Refreshing the screen changes odds...??

by **4V4T4R** on Tue May 08, 2007 6:45 pm

When I am attacking, if, instead of clicking attack, I instead click the main refresh button of my browser (which will attack whatever country you last attacked), I almost always win that dice roll. In fact, I have done this many times, and only flat out lost once or twice... with several ties. Has anyone else noticed this? From a programing viewpoint, it doesn't make sense, you would think the dice would have the same probability either way, so it's probably just my luck. But I am curious how this works for other people.

by **ParadiceCity9** on Tue May 08, 2007 6:58 pm

i might have read this completely wrong but if i read it correctly...you click refresh and it attacks for you countries you've already attacked. therefore it attacks yourself?

by **GreecePwns** on Tue May 08, 2007 7:34 pm

I think he meant that after clicking attack he hits refresh and he always wins and that random.org dice are not random if this is done, which you cannot really tell after 10 rolls. Try doing that 100 times then we can talk. Also it is called RANDOM.org for a reason.

by **mibi** on Tue May 08, 2007 8:24 pm

i use this trick when I really need to win a roll, it wins about 80% of the time.

by **Chalupacabra** on Tue May 08, 2007 9:07 pm

Sounds like a feasible bug from a coding standpoint. Worth a check of the code to verify, in my humble opinion.

by **eewilliams** on Wed May 09, 2007 6:51 am

Great, multi's and now loaded dice, too.

by **Guilty_Biscuit** on Wed May 09, 2007 6:58 am

Yeah - this works even better if you open up a new browser window and copy/paste the page link into the new window. I find I win 95% of the time. 98% if you use a completely different browser each time. I think the only way to get to 100% win rate would be to open and close windows media player 5 times between each roll. :roll:

by **RobinJ** on Wed May 09, 2007 6:59 am

This could be real helpful

by **SirSebstar** on Wed May 09, 2007 7:04 am

when do you sacrifice the goat/virgins?

by **lackattack** on Wed May 09, 2007 7:30 am

I hope you guys are being sarcastic and not delusional

by **ZawBanjito** on Wed May 09, 2007 7:31 am

An important experiment performed by behavioral psychologist B.F. Skinner was to place a series of pigeons in individual, separate cages and feed them a food pellet every 15 seconds. The food was delivered every 15 seconds regardless of what the pigeons did. Despite this, each pigeon rapidly developed a behavioral "tic"... one rocked it's head back and forth, one spun in circles, one attacked a corner of the cage over and over again, etc. Skinner concluded that the pigeons had developed superstitions regarding which certain behavior caused the magical delivery of food to their cage, and no apparent reality could convince them otherwise.

I believe this result may apply here. :-^

by **lackattack** on Wed May 09, 2007 7:44 am

Interesting... maybe I don't really need to jiggle when I tinkle...

by **Robinette** on Wed May 09, 2007 8:02 am

Well if what zAw says is true, then throwing all that salt over my left shoulder has been for not.

But you know there just might be a little devil sitting on your left shoulder, and the force of those tiny salt particles could knock him off and cause him to land in a little heap on the floor where we can stamp on him and then click attack and be victorious... Mnnnnnn.......... Pass the salt, please... it's my turn.

by **ZawBanjito** on Wed May 09, 2007 8:50 am

Now that I think about it, whether it works or not, who wants to hit refresh before EVERY click? Even I don't want to win that much

by **chewyman** on Wed May 09, 2007 9:08 am

I'm gonna try it, get back to you in a day or two on how it worked

by **Robinette** on Wed May 09, 2007 9:16 am

Okay... I tried it and 1st off I have to agree with zAw that constant refreshing is a most annoying process... but what REALLY was annoying is that it only seems to benefit my opponents.

So this proves to me that this is clearly a silly stupid uneducated superstision that only simple minded people would embrace... I am way too smart for this and I am sticking with salt over the shoulder!

by **4V4T4R** on Wed May 09, 2007 2:42 pm

ok people.... I said in the beginning that i realize that the is ridiculous and is probably just my luck and has nothing to do with a bug, so stop complaining about how ridiculous it is. Secondly, actually try it. I am curious whether this works for other people.. because it's possible that there may actually be a bug involved. For example, if refreshing the page resets the seed for the random generator, then it's possible it could change the way the dice roll.

by **ConquererKing** on Wed May 09, 2007 2:49 pm

the funniest part is I have been refreshing the screen for better rolls for months and it's almost never let me down! I have a ton of other rituals to get you better rolls too, and I've found refreshing the screen works best if you crack your neck before (no joke!!!)

by **Chalupacabra** on Wed May 09, 2007 3:25 pm

I'd like to recant my concern. The more I think about it, the more ridiculous it seems. Either it's random or it isn't. The generator has no concept of what a weak or powerful random number is so there's no way to bias it in your favor. The only possibility of a bug would be if it gave you the same rolls on refresh.