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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby jonty125 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:57 am

Read up now, when we're talking about "the book", do we mean the Necromicon,

/ wrote:The final Elder Thing of the group knew it had to keep the Necronomicon away from the waiting sealed Gods. It dove into the sea, on a line back to the Elder Thing’s deep hideaway, passing above the city of Y'ha-nthlei, the creature is swarmed by the Deep One inhabitants,fulfilling the bidding of The Great Cthulhu. Familiar with the attacks and tactics of the anphibous minons of Father Dagon and Mother Hydra, the elder thing surfaces to the air.
The elder thing was fast, but even it could not see the flying monstrosity that in a blink of an eye tore through its wings and sent it barreling back towards the shore.
Helpless, and in the center of the convergence of Human, Byakhee, and Deep One,the Elder thing resigned itself to its fate.

Once again the prized Necronomicon would be claimed.

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Which ghostly "dropped". Of course, if he dropped it in the city of Arya it would magically return to him as it is a such an amazing city I am the prince of.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby betiko on Mon Nov 26, 2012 6:08 am

jonty125 wrote:Read up now, when we're talking about "the book", do we mean the Necromicon,

/ wrote:The final Elder Thing of the group knew it had to keep the Necronomicon away from the waiting sealed Gods. It dove into the sea, on a line back to the Elder Thing’s deep hideaway, passing above the city of Y'ha-nthlei, the creature is swarmed by the Deep One inhabitants,fulfilling the bidding of The Great Cthulhu. Familiar with the attacks and tactics of the anphibous minons of Father Dagon and Mother Hydra, the elder thing surfaces to the air.
The elder thing was fast, but even it could not see the flying monstrosity that in a blink of an eye tore through its wings and sent it barreling back towards the shore.
Helpless, and in the center of the convergence of Human, Byakhee, and Deep One,the Elder thing resigned itself to its fate.

Once again the prized Necronomicon would be claimed.

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Night Four Begins, you have until Sunday.


Which ghostly "dropped". Of course, if he dropped it in the city of Arya it would magically return to him as it is a such an amazing city I am the prince of.



? so what do you mean exactly, that he would ve been revived in your city, that he wouldn't really have died if he had become a citizen of your city? or just that the book would've been safe with you? I'm really puzzled by your role.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby jonty125 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:00 am

betiko wrote:? so what do you mean exactly, that he would ve been revived in your city, that he wouldn't really have died if he had become a citizen of your city? or just that the book would've been safe with you? I'm really puzzled by your role.


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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby jak111 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:04 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:Jak has said that someone is sealed and that he dies if he visits them. I do not believe Jak is being forthcoming with all the relevant information. For me to consider letting him live I would want a full claim.


Read again, only unsealed Elder Gods kill me. Right now they seem to be sealed up and locked away until they retrieve the book. Which would = a bonus to me and NO clears from me visiting people.

You will not receive a full claim Iron until I see the cooperation of the people. To out what I know so far is dangerous to me. The Elder Gods know that I am vulnerable to anti town night kills. You wish that I stick my neck out further for you? Give me something concrete and something that I can trust will benefit me as well. If you want a full claim from me, I want to know what you have to offer that will help me obtain my wc. If you cannot then I do not see why I must put my neck out further for anyone than I already have with what I've claimed so far.

For one saying "letting him live" you are unknown to any of us Iron, right now I am choosing to believe you are not an Elder God due to the ignorance you show about them. If you know so much Lovecraft history you'd know how these Elder Gods are sealed and how they become unsealed and what happens to them when they're unsealed. Though, you could be playing ignorant to hide the fact that you know exactly what will happen if they retrieve the book.

I agree with Kanin, I do not wish to have the book because it's bad to have me against the Elder Gods and having something they want. It's best in the hands it's in now and will stay there if we rid ourselves of the ones seeking for the book in the first place.

Fastposted. Seriously, what are you claiming Jonty? You're going around everything.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby jonty125 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:20 am

jak111 wrote:Fastposted. Seriously, what are you claiming Jonty? You're going around everything.


I'm the PRINCE OF ARYA! What do you think I am? God? Of course not. Please visit our magnificent city.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:35 am

Some faction must win this game.

Maybe the Elder Gods are the "bad guys" for lack of a better word. That does not make your win condition any better for any one else. You are saying "screw you, whats in it for me". In essence we have a baddie who is caught between a rock and a hard place.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:42 am

Iron Butterfly wrote:Some faction must win this game.

Maybe the Elder Gods are the "bad guys" for lack of a better word. That does not make your win condition any better for any one else. You are saying "screw you, whats in it for me". In essence we have a baddie who is caught between a rock and a hard place.


So you're an elder God?

Jonty, why would you guys keep PCM twice? What possible advantage was there?

If you guys only need to survive, why bother possessing anyone at all? Couldn't you just not possess people and still survive?

Also, the wiki directly says you are at war the flying polyps aka "Elder Things".

Hmm... Where have we heard that phrase before?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby jonty125 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 7:46 am

DoomYoshi wrote:
Jonty, why would you guys keep PCM twice? What possible advantage was there?

If you guys only need to survive, why bother possessing anyone at all? Couldn't you just not possess people and still survive?


I think you might have got me confused with someone else.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:03 am

jonty125 wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
Jonty, why would you guys keep PCM twice? What possible advantage was there?

If you guys only need to survive, why bother possessing anyone at all? Couldn't you just not possess people and still survive?


I think you might have got me confused with someone else.


Yea, I meant new guy. I always get you two confused...
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby rishaed on Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:13 am

jonty125 wrote:
jak111 wrote:Fastposted. Seriously, what are you claiming Jonty? You're going around everything.


I'm the PRINCE OF ARYA! What do you think I am? God? Of course not. Please visit our magnificent city.

I already did once, and I lost my vote because of it you know. Of course at taht time I Was the Prince of Arya not you so hush.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby betiko on Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:31 am

rishaed wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
jak111 wrote:Fastposted. Seriously, what are you claiming Jonty? You're going around everything.


I'm the PRINCE OF ARYA! What do you think I am? God? Of course not. Please visit our magnificent city.

I already did once, and I lost my vote because of it you know. Of course at taht time I Was the Prince of Arya not you so hush.


what the hell are you inventing rishaed? that is an ugly pile of cowpoo. There is only 1 and he has been this guy since day 2. You can't both be the same character just because you are yoshi human too but nice try.
Seems like jonty is desperately trying to sell his thing to unaligned and want us to worship him.
By the way, could it be that ctuluh and others awake if people start worshiping them? People like hippo or jonty that are apparently trying to get people worshipping them?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby pancakemix on Mon Nov 26, 2012 8:42 am

betiko wrote:By the way, could it be that ctuluh and others awake if people start worshiping them? People like hippo or jonty that are apparently trying to get people worshipping them?


Hmm...

R'lyeh
Arya

Those don't look that different. And this thread comes up on Google for "arya lovecraft" before any relevant Lovecraft stuff...

Heh, I think Jonty is trying to get us to summon Cthulhu. And I think he needs to be lynched, not vigged.

Vote Jonty

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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:01 am

DoomYoshi wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:Some faction must win this game.

Maybe the Elder Gods are the "bad guys" for lack of a better word. That does not make your win condition any better for any one else. You are saying "screw you, whats in it for me". In essence we have a baddie who is caught between a rock and a hard place.


So you're an elder God?

Jonty, why would you guys keep PCM twice? What possible advantage was there?

If you guys only need to survive, why bother possessing anyone at all? Couldn't you just not possess people and still survive?

Also, the wiki directly says you are at war the flying polyps aka "Elder Things".

Hmm... Where have we heard that phrase before?


Sounds to me like your flailing around and you certainly have not been reading what has been going on.

If you had been you would realize your information about Polyps and Elder Things is a day late and a dollar short.

I have never even remotely suggested I am an Elder God.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby jonty125 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 9:13 am

rishaed wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
jak111 wrote:Fastposted. Seriously, what are you claiming Jonty? You're going around everything.


I'm the PRINCE OF ARYA! What do you think I am? God? Of course not. Please visit our magnificent city.

I already did once, and I lost my vote because of it you know. Of course at taht time I Was the Prince of Arya not you so hush.


Hmm, I still have my vote vote rishaed to see if the magnificent prince of Arya has a magnificent vote, I expect to flash at least three different colours.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby DoomYoshi on Mon Nov 26, 2012 12:04 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:
DoomYoshi wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:Some faction must win this game.

Maybe the Elder Gods are the "bad guys" for lack of a better word. That does not make your win condition any better for any one else. You are saying "screw you, whats in it for me". In essence we have a baddie who is caught between a rock and a hard place.


So you're an elder God?

Jonty, why would you guys keep PCM twice? What possible advantage was there?

If you guys only need to survive, why bother possessing anyone at all? Couldn't you just not possess people and still survive?

Also, the wiki directly says you are at war the flying polyps aka "Elder Things".

Hmm... Where have we heard that phrase before?


Sounds to me like your flailing around and you certainly have not been reading what has been going on.

If you had been you would realize your information about Polyps and Elder Things is a day late and a dollar short.

I have never even remotely suggested I am an Elder God.


Why are you defending the Elder Gods then?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby new guy1 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 2:29 pm

@doom- I actually skimmed over the wiki as I was trying to find possible enemies I may have in the game, but I did not realize the Polyps and Elder Things were the same thing. I do find it funny that you bring them up though, because the only person who could still be considered an Elder thing (provided we got all the real ones) is rishaed, and he only attached himself to their WC. If I were against them, then 1) wouldnt I know they were the same thing (IK I can be playing dumb, but trust me Im not) and 2) wouldnt I be trying to pressure anyone who even resembled an Elder Thing? I am just trying to survive, and I dont know why you are so against believing me. My group has been up front with the killing role, and we plan to be upfront with any role that is suspicious, so why dont you want to cooperate?
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby jak111 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:21 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:Sounds to me like...


Sounds to me like you are protecting the Elder Gods, whether you are one or are a follower of one I neither care nor will remorse your death in the game.

Unvote, Vote Iron Butterfly

I'm glad you've posted scummy stuff while I was at school because now I can come down with my full eyes on you. I've given you a chance to output your view on the Elder Gods and even with the knowledge of the book stuff you refuse to believe me. I know you're not a stupid player Iron B, and that's where you slipped. You're NOT stupid, and the fact that you are playing ignorant to the Elder Gods possessing the book shows me that you are SUPPORTING them having it. Making you an enemy to me and an enemy to those who will be affected if the Elder Gods obtain the book.

The secret part of my role is about the book, I know a bit more than what I've let on so far about it, but know that your WC's are partially a lie. That's why the added "Survive" is in there. If it was just as simple as surviving everyone would have won by now because everyone just needs to "Survive"

So Iron B, you've painted a red cross hair on your head today. You're helping the ONLY faction in the game right now that is not win-able with by anyone else (unless unaligned humans align with them I assume). Now the question that remains is why? Why are you so heavily defending the faction you claim to not be part of? Evidence in this game has pointed to them being the bad guys, my WC points to it, the book points to it, even the fact that they wont out to deny what I'm saying about them points to it.

My vote stays on you Iron B because you refuse to see the above or you choose not to see it because it affects your ability to stay hidden. If you REALLY want to cause a stir, why not claim what you are and why you so much as defend them? If you're an Elder God, tell us why you denied it earlier and would not claim it. There's many questions that you are creating that I know I want answers to if not anyone else.

Iron Butterfly wrote:Some faction must win this game.

Maybe the Elder Gods are the "bad guys" for lack of a better word. That does not make your win condition any better for any one else. You are saying "screw you, whats in it for me". In essence we have a baddie who is caught between a rock and a hard place.


Yes, I am saying "screw you, what's in it for me" metaphorically because YOU wont out what you have to share about your role Iron. You expect others to out at your will alone. If Doom, New Guy, or somebody else asked me about it, I'd gladly share what I know because they have been forthcoming with their information as well. But you have not. You're right, some faction must win the game, but why can't it be multiple factions if we eliminate the common enemy? Why must we let them live when they have proven to not be forward with us? Why must we allow them a chance for their WC when it is against everyone else? If I were falsely claiming all of this, why do they not out and counter me? Why do they not defend themselves from the accusations I have placed upon them? Why do they sit in the background as everyone else works their ass off to work toward a shared goal?

If you cannot answer any of those questions and seriously expect me to not want to know what answering to you, my potential enemy, without getting anything in return, then yes. Metaphorically I will say "screw you, what's in it for me?" If you have a problem with that then I suggest you take it up with someone else who isn't trying to win and hopefully work with other factions to achieve that win condition.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:46 pm

The big bad God is putting his eyes on me?? Funny. reeks of desperation on your part more then anything.

I have been dropping hints all through out the game as to my role. Those who have it will know I am truthful.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby new guy1 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:53 pm

Well you know, if theres enough suspicion maybe I will just check whats inside your head ;)
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Nov 26, 2012 3:57 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:The big bad God is putting his eyes on me?? Funny. reeks of desperation on your part more then anything.

I have been dropping hints all through out the game as to my role. Those who have it will know I am truthful.


I was never protecting the Elder Gods. I was thinking out loud, as I do most games. I decided to go through night scenes to figure who and what was in game. The Elder Gods seem to be against both the Old Ones and Outer Gods. If you were to read this it shows that the Elder Gods were more about ignoring the humans then wanting to destroy them. That is all I was saying.

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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby rishaed on Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:07 pm

betiko wrote:
rishaed wrote:
jonty125 wrote:
jak111 wrote:Fastposted. Seriously, what are you claiming Jonty? You're going around everything.


I'm the PRINCE OF ARYA! What do you think I am? God? Of course not. Please visit our magnificent city.

I already did once, and I lost my vote because of it you know. Of course at taht time I Was the Prince of Arya not you so hush.


what the hell are you inventing rishaed? that is an ugly pile of cowpoo. There is only 1 and he has been this guy since day 2. You can't both be the same character just because you are yoshi human too but nice try.
Seems like jonty is desperately trying to sell his thing to unaligned and want us to worship him.
By the way, could it be that ctuluh and others awake if people start worshiping them? People like hippo or jonty that are apparently trying to get people worshipping them?

It was the result of action #1 for N2, neither permanent or a role change, however I think if i had continued to use it I might of had a role change, however I neither know if it is positive or just a temp result for me. But since i visited the city and thought I was a prince of royal blood and told everyone else, I lost my vote.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby jak111 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:56 pm

Iron Butterfly wrote:The big bad God is putting his eyes on me?? Funny. reeks of desperation on your part more then anything.

I have been dropping hints all through out the game as to my role. Those who have it will know I am truthful.


"Those who have it" So basically admitting to being an Elder God? This is what I mean, you're too vague and too protective of the Elder Gods. Who else will have your role if you aren't an Elder God Iron? Pretty much everybody is claimed or known by one person or another.

Besides that, you haven't answered half of the questions besieged upon you Iron, not even an attempt. Not sure if you're hoping linking people to the wiki is going to throw suspicion from you Iron, but it definitely wont throw my suspicion away. A lot of eyes are on me Iron due to New Guy's results which I will happily ask for him to retry taking over my mind in case it was an outside job. But with their eyes on me and me on you, it will eventually point to you when they realize the potential of you being an Elder God.

ANOTHER thing you forgot to do was even talk about what you think about the Elder Gods seeking for the book.

I told you my eyes are on you Iron and every slip you make today I will point them out.

Elder Gods = Not outing and helping town/3rd parties toward their WC or sharing their own roles/WC with the rest.
Iron Butterfly = Not outing and helping town/3rd parties toward their WC or sharing his own role/WC with the rest of us.

The two of you have common traits Iron. Neither of you are interested in helping others out, so it will not surprise me one bit if you flip Elder God.

New Guy, I ask for your help to fulfill my WC and eliminate the threat from the rest of the people. Will you side with me today in my battle against the Elder Gods? The same goes with the rest of the town/third parties. I feel strongly that Iron has slipped enough that I believe him to be one of the Elder Gods we seek. All I ask is for your help to prove myself right and eliminate 1 more threat against us.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby jak111 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:01 pm

But I will ask you a set of questions Iron that you deserve a chance to at least defend yourself with.

~ Why do you think the Elder Gods are trying to hide from everyone else?
~ What do you think will happen if they get the book?
~ How many do you believe there to be in the game?
~ Do you truly think they are sided with us if they have a killing ability?
~ Who do you think can win with them if they fulfill whatever their WC is? (Most likely the book from what I know about it)

Answer those questions Iron, don't twiddle around them and be straight up with answering each one. Don't point toward wiki's don't vaguely try to defend your personal self. But just answer the questions in what you believe to be accurate.
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Postby safariguy5 on Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:06 pm

I thought that jonty had simply gone a bit insane. Arya comments seem to be a PR of some kind.

I'd like to think that at least I'm cleared as a town JOAT by multiple people. Not sure if possessing the book would make me unstable, but I'd like to think I could be entrusted with it.
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Re: [Official]H.P. Lovecraft Mafia Day Five, One Needed

Postby Iron Butterfly on Mon Nov 26, 2012 5:34 pm

jak111 wrote:
Iron Butterfly wrote:The big bad God is putting his eyes on me?? Funny. reeks of desperation on your part more then anything.

I have been dropping hints all through out the game as to my role. Those who have it will know I am truthful.


"Those who have it" So basically admitting to being an Elder God? This is what I mean, you're too vague and too protective of the Elder Gods. Who else will have your role if you aren't an Elder God Iron? Pretty much everybody is claimed or known by one person or another.

Besides that, you haven't answered half of the questions besieged upon you Iron, not even an attempt. Not sure if you're hoping linking people to the wiki is going to throw suspicion from you Iron, but it definitely wont throw my suspicion away. A lot of eyes are on me Iron due to New Guy's results which I will happily ask for him to retry taking over my mind in case it was an outside job. But with their eyes on me and me on you, it will eventually point to you when they realize the potential of you being an Elder God.

ANOTHER thing you forgot to do was even talk about what you think about the Elder Gods seeking for the book.

I told you my eyes are on you Iron and every slip you make today I will point them out.

Elder Gods = Not outing and helping town/3rd parties toward their WC or sharing their own roles/WC with the rest.
Iron Butterfly = Not outing and helping town/3rd parties toward their WC or sharing his own role/WC with the rest of us.

The two of you have common traits Iron. Neither of you are interested in helping others out, so it will not surprise me one bit if you flip Elder God.

New Guy, I ask for your help to fulfill my WC and eliminate the threat from the rest of the people. Will you side with me today in my battle against the Elder Gods? The same goes with the rest of the town/third parties. I feel strongly that Iron has slipped enough that I believe him to be one of the Elder Gods we seek. All I ask is for your help to prove myself right and eliminate 1 more threat against us.


Your talking out of your rear trying to make a case where there is none.
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