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DoomYoshi wrote:He claimed because of the pressure.
"Pressure Makes Diamonds"
- George S. Patton
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
Iron Butterfly wrote:aage wrote:
"Forgot to add, if Rish were more specific on which role he is backing up there would be room for a counterclaim, which right now there is not."
So if he were a back up Doc you would expect a Doc to step forward and say, "Yup Im the Doc"??
On day one a power role would be foolish to come forward to substantiate a back up claim, which would prove nothing anyways. If Rish is lieing we can not prove or disprove he is telling the truth until the main role he may be backing up id flipped or rish himself is dead.
DoomYoshi wrote:And this game crashes to a halt. Stupid weekend. What's so "end" about them anyways. Another week is about to begin!
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
aage wrote:Screw you guys.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
rishaed wrote:aage wrote:Screw you guys.
That being said I know who you tracked from the scene last night.
rishaed wrote:aage wrote:Screw you guys.
That being said I know who you tracked from the scene last night.
zimmah wrote:well, it could have been worse.
also, since the scene said aage knew who was innocent (his target was sleeping, so probably someone without night actions, like a double voter maybe) if we can somehow find out who aage visited we would have some useful information.
when i have more time on my hands i'll also read back day 1 or at least my notes to see if knowing aage is innocent would shed some light on day 1 conversations.
fastposted 3 times. i am really confused about rishaed now.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
zimmah wrote:You made it sound like you was sure.
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Now it looks like you're taking it back.
And the fact that you claim he visited you doesn't really add any value to te claim, as obviously you'd claim to be town.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
rishaed wrote:Since I am at L-2.... Saf I hinted already that you were on the wrong trail with your role ideas. You still are. I am a back-up for one of our other characters. That means I know Town has one other role for certain. It is why I would like not to fully claim, so I can evaluate the validity of certain claims and/or clear another person later on. As such I am currently sitting on VT like status with night actions. As I said, I will be useful later rather than sooner (that is if I live that long anymore). I want more input from the other ones voting other than Saf. Specifically Chuck.
rishaed wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:Now it just seems like you are stalling.
Very well. I am Asim Back-up Doc Now please unvote me. Not that It will matter anyways.I'm sure to die tonight somehow.
rishaed wrote:Sorry I forgot to consider the fact that there could be others without night actions. I just have a pretty good idea that he probably tracked me, who went nowhere. That being said last night could have been worse, we could have lost two townies instead of one. The bad part is we just lost our tracker. However in a NV game I'm not sure just how much that will affect us.
Nebuchadnezer wrote:rishaed wrote:Since I am at L-2.... Saf I hinted already that you were on the wrong trail with your role ideas. You still are. I am a back-up for one of our other characters. That means I know Town has one other role for certain. It is why I would like not to fully claim, so I can evaluate the validity of certain claims and/or clear another person later on. As such I am currently sitting on VT like status with night actions. As I said, I will be useful later rather than sooner (that is if I live that long anymore). I want more input from the other ones voting other than Saf. Specifically Chuck.rishaed wrote:DoomYoshi wrote:Now it just seems like you are stalling.
Very well. I am Asim Back-up Doc Now please unvote me. Not that It will matter anyways.I'm sure to die tonight somehow.
rishaed wrote:Sorry I forgot to consider the fact that there could be others without night actions. I just have a pretty good idea that he probably tracked me, who went nowhere. That being said last night could have been worse, we could have lost two townies instead of one. The bad part is we just lost our tracker. However in a NV game I'm not sure just how much that will affect us.
Yes, Rishaed, you are either scum or playing very poorly.
1. First you say you have night actions (see red part).
2. Then you give the typical, "I'm so important that I will probably be dead" post...typical of scum.
3. Then you come back and say that you HAD to be the one tracked because you did nothing. This after clearly stating that you have night actions (see red part again).
So, I'll start out where I left off yesterday, since I was never convinced of your claim. At worst, we get a "backup doc" who really does nothing unless the Doc is killed. And for sure, you will "not be killed" for being a backup role...it's just not that important. That's the worst case. I don't think that is the case though. I think you're scum hiding behind a very clever fake claim that people are afraid to pull the trigger on.
I will wait to see what other information may come up, but my vote will most likely be going to you.
Neb
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
Now from later evidence, he claims he thought aage targeted him, which would be logical, as rishaed shouldn't be going anywhere on N1. But, my problem with this post is, he immediately claims he knows where aage went, but doesn't actually say himself. Probably poor play, in that thinking we were all on the same wavelength as him, or, he could be scum, trying to draw out a counter-claim, but that is WIFOM.rishaed wrote:aage wrote:Screw you guys.
That being said I know who you tracked from the scene last night.
. Now rishaed has got out of the one-track mind thinking about himself, and realises that other players might have stayed in bed last night. Once again I feel this is poor play, rather than the alternative, that he's scum who tried to kick up the dust, and get someone to claim.rishaed wrote:Sorry I forgot to consider the fact that there could be others without night actions. I just have a pretty good idea that he probably tracked me, who went nowhere. That being said last night could have been worse, we could have lost two townies instead of one. The bad part is we just lost our tracker. However in a NV game I'm not sure just how much that will affect us.
I disagree, with the worthlessness of the tracker. If he targets player X and watches them visit someone who dies, I feel that this quite valuable and could affect us.rishaed wrote:The bad part is we just lost our tracker. However in a NV game I'm not sure just how much that will affect us.
Here rishaed concedes it was poor play, but he was unlikely to say "I'm scum and was trying to force a knee-jerk reaction from a PR"rishaed wrote:I'm sorry, sometimes i just get caught up in my own spin.
. Rishaed, there is no denying that you said you had night actions. To quote yourself, you said you were a VT with actions, which is a contradiction in terms.rishaed wrote:I said I didn't have night actionsNebuchadnezer wrote:First you say you have night actions (see red part).rishaed wrote:As such I am currently sitting on VT like status with night actions
Rishaed doesn't address this at all; but then again, I don't really see this as scummy, more like a moan.Nebuchadnezer wrote:2. Then you give the typical, "I'm so important that I will probably be dead" post...typical of scum.
jonty125 wrote:Now, I've woken up. Lets have a gander at what has occured.
So firstly rishaed kicks us off by claiming he knows who the [deceased] tracker targeted.Now from later evidence, he claims he thought aage targeted him, which would be logical, as rishaed shouldn't be going anywhere on N1. But, my problem with this post is, he immediately claims he knows where aage went, but doesn't actually say himself. Probably poor play, in that thinking we were all on the same wavelength as him, or, he could be scum, trying to draw out a counter-claim, but that is WIFOM.rishaed wrote:aage wrote:Screw you guys.
That being said I know who you tracked from the scene last night.
Now rishead hits the reverse gear hard,. Now rishaed has got out of the one-track mind thinking about himself, and realises that other players might have stayed in bed last night. Once again I feel this is poor play, rather than the alternative, that he's scum who tried to kick up the dust, and get someone to claim.rishaed wrote:Sorry I forgot to consider the fact that there could be others without night actions. I just have a pretty good idea that he probably tracked me, who went nowhere. That being said last night could have been worse, we could have lost two townies instead of one. The bad part is we just lost our tracker. However in a NV game I'm not sure just how much that will affect us.I disagree, with the worthlessness of the tracker. If he targets player X and watches them visit someone who dies, I feel that this quite valuable and could affect us.rishaed wrote:The bad part is we just lost our tracker. However in a NV game I'm not sure just how much that will affect us.Here rishaed concedes it was poor play, but he was unlikely to say "I'm scum and was trying to force a knee-jerk reaction from a PR"rishaed wrote:I'm sorry, sometimes i just get caught up in my own spin.
This is definitely the most interesting part of my post, Neb's 3 accusations against rishaed. Accusation 1.. Rishaed, there is no denying that you said you had night actions. To quote yourself, you said you were a VT with actions, which is a contradiction in terms.rishaed wrote:I said I didn't have night actionsNebuchadnezer wrote:First you say you have night actions (see red part).rishaed wrote:As such I am currently sitting on VT like status with night actions
Accusation 2.Rishaed doesn't address this at all; but then again, I don't really see this as scummy, more like a moan.Nebuchadnezer wrote:2. Then you give the typical, "I'm so important that I will probably be dead" post...typical of scum.
Accusation 3. I have already addressed.
I feel rishaed posts are mostly explained by poor play rather than scumminess. But FoS rishaed because of the issue with him saying "I have night actions", "I don't have night actions", "I didn't say that" little saga.
aage wrote: Maybe you're right, but since we receive no handlebars from the mod I think we should get some ourselves.
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