F400 Clan Ranking - Needs Repair

by **IcePack** on Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:18 pm

MudPuppy wrote:
Genoke wrote:
IcePack wrote:
Bruceswar wrote:
Leehar wrote:
Genoke wrote:If a clan has N/A behind its name, under category "best showing in 1 year", does that mean the clan couldn't win a clan war during the whole that have passed?

It just means in the last year they haven't played enough wars to get a ranking because the weighting is too low.

No that means that they have not beat anybody in the last year in a war.

Bruceswar is correct. N/A means no win in last 12 months

ok, thanks for explanation guys... to bad there are so many N/A's...
8/42, almost 20% didn't win a clan war in the passed 1 year ...

That doesn't look right. What about Risk Attackers, for instance? They haven't won a full war but have won a bunch of mini wars and seem to have enough activity (123-138 overall) to warrant some kind of 'showing' for their efforts? Does the #27 clan get no credit for their 15-15 tie against the #13 clan for "Best Showing in 1 Year" purposes?

RA DB 10 2 07/06/12
RA MM 6 6 07/06/12
RA z-IGNI 7 5 07/06/12
RA LOTZ 6 6 07/06/12
RA MB 10 2 07/06/12
SOH RA 9 3 07/06/12
PACK RA 34 7 07/14/12
SOH RA 10 8 08/08/12
z-IGNI RA 9 9 08/15/12
MM RA 9 9 08/31/12
PIG RA 15 15 03/29/13
FALL RA 12 4 05/08/13
RA AOK 10 6 05/18/13
LOW RA 10 6 05/31/13
RA VDLL 13 3 06/01/13

I believe best showing doesn't take into consideration mini wars, ACC, etc. below 41 game "regular" wars. (while it does for the score, not for the "best in 12 month" column)

by **MudPuppy** on Mon Jul 01, 2013 12:58 pm

IcePack wrote:I believe best showing doesn't take into consideration mini wars, ACC, etc. below 41 game "regular" wars. (while it does for the score, not for the "best in 12 month" column)

Gotcha... Thanks, Ice. Should it? Can it? Not trying to make more work for you if it's a pain... just posing the question.

by **IcePack** on Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:14 pm

MudPuppy wrote:
IcePack wrote:I believe best showing doesn't take into consideration mini wars, ACC, etc. below 41 game "regular" wars. (while it does for the score, not for the "best in 12 month" column)

Gotcha... Thanks, Ice. Should it? Can it? Not trying to make more work for you if it's a pain... just posing the question.

Well, I think its trying to show best showing of something of substance. Not saying CL5 or mini matches dont matter (obviously they do, they're included in the scores) but i would say going 7-5 in Random League vs TOFU shouldn't be posted over, say, a regular war that you won in something else. Just because the smaller sets are a little easier to see "weird" anomalies data wise, and not as representative as a full 41 min war.

Can it? Yes...manually. Should it? I prefer not to, not just because of the additional work involved, but mainly for what I mentioned earlier. It helps give a representative sample of who they are fighting and best win to date is over the past year. While some clans might be active in leagues etc like RA, them not winning a complete war DOES tell viewers something about the activity level / chosen style of play.

And the 15-15 tie that you mentioned wouldn't be included even if i did...its a tie, not a win.

IcePack

by **Swifte** on Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:22 pm

I'm in favor of keeping results of less than 41 games off the 'top performance' column.

by **MudPuppy** on Mon Jul 01, 2013 2:54 pm

IcePack wrote:
MudPuppy wrote:
IcePack wrote:I believe best showing doesn't take into consideration mini wars, ACC, etc. below 41 game "regular" wars. (while it does for the score, not for the "best in 12 month" column)

Gotcha... Thanks, Ice. Should it? Can it? Not trying to make more work for you if it's a pain... just posing the question.

Well, I think its trying to show best showing of something of substance. Not saying CL5 or mini matches dont matter (obviously they do, they're included in the scores) but i would say going 7-5 in Random League vs TOFU shouldn't be posted over, say, a regular war that you won in something else. Just because the smaller sets are a little easier to see "weird" anomalies data wise, and not as representative as a full 41 min war.

Can it? Yes...manually. Should it? I prefer not to, not just because of the additional work involved, but mainly for what I mentioned earlier. It helps give a representative sample of who they are fighting and best win to date is over the past year. While some clans might be active in leagues etc like RA, them not winning a complete war DOES tell viewers something about the activity level / chosen style of play.

And the 15-15 tie that you mentioned wouldn't be included even if i did...its a tie, not a win.

IcePack

Cool, thanks for the quick answers. Is there a working link to the algorithm's script anywhere? The link listed in Farang's old thread is defunct. I wan't able to find a working link based on a some quick searches and was curious what went into the script as I don't fully understand how it's all calculated.

by **IcePack** on Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:13 pm

No problem.

I do not have a link to script posted anywhere. I'm not sure if FD ever updated his post, so I can't answer that accurately.

Cheers,
IcePack

by **IcePack** on Mon Jul 01, 2013 3:19 pm

Swifte wrote:I'm in favor of keeping results of less than 41 games off the 'top performance' column.

I don't plan to change this portion anytime soon, so no worries.

by **Genoke** on Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:21 pm

IcePack wrote:
Swifte wrote:I'm in favor of keeping results of less than 41 games off the 'top performance' column.

I don't plan to change this portion anytime soon, so no worries.

I agree, like you mentioned before:

IcePack wrote:I believe best showing doesn't take into consideration mini wars, ACC, etc. below 41 game "regular" wars. (while it does for the score, not for the "best in 12 month" column)
Well, I think its trying to show best showing of something of substance. Not saying CL5 or mini matches dont matter (obviously they do, they're included in the scores) but i would say going 7-5 in Random League vs TOFU shouldn't be posted over, say, a regular war that you won in something else. Just because the smaller sets are a little easier to see "weird" anomalies data wise, and not as representative as a full 41 min war.

You have to hand a standard after all...
Looks like we need to win a war at least once every year, otherwise...we get an N/A (which i wouldn't like) :mrgreen:

by **The_Samurai** on Mon Jul 01, 2013 4:23 pm

[NC4] [R1] RET vs VVV - [31-10] of 41 - RET wins- FINAL 07/01

by **hotfire** on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:17 pm

Swifte wrote:I'm in favor of keeping results of less than 41 games off the 'top performance' column.

im in favor of keeping resultsof less than 41 games off the ranking all together...or atleast being able to access that ranking system

by **Bruceswar** on Wed Jul 03, 2013 6:46 pm

hotfire wrote:
Swifte wrote:I'm in favor of keeping results of less than 41 games off the 'top performance' column.

im in favor of keeping resultsof less than 41 games off the ranking all together...or atleast being able to access that ranking system

I do not think many would agree with you here.

by **patrickaa317** on Wed Jul 03, 2013 9:38 pm

hotfire wrote:
Swifte wrote:I'm in favor of keeping results of less than 41 games off the 'top performance' column.

im in favor of keeping resultsof less than 41 games off the ranking all together...or atleast being able to access that ranking system

viewtopic.php?f=438&t=140929&start=15#p3088157

by **IcePack** on Sat Jul 13, 2013 11:50 am

benga wrote:WAR-RET 7-5 2013-06-04 included

RET-DYN 7-5 2013-06-09 incl

SOH-WAR 2-10 2013-06-13 incl

TFFS-TOFU 6-6 2013-06-04 incl

FOED-TNC 8-4 2013-06-10 incl

DYN-SOH 2-10 2013-06-08 incl

G1-PIG 5-7 2013-06-05 corrected f400

ID-OSA 5-7 2013-06-29 late add

LOW-MD 7-5 2013-06-11 incl

MB-FALL 2-11 2013-06-09 correct score 3-9 incl

TNC-HH 9-3 2013-06-10 incl

TOFU-FOED 8-4 2013-06-15 incl

WAR-TFFS 7-5 2013-06-15 late add

MD-MB 11-1 2013-06-17 late add

OSA-LOW 3-9 2013-06-22 late add

PIG-ID 5-7 2013-06-23 late add

TFFS-DYN 7-5 2013-06-27 late add

FOED-WAR 7-5 2013-06-29 late add

HH-TOFU 5-7 2013-06-30 late add

TNC-FALL 6-6 2013-06-30 late add

LOW-PIG 6-6 2013-07-01 add

WAR-HH 7-5 2013-07-05 add

by **IcePack** on Sat Jul 13, 2013 5:37 pm

DYN-FOED 4-8 2013-07-09

by **Janomike** on Sun Jul 14, 2013 4:02 am

Well here is RAs first full war victory then:

RA-DB 29-12 2013-07-10

Lets see how it improves our ranking.
And thanx Icepack for you efforts with this ranking

by **Chariot of Fire** on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:13 am

Congrats to Ritz Crackers on your first victory.

by **IcePack** on Sun Jul 14, 2013 11:17 am

Janomike wrote:Well here is RAs first full war victory then:

RA-DB 29-12 2013-07-10

Lets see how it improves our ranking.
And thanx Icepack for you efforts with this ranking

Yeah I knew you guys had one coming up

by **IcePack** on Sun Jul 14, 2013 3:24 pm

Preparing for another update, so anyone w last minute results be sure to PM or post here please + thanks the next day or two. Already combed forum for finished wars, so last minute updates appreciated.

IcePack

by **IcePack** on Thu Jul 18, 2013 6:04 pm

This one is getting released from the dispatch.

Bad news: i know the war thing isn't updated. The next occassion im on the correct computer, i promise to update it.
sorry my schedule is a bit crazy this week / weekend. maybe midway next week to the end of next week it will normalize but im hoping i can get that stuff out before then.

Good news: i hope that the next update, or the one after i will have a new interesting something er other to post

by **Crazyirishman** on Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:06 pm

IcePack wrote:This one is getting released from the dispatch.

Bad news: i know the war thing isn't updated. The next occassion im on the correct computer, i promise to update it.
sorry my schedule is a bit crazy this week / weekend. maybe midway next week to the end of next week it will normalize but im hoping i can get that stuff out before then.

Good news: i hope that the next update, or the one after i will have a new interesting something er other to post

That's fine, take your time. You're putting forth a lot more effort than 99.9% of CC users right now.

by **Fewnix** on Thu Jul 18, 2013 7:25 pm

said it before , say it again

appreciate all that you have done, are doing and will do
=D>

by **Genoke** on Fri Jul 19, 2013 3:04 am

IcePack wrote:This one is getting released from the dispatch.

Bad news: i know the war thing isn't updated. The next occassion im on the correct computer, i promise to update it.
sorry my schedule is a bit crazy this week / weekend. maybe midway next week to the end of next week it will normalize but im hoping i can get that stuff out before then.

Good news: i hope that the next update, or the one after i will have a new interesting something er other to post

Don't worry mate, take your time.
I know people are eager to know the next update (including me :lol:

), but most of us thanks CC for having one like you on the site. =D>

ps: don't take to much on your fork so we're not going to loose you due a break of 3 years by exhausting mind!

by **Arama86n** on Fri Jul 19, 2013 4:14 am

Genoke wrote:
IcePack wrote:This one is getting released from the dispatch.

Bad news: i know the war thing isn't updated. The next occassion im on the correct computer, i promise to update it.
sorry my schedule is a bit crazy this week / weekend. maybe midway next week to the end of next week it will normalize but im hoping i can get that stuff out before then.

Good news: i hope that the next update, or the one after i will have a new interesting something er other to post

Don't worry mate, take your time.
I know people are eager to know the next update (including me ), but most of us thanks CC for having one like you on the site.

ps: don't take to much on your fork so we're not going to loose you due a break of 3 years by exhausting mind!

Allow me to jump on the (very deserved) praise band-wagon, and thank you sincerely for doing this IcePack. There are a lot of people that appreciate it, and don't you forget it. =D>

If we have to wait a day extra here or there, every now and then, so be it. Anyone who says otherwise can start paying you to do this, and THEN complain

by **Chariot of Fire** on Fri Jul 19, 2013 10:39 pm

I hope you're being awarded a medal for all this work you do. It's a great contribution to the clan scene, for which we're all very grateful.

by **slickstick** on Sat Jul 20, 2013 1:50 am

Chariot of Fire wrote:I hope you're being awarded a medal for all this work you do. It's a great contribution to the clan scene, for which we're all very grateful.

Ditto, i know i am not very verbal, but i do notice your hard work. =D>