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Postby The Gunslinger on Mon May 07, 2007 2:34 pm

i have to analyze a poem for my english class and i was wondering what are some good poems that have like a deep meaning and all that peotry junk.
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Postby spinwizard on Mon May 07, 2007 2:39 pm

Rudyard Kipling wrote:If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!


best poem ever!
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Postby The Gunslinger on Mon May 07, 2007 2:40 pm

spinwizard wrote:
Rudyard Kipling wrote:If you can keep your head when all about you
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
If you can trust yourself when all men doubt you
But make allowance for their doubting too,
If you can wait and not be tired by waiting,
Or being lied about, don't deal in lies,
Or being hated, don't give way to hating,
And yet don't look too good, nor talk too wise:
If you can dream--and not make dreams your master,
If you can think--and not make thoughts your aim;
If you can meet with Triumph and Disaster
And treat those two impostors just the same;
If you can bear to hear the truth you've spoken
Twisted by knaves to make a trap for fools,
Or watch the things you gave your life to, broken,
And stoop and build 'em up with worn-out tools:
If you can make one heap of all your winnings
And risk it all on one turn of pitch-and-toss,
And lose, and start again at your beginnings
And never breath a word about your loss;
If you can force your heart and nerve and sinew
To serve your turn long after they are gone,
And so hold on when there is nothing in you
Except the Will which says to them: "Hold on!"
If you can talk with crowds and keep your virtue,
Or walk with kings--nor lose the common touch,
If neither foes nor loving friends can hurt you;
If all men count with you, but none too much,
If you can fill the unforgiving minute
With sixty seconds' worth of distance run,
Yours is the Earth and everything that's in it,
And--which is more--you'll be a Man, my son!


best poem ever!


damn, i liked that poem but we already covered it in my class and we cant do poems that we read in class
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Postby spinwizard on Mon May 07, 2007 2:41 pm

erm... give me a min
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Postby unriggable on Mon May 07, 2007 2:45 pm

"the hangman" is def the best ive heard
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Postby spinwizard on Mon May 07, 2007 2:47 pm

Talking Turkeys by Benjamin Zephaniah wrote:Be nice to yu turkeys dis christmas
Cos' turkeys just wanna hav fun
Turkeys are cool, turkeys are wicked
An every turkey has a Mum.
Be nice to yu turkeys dis christmas,
Don't eat it, keep it alive,
It could be yu mate, an not on your plate
Say, Yo! Turkey I'm on your side.
I got lots of friends who are turkeys
An all of dem fear christmas time,
Dey wanna enjoy it, dey say humans destroyed it
An humans are out of dere mind,
Yeah, I got lots of friends who are turkeys
Dey all hav a right to a life,
Not to be caged up an genetically made up
By any farmer an his wife.

Turkeys just wanna play reggae
Turkeys just wanna hip-hop
Can yu imagine a nice young turkey saying,
'I cannot wait for de chop',
Turkeys like getting presents, dey wanna watch christmas TV,
Turkeys hav brains an turkeys feel pain
In many ways like yu an me.

I once knew a turkey called...Turkey
He said "Benji explain to me please,
Who put de turkey in christmas
An what happens to christmas trees?",
I said "I am not too sure turkey
But itÕs nothing to do wid Christ Mass
Humans get greedy an waste more dan need be
An business men mek loadsa cash'.

Be nice to yu turkey dis christmas
Invite dem indoors fe sum greens
Let dem eat cake an let dem partake
In a plate of organic grown beans,
Be nice to yu turkey dis christmas
An spare dem de cut of de knife,
Join Turkeys United an dey'll be delighted
An yu will mek new friends 'FOR LIFE'.


this is by a birningham poet and it is different and realy good
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Postby Chad22342 on Mon May 07, 2007 2:49 pm

Isn't the oddysey and epic poem. Just bring in a copy of the oddysey.
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Postby unriggable on Mon May 07, 2007 2:52 pm

The Hangman (by Maurice Ogden, I think)
1.
Into our town the Hangman came.
Smelling of gold and blood and flame
and he paced our bricks with a diffident air
and built his frame on the courthouse square

The scaffold stood by the courthouse side,
Only as wide as the door was wide;
A frame as tall, or little more,
Than the capping sill of the courthouse door

And we wondered, whenever we had the time.
Who the criminal, what the crime.
That Hangman judged with the yellow twist
of knotted hemp in his busy fist.

And innocent though we were, with dread,
We passed those eyes of buckshot lead:
Till one cried: "Hangman, who is he
For whom you raise the gallows-tree?"

Then a twinkle grew in the buckshot eye,
And he gave us a riddle instead of reply:
"He who serves me best," said he,
"Shall earn the rope on the gallows-tree."

And he stepped down. and laid his hand
On a man who came from another land
And we breathed again, for another's grief
At the Hangman's hand was our relief

And the gallows-frame on the courthouse lawn
By tomorrow's sun would be struck and gone.
So we gave him way, and no one spoke.
Out of respect for his Hangman's cloak.

2.
The next day's sun looked mildly down
On roof and street in our quiet town
And stark and black in the morning air,
The gallows-tree on the courthouse square.

And the Hangman stood at his usual stand
With the yellow hemp in his busy hand;
With his buckshot eye and his jaw like a pike
And his air so knowing and business like.

And we cried, "Hangman, have you not done
Yesterday. with the alien one?"
Then we fell silent, and stood amazed,
"Oh, not for him was the gallows raised."

He laughed a laugh as he looked at us:
"...Did you think I'd gone to all this fuss
To hang one man? That's a thing I do
To stretch a rope when the rope is new."

Then one cried "Murder!" One cried "Shame!"
And into our midst the Hangman came
To that man's place. "Do you hold," said he,
"with him that was meant for the gallows-tree?"

And he laid his hand on that one's arm.
And we shrank back in quick alarm,
And we gave him way, and no one spoke
Out of fear of his Hangman's cloak.

That night we saw with dread surprise
The Hangman's scaffold had grown in size.
Fed by the blood beneath the chute
The gallows-tree had taken root;

Now as wide, or a little more,
Than the steps that led to the courthouse door,
As tall as the writing, or nearly as tall,
Halfway up on the courthouse wall.

3.
The third he took-we had all heard tell
Was a user and infidel, and
"What," said the Hangman "have you to do
With the gallows-bound, and he a Jew?"

And we cried out, "Is this one he
Who has served you well and faithfully?"
The Hangman smiled: "It's a clever scheme
to try the strength of the gallows-beam."

The fourth man's dark, accusing song
Had scratched out comfort hard and long;
And what concern, he gave us back.
"Have you for the doomed--the doomed and black?"

The fifth. The sixth. And we cried again,
"Hangman, Hangman, is this the last?"
"It's a trick," he said. "that we hangmen know
For easing the trap when the trap springs slow.""

And so we ceased, and asked no more,
As the Hangman tallied his bloody score:
And sun by sun, and night by night,
The gallows grew to monstrous height.

The wings of the scaffold opened wide
Till they covered the square from side to side:
And the monster cross-beam, looking down.
Cast its shadow across the town.

4.
Then through the town the Hangman came
And called in the empty streets my name-
And I looked at the gallows soaring tall
And thought, "There is no one left at all

For hanging." And so he calls to me
To help pull down the gallows-tree.
And I went out with right good hope
To the Hangman's tree and the Hangman's rope.

He smiled at me as I came down
To the courthouse square through the silent town.
And supple and stretched in his busy hand
Was the yellow twist of the strand.

And he whistled his tune as he tried the trap
And it sprang down with a ready snap
And then with a smile of awful command
He laid his hand upon my hand.

"You tricked me. Hangman!," I shouted then.
"That your scaffold was built for other men...
And I no henchman of yours," I cried,
"You lied to me. Hangman. foully lied!"

Then a twinkle grew in the buckshot eye,
"Lied to you? Tricked you?" he said. "Not I.
For I answered straight and I told you true"
The scaffold was raised for none but you.

For who has served me more faithfully
Then you with your coward's hope?" said he,
"And where are the others that might have stood
Side by your side in the common good?,"

"Dead," I whispered, and sadly
"Murdered," the Hangman corrected me:
"First the alien, then the Jew...
I did no more than you let me do."

Beneath the beam that blocked the sky.
None had stood so alone as I
And the Hangman strapped me, and no voice there
Cried "Stay!" for me in the empty square
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon May 07, 2007 2:54 pm

The Road Less Travelled

Child Roland to the Dark Tower Came

Prometheus - by Lord Byron, I think there are others

Of course Edgar Allen Poe is great
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Postby The Gunslinger on Mon May 07, 2007 2:56 pm

the oddysey is too damn long i might just do it to see what she says though. and i like the hangman. any more suggestions?
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Postby Chad22342 on Mon May 07, 2007 2:57 pm

The Iliad...
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Postby The Gunslinger on Mon May 07, 2007 2:58 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:The Road Less Travelled

Child Roland to the Dark Tower Came

Prometheus - by Lord Byron, I think there are others

Of course Edgar Allen Poe is great


yea now at first i was thinking about the Childe Roland to the Dark Tower because i just got done with series, i didnt read all of it but does it have like a deeper meaning or whatever that make poems great?
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Postby Anarkistsdream on Mon May 07, 2007 2:59 pm

The Gunslinger wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:The Road Less Travelled

Child Roland to the Dark Tower Came

Prometheus - by Lord Byron, I think there are others

Of course Edgar Allen Poe is great


yea now at first i was thinking about the Childe Roland to the Dark Tower because i just got done with series, i didnt read all of it but does it have like a deeper meaning or whatever that make poems great?



All poetry is amazing and has a deeper meaning... But then, I have an Engl;ish degree, so that's just kind of beat into me.
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Postby The Gunslinger on Mon May 07, 2007 3:02 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:
The Gunslinger wrote:
Anarkistsdream wrote:The Road Less Travelled

Child Roland to the Dark Tower Came

Prometheus - by Lord Byron, I think there are others

Of course Edgar Allen Poe is great


yea now at first i was thinking about the Childe Roland to the Dark Tower because i just got done with series, i didnt read all of it but does it have like a deeper meaning or whatever that make poems great?



All poetry is amazing and has a deeper meaning... But then, I have an Engl;ish degree, so that's just kind of beat into me.


see yea i wish i thought like that but i take of lot things literally so poetry just isnt for me, that and the fact that i dont like put my emotions and feelings out there for everyone to see, i perfer to let it all build up until one day i wont be able to hold it anymore and i snap YAY
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Postby The Gunslinger on Mon May 07, 2007 3:19 pm

unriggable wrote:The Hangman (by Maurice Ogden, I think)
1.
Into our town the Hangman came.
Smelling of gold and blood and flame
and he paced our bricks with a diffident air
and built his frame on the courthouse square

The scaffold stood by the courthouse side,
Only as wide as the door was wide;
A frame as tall, or little more,
Than the capping sill of the courthouse door

And we wondered, whenever we had the time.
Who the criminal, what the crime.
That Hangman judged with the yellow twist
of knotted hemp in his busy fist.

And innocent though we were, with dread,
We passed those eyes of buckshot lead:
Till one cried: "Hangman, who is he
For whom you raise the gallows-tree?"

Then a twinkle grew in the buckshot eye,
And he gave us a riddle instead of reply:
"He who serves me best," said he,
"Shall earn the rope on the gallows-tree."

And he stepped down. and laid his hand
On a man who came from another land
And we breathed again, for another's grief
At the Hangman's hand was our relief

And the gallows-frame on the courthouse lawn
By tomorrow's sun would be struck and gone.
So we gave him way, and no one spoke.
Out of respect for his Hangman's cloak.

2.
The next day's sun looked mildly down
On roof and street in our quiet town
And stark and black in the morning air,
The gallows-tree on the courthouse square.

And the Hangman stood at his usual stand
With the yellow hemp in his busy hand;
With his buckshot eye and his jaw like a pike
And his air so knowing and business like.

And we cried, "Hangman, have you not done
Yesterday. with the alien one?"
Then we fell silent, and stood amazed,
"Oh, not for him was the gallows raised."

He laughed a laugh as he looked at us:
"...Did you think I'd gone to all this fuss
To hang one man? That's a thing I do
To stretch a rope when the rope is new."

Then one cried "Murder!" One cried "Shame!"
And into our midst the Hangman came
To that man's place. "Do you hold," said he,
"with him that was meant for the gallows-tree?"

And he laid his hand on that one's arm.
And we shrank back in quick alarm,
And we gave him way, and no one spoke
Out of fear of his Hangman's cloak.

That night we saw with dread surprise
The Hangman's scaffold had grown in size.
Fed by the blood beneath the chute
The gallows-tree had taken root;

Now as wide, or a little more,
Than the steps that led to the courthouse door,
As tall as the writing, or nearly as tall,
Halfway up on the courthouse wall.

3.
The third he took-we had all heard tell
Was a user and infidel, and
"What," said the Hangman "have you to do
With the gallows-bound, and he a Jew?"

And we cried out, "Is this one he
Who has served you well and faithfully?"
The Hangman smiled: "It's a clever scheme
to try the strength of the gallows-beam."

The fourth man's dark, accusing song
Had scratched out comfort hard and long;
And what concern, he gave us back.
"Have you for the doomed--the doomed and black?"

The fifth. The sixth. And we cried again,
"Hangman, Hangman, is this the last?"
"It's a trick," he said. "that we hangmen know
For easing the trap when the trap springs slow.""

And so we ceased, and asked no more,
As the Hangman tallied his bloody score:
And sun by sun, and night by night,
The gallows grew to monstrous height.

The wings of the scaffold opened wide
Till they covered the square from side to side:
And the monster cross-beam, looking down.
Cast its shadow across the town.

4.
Then through the town the Hangman came
And called in the empty streets my name-
And I looked at the gallows soaring tall
And thought, "There is no one left at all

For hanging." And so he calls to me
To help pull down the gallows-tree.
And I went out with right good hope
To the Hangman's tree and the Hangman's rope.

He smiled at me as I came down
To the courthouse square through the silent town.
And supple and stretched in his busy hand
Was the yellow twist of the strand.

And he whistled his tune as he tried the trap
And it sprang down with a ready snap
And then with a smile of awful command
He laid his hand upon my hand.

"You tricked me. Hangman!," I shouted then.
"That your scaffold was built for other men...
And I no henchman of yours," I cried,
"You lied to me. Hangman. foully lied!"

Then a twinkle grew in the buckshot eye,
"Lied to you? Tricked you?" he said. "Not I.
For I answered straight and I told you true"
The scaffold was raised for none but you.

For who has served me more faithfully
Then you with your coward's hope?" said he,
"And where are the others that might have stood
Side by your side in the common good?,"

"Dead," I whispered, and sadly
"Murdered," the Hangman corrected me:
"First the alien, then the Jew...
I did no more than you let me do."

Beneath the beam that blocked the sky.
None had stood so alone as I
And the Hangman strapped me, and no voice there
Cried "Stay!" for me in the empty square


now i could be completly wrong about this, but is this poem how people really only care about themselves? you dont really care as long as the hangman doesnt pick you?
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Postby btownmeggy on Mon May 07, 2007 3:30 pm

Originally written in English, I assume?
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Postby The Gunslinger on Mon May 07, 2007 3:32 pm

yes
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Postby MeDeFe on Mon May 07, 2007 3:40 pm

If you want "deeper meaning and stuff like that", don't do Poe. Poe's a great poet, but he deliberately didn't put any deeper meaning into his poems and stories.
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Postby btownmeggy on Mon May 07, 2007 5:49 pm

MeDeFe wrote:If you want "deeper meaning and stuff like that", don't do Poe. Poe's a great poet, but he deliberately didn't put any deeper meaning into his poems and stories.


ROFLMAO.
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Postby Jafnhár on Mon May 07, 2007 5:58 pm

MeDeFe wrote:If you want "deeper meaning and stuff like that", don't do Poe. Poe's a great poet, but he deliberately didn't put any deeper meaning into his poems and stories.


Now, that is an interesting point of view.
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Postby Fireside Poet on Mon May 07, 2007 6:02 pm

One of my favorites happens to be Poe's "Alone"

From childhood's hour I have not been
As others were — I have not seen
As others saw — I could not bring
My passions from a common spring —
From the same source I have not taken
My sorrow — I could not awaken
My heart to joy at the same tone —
And all I lov'd — I lov'd alone —
Then — in my childhood — in the dawn
Of a most stormy life — was drawn
From ev'ry depth of good and ill
The mystery which binds me still —
From the torrent, or the fountain —
From the red cliff of the mountain —
From the sun that 'round me roll'd
In its autumn tint of gold —
From the lightning in the sky
As it pass'd me flying by —
From the thunder, and the storm —
And the cloud that took the form
(When the rest of Heaven was blue)
Of a demon in my view —
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Postby Jolly Roger on Mon May 07, 2007 6:08 pm

William Carlos Williams is your man. Check it out:

so much depends
upon

a red wheel
barrow

glazed with rain
water

beside the white
chickens.

What makes it an excellent poem to analyze:
1) It's short
2) It's totally wide open to interpretation
3) It's short
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Postby The Gunslinger on Mon May 07, 2007 7:25 pm

well i have to tell her which poem i picked tommarow and i decided to go with alone by Poe thanks for all your suggestions guys it reallly helped me out
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Postby pepperonibread on Mon May 07, 2007 7:36 pm

Well, I guess you're done, but here's a freakin' sweet sonnet I wrote in English class:

Oh lovely toothbrush full of crystal shine,
Thy wrought of glassy plastic oh so clear,
I am so proud to say that you are mine,
You are the toothbrush that I hold so dear.
Your rubber grip it lets me hold you tight,
Allows a perfect brushing ev’ry time,
Thy shaft is stiff and strong but also light,
When I am done my teeth are free of grime.
Thy shine of glass as brilliant as the sun,
Why even in the darkness you prevail,
Without a doubt you are the only one,
For when you brush my teeth you never fail.
Your friends the floss, the paste, the dentist too,
Of them not one could I compare to you.

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Postby Aimless on Mon May 07, 2007 7:51 pm

I second the motion for The Road Less Travelled. Probably my favorite poem; I can quote it by memory. Anything else by Frost is good, too; especially Stopping By Woods On A Snowy Evening or Mending Wall.

I'm also a fan of Elizabeth Bishop; The Bight is a really good poem of hers.

If you want to actually do some work and put some thought into it, pick one of Shakespeare's Sonnets, or something by Ben Jonson.
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