A Darker Shade of Black Mafia [6/14] Endgame:Rebuilding

by **strike wolf** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:17 pm

Can we have the vote counts done in the order of who voted them first?

by **rishaed** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:31 pm

Hmm. Its a legit request, I'm currently using SG's Mafia VC to keep things in line right now. I'll see what I can do for you.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:41 pm

edocsil wrote:Vote neb

Don't bother asking for a long pointless post. Look at his last 3 posts and think if that is really pro town behavior.

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1. I LOLed when saw edoc.s vote...he likes voting me.
2. I LOLed even more, when I saw that he got two others to jump with him.
3. You guys lynch me...who will keep this game interesting?

by **edocsil** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 2:44 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
edocsil wrote:Vote neb

Don't bother asking for a long pointless post. Look at his last 3 posts and think if that is really pro town behavior.
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1. I LOLed when saw edoc.s vote...he likes voting me.
2. I LOLed even more, when I saw that he got two others to jump with him.
3. You guys lynch me...who will keep this game interesting?

I would suggest going back and doing some critical analysis of what you wrote. The case is serious, and if you don't understand why you should think about it for a bit. I doubt you will be able to just brush this off with humor.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:01 pm

edocsil wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
edocsil wrote:Vote neb

Don't bother asking for a long pointless post. Look at his last 3 posts and think if that is really pro town behavior.
.
1. I LOLed when saw edoc.s vote...he likes voting me.
2. I LOLed even more, when I saw that he got two others to jump with him.
3. You guys lynch me...who will keep this game interesting?

I would suggest going back and doing some critical analysis of what you wrote. The case is serious, and if you don't understand why you should think about it for a bit. I doubt you will be able to just brush this off with humor.

Oh, I get it...or I think I do. Mention random voting as your reason to vote and you're scum. Vote more than one person in a serious way on day one , and you're scum.

I begin to see why doomyoshi only posts one liners.

by **Djfireside** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:37 pm

I will play nicely I promise. I have gotten past some of the things that are bottling me up but as for tyhe case on Neb, its D1 and he is waffling around but thats what you do on day 1. I dont see a problem with it however since pressure has to go one way or the other I will play along. I figured I would have had more pressure and was just to going to absent claim but feel I can cover my own now

by **Djfireside** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 3:38 pm

Vote Neb Reason? Its Day 1! What friggin reason is there really to be had from experienced people?!?

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:48 pm

Djfireside wrote:Vote Neb Reason? Its Day 1! What friggin reason is there really to be had from experienced people?!?

I don't understand the question.

by **edocsil** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 4:57 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
Djfireside wrote:Vote Neb Reason? Its Day 1! What friggin reason is there really to be had from experienced people?!?

I don't understand the question.

He is making fun of me and strike

by **edocsil** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:03 pm

edocsil wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
Djfireside wrote:Vote Neb Reason? Its Day 1! What friggin reason is there really to be had from experienced people?!?

I don't understand the question.

He is making fun of me and strike

I should elaborate. Most competent players should realize that you made a poor strawman here:

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Now you're jumping on Edoc's ridiculous tirade of "let's not pressure anyone day 1"??? That is ridiculous...

UNVOTE VOTE aage

I would vote Edoc, but he's basically asking us to vote for him, so I won't comply. For Aage to come in and try to sound saintly like the rest of us are a bunch of idiots for actually voting is out of place. Poor form, mate. Poor form.

It was ABUNDANTLY clear that I was mocking the validity of the case people were so happy to wagon, not that I think that people shouldn't vote D1.

Also flaming Aage for zero purpose. The common attitude in this thread deserved to be called out, and he did so. If you still don't realize why....

And here

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
StubbsKVM wrote:unvote, vote DJ

Looks like someone's lurking.

Lol...so someone gets voted for not posting. Then he posts, so we vote him some more for posting? I see the excellent logic at work here. Looks like a random bandwagon it is...Vote DJ

Randoms are unacceptable you voted without purpose, and you are scum.

by **aage** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 5:56 pm

Nebuchadnezer wrote:I begin to see why doomyoshi only posts one liners.

Unrelated to this game, I believe this is actually an excellent strategy, especially during day one, since there rarely is anything of note to post. People trying to pretend otherwise usually have something they are trying to hide.

Related to the game, I really don't care about the flaming since you're quite capable of digging your own grave with it.

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
strike wolf wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
strike wolf wrote:Overreactions are also poor form.

Perhaps. Should we all just say how terrible D1 is, and how everyone is dumb for voting randomly?

No. Should we overreact and vote everyone who doesn't agree with the case that you bandwagoned onto to begin with?

No. Did I vote everyone who doesn't agree with me? Or did I vote the player that that mimicked another player exactly?

This post I take most offence to. I already pointed out my vote on Stubbs. A five second thread search would've yielded you all his posts and explained my stance on the subject, and why I very much don't believe it was an excellent wagon. If anything, Edoc mimicked me, but I can't claim authenticity with such lack of (in my opinion irrelevant) explanation for my vote, and even without it he would've posted the same since the wagon was so obviously wrong.

by **strike wolf** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:12 pm

I would even go beyond what edoc and aage have pointed out and just note the hypocrisy of someone who mimicked 4 other people's vote in a blatant bandwagon post calling aage out for mimicking a player who was going against the grain in the thread.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 6:31 pm

Ouch. I've been spanked! I will go to bed without my dinner...

But seriously, I'm a bit slow, so I appreciate you guys spelling it out for me. NOW I get it. Yup. I cheesed this up for sure. However, I am not scum. Just a bored townie. I'm still not sure how anything gets done on day one without someone like me to come in and throw a grenade and then jump on it...Aage's case was NOT obvious, or everyone would have been voting Stubbs. Hell, had I simply voted DJ, without posting my cute comments, he would have most likely had to claim. So, I say again, without the dunce in the game, how would anything get accomplished? :oops:

Oh, and unvote

by **safariguy5** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 8:34 pm

Hmm...this is a tough one. On one hand, I see the attitude not doing Neb any favors.

On the other hand, for Dj to just pop in and say he doesn't agree with the Neb wagon and then not offering up an alternative or a vote doesn't bode well for his activity either.

I'm keeping my vote on Dj until he contributes something meaningful.

by **Iron Butterfly** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:03 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Hmm...this is a tough one. On one hand, I see the attitude not doing Neb any favors.

On the other hand, for Dj to just pop in and say he doesn't agree with the Neb wagon and then not offering up an alternative or a vote doesn't bode well for his activity either.

I'm keeping my vote on Dj until he contributes something meaningful.

I concur. DJ was quiet in his defense as the bandwagon formed. Edoc, while not defending DJ per say, presents his opinion
on why he believes our votes on DJ are BS. He then puts focus on NeB, which seems to have minimally more substance then the bandwagon on DJ. Folks jump on Neb.

To me the difference between Neb and DJ is that being flippant and a wise ass does not necessarily make one scum. The bandwagon seems to be more about personal style then substance. DJ on the other hand was quiet and then suddenly offers his two cents once the pressure is off him and has shifted to Neb.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Thu Aug 15, 2013 9:53 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Hmm...this is a tough one. On one hand, I see the attitude not doing Neb any favors.

On the other hand, for Dj to just pop in and say he doesn't agree with the Neb wagon and then not offering up an alternative or a vote doesn't bode well for his activity either.

I'm keeping my vote on Dj until he contributes something meaningful.

But DJ did vote me.

Djfireside wrote:Vote Neb Reason? Its Day 1! What friggin reason is there really to be had from experienced people?!?

I'll work on dropping the attitude, as I do appreciate some of you actually helping me understand why I'm under the microscope.

by **edocsil** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 6:30 am

Nebuchadnezer wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Hmm...this is a tough one. On one hand, I see the attitude not doing Neb any favors.

On the other hand, for Dj to just pop in and say he doesn't agree with the Neb wagon and then not offering up an alternative or a vote doesn't bode well for his activity either.

I'm keeping my vote on Dj until he contributes something meaningful.

But DJ did vote me.

Djfireside wrote:Vote Neb Reason? Its Day 1! What friggin reason is there really to be had from experienced people?!?

I'll work on dropping the attitude, as I do appreciate some of you actually helping me understand why I'm under the microscope.

Yeah, TBH i don't know what he was thinking with those two posts.

by **StubbsKVM** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 1:06 pm

I'm sticking with my DJ vote. Only pops in when under pressure.

by **DoomYoshi** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:14 pm

edocsil wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Hmm...this is a tough one. On one hand, I see the attitude not doing Neb any favors.

On the other hand, for Dj to just pop in and say he doesn't agree with the Neb wagon and then not offering up an alternative or a vote doesn't bode well for his activity either.

I'm keeping my vote on Dj until he contributes something meaningful.

But DJ did vote me.

Djfireside wrote:Vote Neb Reason? Its Day 1! What friggin reason is there really to be had from experienced people?!?

I'll work on dropping the attitude, as I do appreciate some of you actually helping me understand why I'm under the microscope.

Yeah, TBH i don't know what he was thinking with those two posts.

I don't know which 2 you are talking about...

What a confusing game.

Stubbz, since DJ has been under pressure for 100% of the game, how can you say that as a reason?

by **Djfireside** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 2:34 pm

I popped in because I finally got my time back

I have to get back to my other mafia game which thakfully is a stalled state. You are asking me to contribute something meaningful which on D1 there really isnt anything. I can contribute my role but that isnt really meaningful either which goes with my last statement earlier because of my absense but noone seemed to push me. I pushed Neb for the same reason to get more information.

by **StubbsKVM** on Fri Aug 16, 2013 3:53 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:
edocsil wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Hmm...this is a tough one. On one hand, I see the attitude not doing Neb any favors.

On the other hand, for Dj to just pop in and say he doesn't agree with the Neb wagon and then not offering up an alternative or a vote doesn't bode well for his activity either.

I'm keeping my vote on Dj until he contributes something meaningful.

But DJ did vote me.

Djfireside wrote:Vote Neb Reason? Its Day 1! What friggin reason is there really to be had from experienced people?!?

I'll work on dropping the attitude, as I do appreciate some of you actually helping me understand why I'm under the microscope.

Yeah, TBH i don't know what he was thinking with those two posts.

I don't know which 2 you are talking about...

What a confusing game.

Stubbz, since DJ has been under pressure for 100% of the game, how can you say that as a reason?

Only after the votes were piling up, he came in and posted.
If everybody thinks: day 1 is just random, let's not post, how are you ever going to find mafia?

by **DoomYoshi** on Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:24 am

StubbsKVM wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
edocsil wrote:
Nebuchadnezer wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Hmm...this is a tough one. On one hand, I see the attitude not doing Neb any favors.

On the other hand, for Dj to just pop in and say he doesn't agree with the Neb wagon and then not offering up an alternative or a vote doesn't bode well for his activity either.

I'm keeping my vote on Dj until he contributes something meaningful.

But DJ did vote me.

Djfireside wrote:Vote Neb Reason? Its Day 1! What friggin reason is there really to be had from experienced people?!?

I'll work on dropping the attitude, as I do appreciate some of you actually helping me understand why I'm under the microscope.

Yeah, TBH i don't know what he was thinking with those two posts.

I don't know which 2 you are talking about...

What a confusing game.

Stubbz, since DJ has been under pressure for 100% of the game, how can you say that as a reason?

Only after the votes were piling up, he came in and posted.
If everybody thinks: day 1 is just random, let's not post, how are you ever going to find mafia?

Other than the jokevote stage, at which point of the game was there not pressure on dj for you to get a baseline reading on how much he will post with no pressure.

I can say: only on days ending with "y" does Stubbz vote, and it will be an equally accurate statement.

by **Nebuchadnezer** on Sat Aug 17, 2013 9:48 am

Well, here's our choices...

1. Go after the class clown (Neb) - I'm an easy target, you could probably get a wagon going again, but it won't tell you much.
2. Go after DJ - He's basically had a random wagon on him since the start, his claim and the wagon will be a bit more telling, I think, but I'm not really convinced it will be a good result.
3. Find another "case".
4. Sit back and twiddle our thumbs for another week.

by **edocsil** on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:10 am

Deadline is 18.8.13.

by **jonty125** on Sat Aug 17, 2013 10:21 am

Nebuchadnezer wrote:Well, here's our choices...

1. Go after the class clown (Neb) - I'm an easy target, you could probably get a wagon going again, but it won't tell you much.
2. Go after DJ - He's basically had a random wagon on him since the start, his claim and the wagon will be a bit more telling, I think, but I'm not really convinced it will be a good result.
3. Find another "case".
4. Sit back and twiddle our thumbs for another week.

Well Neb according to Rule 2e.

Rule 2e wrote:Without a Majority I will Lynch the person with the most votes.

you're going to die, so I recommend you start talking (claiming).

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