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Should I continue with this map?

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Postby hulmey on Fri May 11, 2007 11:29 am

i live in malta in the mediterran sea and it is said that it was part of Atlantis....Under malta's sea are huge caves and what once appeard to be signs ofcivilization.
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Postby Molacole on Fri May 11, 2007 11:49 am

Don't reduce any territories PLEASE don't!!! looks incredible so far.
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Postby sully800 on Fri May 11, 2007 12:40 pm

I don't really understand how we are going to distinguish all of the seperate continents. They all have the same types of coloring :?
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Postby hulmey on Fri May 11, 2007 12:43 pm

maybe its not all contient based or sumthing
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Postby sully800 on Fri May 11, 2007 12:43 pm

I also must say this seems like a rather poor way to create a map, even though it is more exciting than normal. You will finish all the graphics first before anyone has a chance to comment on gameplay. Then when gameplay issues arise you will be more reluctant than normal to change the map because you spent so much time on the graphics...
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Postby mibi on Fri May 11, 2007 12:47 pm

sully800 wrote:I don't really understand how we are going to distinguish all of the seperate continents. They all have the same types of coloring :?


I will add thicker or colored borders for the continents. they may also have names over top of them, perhaps.
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Postby mibi on Fri May 11, 2007 12:57 pm

sully800 wrote:I also must say this seems like a rather poor way to create a map, even though it is more exciting than normal. You will finish all the graphics first before anyone has a chance to comment on gameplay. Then when gameplay issues arise you will be more reluctant than normal to change the map because you spent so much time on the graphics...


I dont anticipate game play issues in respect to the territory arrangement or borders. irregularities can be correct with the bonuses. if there is some looming game play disaster, I have will no problem fixing it in the graphics, it really doesn't take all that long.

I will say though, that the 'terrestrial' territories and continents are only half of this map. If a game play issue is to arise, it will surely come from the upper portion of the map, not yet complete.
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Postby yeti_c on Fri May 11, 2007 1:38 pm

mibi wrote:I will say though, that the 'terrestrial' territories and continents are only half of this map. If a game play issue is to arise, it will surely come from the upper portion of the map, not yet complete.


Now there's a teaser...

Christ you're heartless!!

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Postby Guiscard on Fri May 11, 2007 2:39 pm

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mibi wrote:I will say though, that the 'terrestrial' territories and continents are only half of this map. If a game play issue is to arise, it will surely come from the upper portion of the map, not yet complete.


Now there's a teaser...

Christ you're heartless!!

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I'm going with a made up map featuring 'heaven and earth' type stuff... The Gods playing dice and all that... Sounds good, but I had high hopes for Troy!

Must say, though, your graphics skills are absolutely top notch, Mibi, and you're a credit to the Foundry!
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Postby ericwdhs on Fri May 11, 2007 5:34 pm

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ericwdhs wrote:In the book, Troy hadn't been under any real seige.


Leaving aside the fact that there is no book as such, the literary tradition does hold that the Greeks were camped outside for ten years, which would make it a pretty serious siege.


The Illiad details the attack on Troy. I'd call that a book about it. It ends before the whole Trojan Horse ordeal but it contains most of the important stuff. I don't remember the Greeks ever using any real siege weapons (either on land or from the sea). From what I read, it was all man-to-man combat in front of the city which is one reason why it could have taken 10 years. I doubt a single city would have lasted that long if it had been bombarded.
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Postby kwanton on Fri May 11, 2007 5:47 pm

I wonder why everyone automatically assumed a Grecian type map. When I first saw it I thought Mayan or native american of some sort.

Or am I just stupid? <--------(FLAME MAGNET YAY!)

Edit: Now that I think of it "over 1000 years ago" + "no real accurate maps" means most of the native american cultures would kind of make sense.
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Postby reptile on Fri May 11, 2007 6:34 pm

first guess i would guess this has something to do with ZELDA the field in the game ocarina of time! am i right?
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Postby ericwdhs on Fri May 11, 2007 7:36 pm

kwanton wrote:I wonder why everyone automatically assumed a Grecian type map. When I first saw it I thought Mayan or native american of some sort.

Or am I just stupid? <--------(FLAME MAGNET YAY!)

Edit: Now that I think of it "over 1000 years ago" + "no real accurate maps" means most of the native american cultures would kind of make sense.


haha... I don't know much about them but I remember looking up Tenochtitlan to see if it matched this... but it didn't. I couldn't think of any other battles that happened in the Americas that far back. You have a good point though. It could still pretty much be anything.
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Postby mibi on Fri May 11, 2007 7:44 pm

Here is another 5 territory continent. Being a peninsula, this community maintains some important water ways. In addition to fishing, they also grow wheat. They worship regularly and train local conscripts at the barracks... and with enough training, they can become great warriors.

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Postby ericwdhs on Fri May 11, 2007 7:48 pm

Jeez... What is this supposed to be? It's driving me nuts. Well, at least we see the border between the terrestrial and spiritual/god/etc. realms.
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Postby mibi on Fri May 11, 2007 7:53 pm

mibi wrote:Here is another 5 territory continent. Being a peninsula, this community maintains some important water ways. In addition to fishing, they also grow wheat. They worship regularly and train local conscripts at the barracks... and with enough training, they can become great warriors.

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Postby sully800 on Sat May 12, 2007 12:36 am

kwanton wrote:I wonder why everyone automatically assumed a Grecian type map. When I first saw it I thought Mayan or native american of some sort.

Or am I just stupid? <--------(FLAME MAGNET YAY!)

Edit: Now that I think of it "over 1000 years ago" + "no real accurate maps" means most of the native american cultures would kind of make sense.


Well I thought about Myans, or such a civilization but I don't really associate the farmlands and stone circles and things with them. The temple certainly.

And Native Americans from the North rarely built any permanent structures- I certainly wouldn't associate a ziggaraut type temple with them.


But yeah, I am thinking less of the Troy idea now...
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Postby onbekende on Sat May 12, 2007 4:14 am

Do I see a top there? thus concluding the top of this is just legend?
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Postby hulmey on Sat May 12, 2007 5:01 am

mibi do a poll so that people can vote to se what they think the theme of this mystrey map is.....

We got troy so far as 1 option and my option would be the Spartans (from the latest film 300)
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Postby t.e.c on Sat May 12, 2007 5:01 am

onbekende wrote:Do I see a top there? thus concluding the top of this is just legend?


i think that will be the rest of the map actually

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onbekende wrote:nice looking, as the previous ones

but are that ringplatforms :D (< Stargate fan)


yes those can transport you to another realm or dimension, so to speak.
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Postby mibi on Sat May 12, 2007 8:39 am

Here is a 4 territory continent, which completes the land between two rivers. The small population consists of some farmers and herders. As well as a small group of people who guard a secret passage out from the city. No time for worship or the training of conscripts.

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Postby vtmarik on Sat May 12, 2007 9:31 am

Ancient China?

Or maybe Pern?
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Postby sfhbballnut on Sat May 12, 2007 11:01 am

I think its ancient american, the aztecs or something, looks great
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Postby Gwalchmai on Sat May 12, 2007 11:42 am

There is a peninsular runs down to the north of Troy and the city did have a secret entrance out of it, so that doesn't necessarily have to be out of the picture yet. The geography would be massively out of scale with size of the city if it is going to be Troy though. I suppose that's one of the main problems with trying to place specific landmarks. You end up like the guy who proposed Troy was actually near Cambridge in the UK because the area had some similar geographical features.

ericwdhs wrote:The Illiad details the attack on Troy. I'd call that a book about it. It ends before the whole Trojan Horse ordeal but it contains most of the important stuff. I don't remember the Greeks ever using any real siege weapons (either on land or from the sea). From what I read, it was all man-to-man combat in front of the city which is one reason why it could have taken 10 years. I doubt a single city would have lasted that long if it had been bombarded.


The Iliad isn't really about the Trojan War, it's about Achilles and Hector, with the Trojan War as a backdrop. Knowledge of the war is assumed, which is why you don't really get any specific details. The battles included are there more for literary purposes than anything else and can't be taken as detailing how the siege would have run. The fact that you find horses with chariots attached leaping over ditches gives away that the author didn't really have too much idea of what went on in war, let alone at Troy. Besides, not all sieges involve all out attacks on city walls, particularly back in those days.
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