FREESTYLE QUESTION

[john1099]

So I was playing a Freestyle game with my friend, and I ended a round. So I know I can't start the next round.

Apparently he was watching me play, and then as soon as I was done he started his turn. So he started his turn, and a few minutes later when I was checking my other games I notice that he had started the new round.

I know that the round has commenced and so any player that has not yet gone that round may make his/her play. So I make my plays, and ended up defeating a strategic point in his defence, before he was barely done deciding where he wanted to deploy his armies.

Now he is angry stating I had a double turn, and this is a game breaking exploit. I assume he thinks a person should finish their turn ? before I can go ? Anwyay,

Can I get some opinions or feedback, or something that I can reference to him to get him out of that notion ? I told him it was a game mechanic basically.

Thanks

Under the "FAQ" it clearly says.. and I Quote:

Play Order

In a freestyle game it doesn't matter in which order players take their turns. After the last player takes his turn, a new round begins immediately. The player who triggers a new round is not allowed to take a second back-to-back turn and must wait for someone else to play.

This is not a "game breaking exploit" its a fair tactic in any freestyle
game.
I would tell your friend to deploy quicker, and maybe wait a second before he takes his turn to see where you, or someone else goes, or, play Sequential which is:

In a sequential game player 1 is first, then player 2, then player 3, etc. Sequential games are slower but they mimic the sitting-around-a-table boardgame experience. When playing a sequential game with teams the order is staggered, alternating between teams.

Hope this helps, and by the way, you did nothing wrong

Happy gaming, and good luck!
John

I posted before you jackass
Thanks for coming out tho

By the way, you should accept your defeat, and go on with your life, because you just suck

[meatsim]

thank you for restating my proof and defeating your own post for me, the rule says that you quoted mind you.

The player who triggers a new round is not allowed to take a second back-to-back turn

and

must wait for someone else to play.

now its perfectly clear to me that you people do this and think its ok, but its clearly a rule violation.

taking the last turn, say gaining a country, the second somone else hits the start deploy button you hit it too and get credit for holdng the country while noone else has a chance to challenge your borders is not intended game play hence its an exploit.

tell me this jackass, why would this rule from the FAQ you quoted be there if its intended gameplay, mind you a second turn last and first is obviously impossibe so a rule against a double turn is meant for this ninja manouver.

so why is this rule there if not meant for this particular topic

[Skittles!]

Freestyle is just that FREE.

Really? I thought it was cause you didn't have to pay for it.

[risk master2000]

thank you for restating my proof and defeating your own post for me, the rule says that you quoted mind you.

The player who triggers a new round is not allowed to take a second back-to-back turn

and

must wait for someone else to play.

now its perfectly clear to me that you people do this and think its ok, but its clearly a rule violation.

taking the last turn, say gaining a country, the second somone else hits the start deploy button you hit it too and get credit for holdng the country while noone else has a chance to challenge your borders is not intended game play hence its an exploit.

tell me this jackass, why would this rule from the FAQ you quoted be there if its intended gameplay, mind you a second turn last and first is obviously impossibe so a rule against a double turn is meant for this ninja manouver.

so why is this rule there if not meant for this particular topic

nowhere does it say must wait for person to complete there turn if you want to get into absolutes on the meaning if you have a problem with clarity Pm a Mod or admin but they will probably laugh at you inability to get past the obvious in the mechanics of it...

[oVo]

You are thick as a brick meatsim. The only way the same person executed two turns in a row
is if you and Guuner are one in the same and only then would a rule have been broken.

As the game log shows:
The player who triggers a new round is not allowed to take a second back-to-back turn
that would be Guuner.
must wait for someone else to play.
that would be meatsim.
Since meatsim has begun his turn, Gunner's wait is over and he is now good to go.
It is not back to back because someone else (YOU) has started their turn
making your accusation unfounded and moot.

[Guuner]

Well Meatsim is a good friend, and I wish I didn't have to have this argument with him, however I feel there is more that he is not seeing to this debate.

In this game he had 2 turns in a row before me as well as 2 cashes while I was out of the house, during which time he took out a player and plundered half the board and took my continent. This sucks, but its freestyle and thats the way it goes. I accept that. No complaints there.

What this boils down to is is this: as someone pointed out the term "turn" is used, and is being defined in more than 1 way. As of now starting a turn means beginning a turn (regardless of the moves made during the time period) as it relates to the quote from the FAQ.

As a player of the traditional board game it has taken some time to see all the different types of strategy and used as well as the game mechanics in this club, and experience is doing just that.

To put it into perspective, I also think of it like this:

As the last player to play a round I must wait. I didn't necessarily choose to be last but maybe I was out of the house and it ended up being me. So now how can I get to NOT go last in the next round ... I'll have to play and finish before someone else in the next round.

Now I think that Meat is saying he feels that his "turn" was not taken becuase he didn't finish making his moves. But ... he also gets 1 full hour to make his moves.

Now if I was to wait until he finished making his moves I might have to wait an hour. Meanwhile during this time period all the other players would be allowed to take a turn, and most likely finish before Meat's hour would be up .. now I would have no choice but to wait then go last again ? That wouldn't be very freestyle at all, and actually very bad for any player going last who could be tactially stalled if that was the case.

I wasnt sitting there waiting to take another turn ASAP, but the situation presented itself while I was browsing my other games and I took advantage of the opportunity. Sure this was a mugging of sorts, but I never thought it would go this far.

I can't really say any more than that, except our group of buddies have been very competitive as Risk over the years and sometimes these diaagreements arise.

[Koesen]

One of the fun things about freestyle is that you have to constantly pay attention to what other people are doing. Just because you are taking three minutes to figure out what to do after hitting 'take your turn', doesn't mean your neighbours are too.

I had some wild games where all players were active all at once. Madness! But nmot without a method.