a chef. Call me when your past puberty! Just once more in case you missed it. I'm a chef not a priest. Like my prospective life/bed partners to be old enough to drive.

If it doesn't work, you don't know what it is going to be, or how you are going to do it when you work out what it will be. May I humbly suggest that you don't list it as an option.

Imagine if you will me writing a menu. On that menu I put - Pickled chicken teeth in a eels feet and spider wing reduction. With essence of tiger hoof and sautéed emu swim bladder.
Now assuming I have very non politically correct and highly adventuresome customers. A customer goes to order the dish described above. The waiter tells the customer "sorry we don't have any available at present". Customer enquires as to when the dish is likely to be available. Waiter replies "Dish has never been available, the chef doesn't even know how to make the dish."

Pretty silly right? Hopefully I don't have to paint the rest of the picture, I'm sure at least some of those reading this can understand the analogy.
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