Are you in the ARMY?Navy?Air Force? or Coast Gaurd?

[Vincent M]

what are you going to do when they come for you.

Could you stop putting the flashlight underneath your face trying to scare us

It is a modern age we dont need bodies to fight as much besides our enemy can't even be found (most of the time)

Why through Lives into the field when we dont even know what we are doing right now

[Iz Man]

What if you don't believe in kill human beings........then are you a pussy ???

If someone is trying to kill you and/or your comrades, and you decide to throw your hands up and surrender because you "don't believe in killing human beings", then yes, you're a pussy.

[Vincent M]

What if you don't believe in kill human beings........then are you a pussy ???

If someone is trying to kill you and/or your comrades, and you decide to throw your hands up and surrender because you "don't believe in killing human beings", then yes, you're a pussy.

Ok but right now no one has tried to kill me or my comrades so Why FIGHT.

We are attacking places that make no sense towards the supposing war on terror..........

[Warrior987]

What if you don't believe in kill human beings........then are you a pussy ???

If someone is trying to kill you and/or your comrades, and you decide to throw your hands up and surrender because you "don't believe in killing human beings", then yes, you're a pussy.

Ok but right now no one has tried to kill me or my comrades so Why FIGHT.

We are attacking places that make no sense towards the supposing war on terror..........

He killed his own country men......That should be enough reason for anyone to dispose of him.

[Vincent M]

Yes ok but what about North Korea and How about Dafur

We looked past those because there is nothing their for us

But in Iraq they got texas tea (oil) and because of that we all of a sudden get concerned about lives

[Iz Man]

Ok but right now no one has tried to kill me or my comrades so Why FIGHT.

We are attacking places that make no sense towards the supposing war on terror..........

Were any of those people killed on 9-11 your comrades? They were mine.

This thread is not about debating the war, it started out by just asking people if they were, are currently, or plan to be in the military. Some decided to chime in with other comments.

If you chose not to fight, fine. Fortunately for you, there are people like me and MANY others, who have fought to protect you.

Don't worry, while you run, we'll stand and fight and make sure noone hurts you.

[Vincent M]

Yes they were my comrades but I don't see us fighting the right people

most of the terrorists were IRANIAN

Why are we in Iraq?

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Don't worry, while you run, we'll stand and fight and make sure noone hurts you.

Thank you

[Iz Man]

Yes they were my comrades but I don't see us fighting the right people
most of the terrorists were IRANIAN
Why are we in Iraq?

Once again, this thread is not about debating the war. Therefore, I will not respond to your question here.

If you feel like slamming the military, the people who join, or what seems to be the common flame here, the reasons for joining the military, then I'll be happy to pound any arguments into the ground.

[Guiscard]

check this out. Islam wants all of use to convert to the islamic way of life. anyone who is not are either considered less than pond scum or a slave if not dead.

Islam= Iraq, Iran, Afganistan....too many to mention.
the excuse may have been WMR. but, if you think about it. it is much much more. our freedoms are at stake here.

Complete bollocks. Some branches of extremist Islam (e.g. Al-Qaeda) do want global Islamic law, but thats A FEW EXTREMISTS! Thats like saying that countries like people in the UK want to lynch black people because a few guys in the KKK do who say their christians.

Don't be such an ignorant fool. Being a vet doesn't excuse biggoted and xenophobic sensationalism.

[lord twiggy1]

anyone who thinks we arent doing any good in iraq is a mindless idiot. if we pulled out of there right now the terrorists would think were sissies and it would leave us open for an attack. i know that doesnt sound like it would be true, but think about it. if we pulled into america the terrorist organizations would be free to make bombs and plot attacks on us. all with little resistance from local police. and they could cut them down like a mower an grass. i support this 100% and if you think that the war is pointless, then like i said, your a mindless idiot

[Will_Liam]

I just dont want to join anything related to the army. NEVER!!!

[Iz Man]

I just dont want to join anything related to the army. NEVER!!!

Like I said. Don't worry, we'll protect you.....

[Vincent M]

i support this 100% and if you think that the war is pointless, then like i said, your a mindless idiot

You are living in a country with mindless idiots then you might want to move

Let me pack your stuff

*gets boxes and tape ready*

[lord twiggy1]

yay, next stop, ireland

thanks for packing my bags Vincent, that makes it alot easier for me

[tseepra]

This topic just turned into debating US policies on war. If the US really wants out of Iraq then why the hell did they vote for Bush's second term.

I was in the Finnish military for 6 months, just basic training and basic anti-tank missile training. Just part of the mandatory military service we still stand by. I had some of my worst moments in life in the army, but I also got to fire 2 bazookas so it balanced out in the end.

[war_bloodline]

Because of my family background I would be proud to follow in my fathers before me in the military. Even if many have died because of it, I would join.

The question is what branch.

[She Wolf]

IZ Man. I salute you.

I was not as much talking about politics just making examples on how the good people in our armed forces have contibuted & served our country. That patriotism is not what it used to be. Pride, sense of loyalty, and civil defense, where did it go? sense of duty & justice ?

the military teaches you many things. accountability, teamwork, responsiblity and, many other skills that you take with you in life.

that's all folks.

[Genghis Khant]

I considered joining the Royal Air Force when I was a teenager, but then decided that I didn't want to sign 5 years of my life over to the government's bully boys, especially when I don't trust my government's motives.

Having said that, I have a lot of respect for people who have served in the armed forces, it's just not my cup of tea.

[lord twiggy1]

IZ Man. I salute you.

I was not as much talking about politics just making examples on how the good people in our armed forces have contibuted & served our country. That patriotism is not what it used to be. Pride, sense of loyalty, and civil defense, where did it go? sense of duty & justice ?

the military teaches you many things. accountability, teamwork, responsiblity and, many other skills that you take with you in life.

that's all folks.

[Hitman079]

i'd join if i wasn't so weak.

[Iz Man]

i'd join if i wasn't so weak.

You wouldn't be weak after boot camp.
I guarantee that.

[Nobunaga]

... Military service in the United States is strictly volunteer. That is one of many reasons it is the best on the planet. Everybody joined of his or her own free will. Certainly a small percentage of loser types develop the "F*ck this Sh*t" attitude after they've joined and realize they have to take on some responsibilities and pay the consequences for their actions, but they are a relatively small group.

... Some people say we should have mandatory service, like say Korea... But that's a bad idea, imho. Granted, it's their military service time that tends to make Korean men some of the toughest and respectable people I've ever met, but mandatory service runs contrary to the ideas of liberty.

... Politics has absolutely nothing to do with military service. The military is anti-political, as a body. Sure, soldiers have their own opinions and they have the right to vote, like anybody else, but as a whole, the military is a tool of the state, and nothing more - be it run by Dems, Republicans, Libertarians, Greens, whatever.

... I highly recommend military service to anybody who wishes to "graduate to manhood". It changes everything, even long after you've left it behind. There were times I hated it, but looking back, it was the best thing that I've ever done.

...

[Guilty_Biscuit]

I had some of my worst moments in life in the army, but I also got to fire 2 bazookas so it balanced out in the end.

I can imagine that firing bazokkas is a solution to almost every conceivable problem in life. Seriously.

[Jehan]

whats with all the guys bagging your soldiers???? In australia we never ever disrespect our soldiers, well the lefties do, but they bag out everyone so i guess its to be expected, any intelligent person who disagrees with wars such as the iraq war would attack the politicians not the the soldiers, soldiers are awesome, they make a living out of serving their country, asides from emergency services and the like, not many people live for much except themselves now days.

[Iz Man]

... Some people say we should have mandatory service, like say Korea... But that's a bad idea, imho. Granted, it's their military service time that tends to make Korean men some of the toughest and respectable people I've ever met, but mandatory service runs contrary to the ideas of liberty.

... I highly recommend military service to anybody who wishes to "graduate to manhood". It changes everything, even long after you've left it behind. There were times I hated it, but looking back, it was the best thing that I've ever done.
...

Well said. Part of me does agree with some sort of mandatory service. I believe Finland, Norway & Germany require it. I believe it helps instill a sense of pride of where your from, and a sense of duty. It doesn't have to be military service either. In Germany, consciencious objectors may do their service as civil servants instead of the military.

It is a slippery slope though. If I had to vote on it, I would say no.

There were certainly times when I said "what the hell am I doing?". Typically those thoughts arive when you show up at basic training.
Later I realized that it was a good thing I was saying that to myself, it meant they were doing their job.

There are 30+ year olds I know that still have the maturity of a 17 yr old. There are 18 yr old military personnel that have the maturity of a 35 yr old. THAT'S what the service will do for you. Make you grow up.

But hey, some 17 & 18 yr olds would prefer to keep their maturity at that level. Their choice.........