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CHRISTIANS SHOULD CONFORM TO THE WORLD!

Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 16, 2007 6:29 pm

Lets start a thread on why Christians should not hold to their outdated, intolerant views. Why Christians should adapt to the world today. Why they should "just do what everyone else is doing".
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Postby sfhbballnut on Wed May 16, 2007 6:30 pm

since when do all Christians have outdated intolerant views? and since when has the rest of the world been tolerant?
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Postby Backglass on Wed May 16, 2007 6:31 pm

What is this now...christian thread #37? :roll:

Geez jay, if you would channel this posting effort of yours into stopping smoking, you would have been clean & sober by now. ;)
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Re: CHRISTIANS SHOULD CONFORM TO THE WORLD!

Postby Colaalone on Wed May 16, 2007 6:37 pm

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Postby Jafnhár on Wed May 16, 2007 6:37 pm

What? Since when do all Christians have hold outdated, intolerant views, jay? This really looks like just another Christian-bashing thread. Pathetic.

This was sarcasm, moron.
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Re: CHRISTIANS SHOULD CONFORM TO THE WORLD!

Postby Huckleberryhound on Wed May 16, 2007 6:39 pm

jay_a2j wrote:Lets start a thread on why Christians should not hold to their outdated, intolerant views. Why Christians should adapt to the world today. Why they should "just do what everyone else is doing".


They can hold whatever views they want, just don't force them on me, that's all.
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Re: CHRISTIANS SHOULD CONFORM TO THE WORLD!

Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 16, 2007 6:45 pm

Huckleberryhound wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Lets start a thread on why Christians should not hold to their outdated, intolerant views. Why Christians should adapt to the world today. Why they should "just do what everyone else is doing".


They can hold whatever views they want, just don't force them on me, that's all.




but, but, but thats what WE are saying with the showing of Brokeback Mountain in school. This will never do.... I'd like some reasonable, well thought out views on why we Christians should not force our beliefs on others, but the world can force theirs on us. Come on, there must be some takers!
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Postby sfhbballnut on Wed May 16, 2007 6:49 pm

um.....wth?
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Postby Aegnor on Wed May 16, 2007 6:49 pm

Because no one really gives a f*ck about some bearded guy who died 2000 years ago? Now stop making religion threads, it's stupid and unproductive. Show me one case in which someone has changed their mind after participating in such thread.
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 16, 2007 7:03 pm

Aegnor wrote:Because no one really gives a f*ck about some bearded guy who died 2000 years ago? Now stop making religion threads, it's stupid and unproductive. Show me one case in which someone has changed their mind after participating in such thread.



Show me a Christian who has become an atheist because he/she was ruthlessly bashed? :shock:
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Postby freezie on Wed May 16, 2007 7:05 pm

This is THE question we should asnwer.


Why can't we ALL get along for once?




( Before saying anything against me...I am not religious and I wouldn't even if my life depended on it..)
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Postby Aegnor on Wed May 16, 2007 7:05 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Because no one really gives a f*ck about some bearded guy who died 2000 years ago? Now stop making religion threads, it's stupid and unproductive. Show me one case in which someone has changed their mind after participating in such thread.



Show me a Christian who has become an atheist because he/she was ruthlessly bashed? :shock:




1) Someone has to be really ignorant to be an atheist. (You can't disprove god just as you can't prove it.)
2) I consider myself agnostic, and I don't expect you to convert your religion, I just don't give a f*ck about it. So stop talking about religion.

There, your logic is now fixed.
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 16, 2007 7:12 pm

Aegnor wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Because no one really gives a f*ck about some bearded guy who died 2000 years ago? Now stop making religion threads, it's stupid and unproductive. Show me one case in which someone has changed their mind after participating in such thread.



Show me a Christian who has become an atheist because he/she was ruthlessly bashed? :shock:




1) Someone has to be really ignorant to be an atheist.



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Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 16, 2007 7:12 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Aegnor wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Because no one really gives a f*ck about some bearded guy who died 2000 years ago? Now stop making religion threads, it's stupid and unproductive. Show me one case in which someone has changed their mind after participating in such thread.



Show me a Christian who has become an atheist because he/she was ruthlessly bashed? :shock:




1) Someone has to be really ignorant to be an atheist.



*deleats above quote before backglass reads it
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 16, 2007 7:13 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Aegnor wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:
Aegnor wrote:Because no one really gives a f*ck about some bearded guy who died 2000 years ago? Now stop making religion threads, it's stupid and unproductive. Show me one case in which someone has changed their mind after participating in such thread.



Show me a Christian who has become an atheist because he/she was ruthlessly bashed? :shock:




1) Someone has to be really ignorant to be an atheist.



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Postby sfhbballnut on Wed May 16, 2007 7:14 pm

there is very little since being made here all around. I'm gonna stay out
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Postby Aegnor on Wed May 16, 2007 7:14 pm

Don't misquote me. I also said you can't disprove god, but you can't prove it either.

Next time you misquote me I'll call you a liar. And that's a sin in your religion.
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Postby Backglass on Wed May 16, 2007 7:16 pm

Aegnor wrote:Don't misquote me. I also said you can't disprove god, but you can't prove it either.

Next time you misquote me I'll call you a liar. And that's a sin in your religion.


It's a favorite tactic of the christian right...change the words of someone in an attempt to discredit them.

Glad to see it doesn't work here either. :lol:
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Postby jay_a2j on Wed May 16, 2007 7:17 pm

Aegnor wrote:Don't misquote me. I also said you can't disprove god, but you can't prove it either.

Next time you misquote me I'll call you a liar. And that's a sin in your religion.



If anyone wants to read "what you also said" they can scroll UP. Its not a mis-quote, its a partial quote. And the meaning of those words REMAIN the same!


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Postby Aegnor on Wed May 16, 2007 7:20 pm

We can argue about semantics until hell freezes over, it's futile and it's stupid. Religion threads are even more stupid. That's why we should stop posting here.
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Re: CHRISTIANS SHOULD CONFORM TO THE WORLD!

Postby gimpyThewonder on Wed May 16, 2007 7:26 pm

jay_a2j wrote:
Huckleberryhound wrote:
jay_a2j wrote:Lets start a thread on why Christians should not hold to their outdated, intolerant views. Why Christians should adapt to the world today. Why they should "just do what everyone else is doing".

They can hold whatever views they want, just don't force them on me, that's all.


but, but, but thats what WE are saying with the showing of Brokeback Mountain in school. This will never do.... I'd like some reasonable, well thought out views on why we Christians should not force our beliefs on others, but the world can force theirs on us. Come on, there must be some takers!


The word is tolerance, or perhaps compasion. You know the things Jesus actually preached about. For someone w/ a giant banner about jesus on every post you seem to be awfuly ignorant of his actual teachings. Instead you get your viewpoints from televangelists and foxnews. read your scripture dude and stop giving people who believe that Jesus was one of the greatest teachers the world has ever seen a bad name. you make me sad.
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Postby Jafnhár on Wed May 16, 2007 7:32 pm

Aegnor wrote:1) Someone has to be really ignorant to be an atheist. (You can't disprove god just as you can't prove it.)


The most common answer to that is an apagogical argument. For example, Santa Claus existence can't be disproved, nor the Invisible Pink Unicorn's. These beings don't exist however, but with the very same argument you used, you cannot rule out the possibility that they do indeed exist.

Not being an atheist myself, I have no good answer to that. Do you?
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Postby Aegnor on Wed May 16, 2007 7:34 pm

Jafnhár wrote:
Aegnor wrote:1) Someone has to be really ignorant to be an atheist. (You can't disprove god just as you can't prove it.)


The most common answer to that is an apagogical argument. For example, Santa Claus existence can't be disproved, nor the Invisible Pink Unicorn's. These beings don't exist however, but with the very same argument you used, you cannot rule out the possibility that they do indeed exist.

Not being an atheist myself, I have no good answer to that. Do you?



Sure I do, but it's long and boring, and I can't be arsed to discuss this subject. Take a philosophy course if you're that interested in that matter.
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Re: CHRISTIANS SHOULD CONFORM TO THE WORLD!

Postby Aimless on Wed May 16, 2007 7:46 pm

jay_a2j wrote:Lets start a thread on why Leftists should not hold to their outdated, intolerant views. Why Leftists should adapt to the world today. Why they should "just do what everyone else is doing".


Fixed.
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Postby Jafnhár on Wed May 16, 2007 8:07 pm

Aegnor wrote:
Jafnhár wrote:
Aegnor wrote:1) Someone has to be really ignorant to be an atheist. (You can't disprove god just as you can't prove it.)


The most common answer to that is an apagogical argument. For example, Santa Claus existence can't be disproved, nor the Invisible Pink Unicorn's. These beings don't exist however, but with the very same argument you used, you cannot rule out the possibility that they do indeed exist.

Not being an atheist myself, I have no good answer to that. Do you?



Sure I do, but it's long and boring, and I can't be arsed to discuss this subject. Take a philosophy course if you're that interested in that matter.


I do think that people should support their opinions with logical arguments or else not express them, especially when attacking a group of people (in this case claiming that atheists are ignorant). Do not urge me to search for the matter elsewhere, I'm answering you and expecting an answer from you. After all, it was you that started the discussion of this particular subject.
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