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Re: What's the odds

Postby lt.Futt on Tue Sep 11, 2012 8:03 am

Seulessliathan wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:for being second in order 1/5 in my recent 25-30 1v1 speed games?


Timminz wrote:Dear it.futt,

I have inspected your previous 28 1v1 matches that your case in terminal. Your having only managed to go first in five of those 28 matches



given 5 starts in 28 games, odds are 0,0366%


That's low.

Any better?
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Re: What's the odds

Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:44 am

Are you just curious about the answer or is this essentially a dice complainer thread?
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Re: What's the odds

Postby GeneralRisk on Tue Sep 11, 2012 11:59 am

Funkyterrance wrote:Are you just curious about the answer or is this essentially a dice complainer thread?
The odds of Funkyterrance STFU ing..........0.00000001%
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Re: What's the odds

Postby lt.Futt on Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:01 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:Are you just curious about the answer or is this essentially a dice complainer thread?


It's a complaint about being second in order in a vast majority of my 1v1 speed games. These games are no abra kadabra. Anyone can play them. Of course I believe this has impact on the result and also dice, rank, rating, winning percentage. I'm not particularily happy winning, well, what can it be, but let me guess 40 % +/-. However this may be a good result when I'm starter in 1/6 games. I am convinced that I'm capable to win 50 %.

I won't mention initial drop. I just guess noone would believe what they saw. I know some players don't believe what I say if we play fog. In a rcent a game someone took my 100 stack with 50 troops. The luck is far from my side.
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Re: What's the odds

Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Sep 11, 2012 12:17 pm

lt.Futt wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Are you just curious about the answer or is this essentially a dice complainer thread?


It's a complaint about being second in order in a vast majority of my 1v1 speed games. These games are no abra kadabra. Anyone can play them. Of course I believe this has impact on the result and also dice, rank, rating, winning percentage. I'm not particularily happy winning, well, what can it be, but let me guess 40 % +/-. However this may be a good result when I'm starter in 1/6 games. I am convinced that I'm capable to win 50 %.

I won't mention initial drop. I just guess noone would believe what they saw. I know some players don't believe what I say if we play fog. In a rcent a game someone took my 100 stack with 50 troops. The luck is far from my side.


Ok so yes, It is a dice complainer's thread. That's OK, just wanted to clarify.
Unfortunately, I don't think that there is a feasible way to make it so this doesn't happen. The only possible solution I can think is that for every game that you play 1v1 with the same player, the starting player would alternate. Otherwise, any limitation on the number of times you go second would be like making a limit on the number of times you can win rolling the dice.
Odds are it will pass if you keep starting games, right? Or are you planning to push the envelope? ;)
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Re: What's the odds

Postby lt.Futt on Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:38 pm

Funkyterrance wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:Are you just curious about the answer or is this essentially a dice complainer thread?


It's a complaint about being second in order in a vast majority of my 1v1 speed games. These games are no abra kadabra. Anyone can play them. Of course I believe this has impact on the result and also dice, rank, rating, winning percentage. I'm not particularily happy winning, well, what can it be, but let me guess 40 % +/-. However this may be a good result when I'm starter in 1/6 games. I am convinced that I'm capable to win 50 %.

I won't mention initial drop. I just guess noone would believe what they saw. I know some players don't believe what I say if we play fog. In a rcent a game someone took my 100 stack with 50 troops. The luck is far from my side.


Ok so yes, It is a dice complainer's thread. That's OK, just wanted to clarify.
Unfortunately, I don't think that there is a feasible way to make it so this doesn't happen. The only possible solution I can think is that for every game that you play 1v1 with the same player, the starting player would alternate. Otherwise, any limitation on the number of times you go second would be like making a limit on the number of times you can win rolling the dice.
Odds are it will pass if you keep starting games, right? Or are you planning to push the envelope? ;)


You say categorically dice complaint. I say order and impacts.
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Re: What's the odds

Postby Funkyterrance on Tue Sep 11, 2012 3:46 pm

You could probably dramatically decrease the effect going first has by choosing specific maps. I myself like to gamble so tend to choose whatever I'm in the mood for.
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Re: What's the odds

Postby Evil Semp on Tue Sep 11, 2012 5:58 pm

lt.Futt wrote:
Timminz wrote:Dear it.futt,

I have inspected your previous 28 1v1 matches, and it appears that your case in terminal. Your having only managed to go first in five of those 28 matches, has made it apparent that you should just quit now. It doesn't get any better from here.

Sincerely,

A concerned member of the CC public


I'm sorry. I have missed this post. Thank you for taking your time go through my games! Now I have one witness! A lot apprechiated! =D>

I thought I did go first in 1/6 of my recent 1v1 games but I made it 1/5 just to be sure. And I were right.

Evil Semp wrote:He sounds like he is willing to do the math it just sounds like you have trouble counting past 5 without using your toes. You want others to agree with you but you just want them to have faith in what you say. Give them some proof.


Hey! What do you say? Both Timminz and me are liars? Give us some proof!


lt.Futt wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I don't think the odds are that astounding tbh...
Maybe the equivalent of winning on a scratch ticket?
Also, we really need to have exact numbers to be able to give a definitive answer. ;)


Why not just admit that math ain't your cup of tea? :lol:

;)


Try rereading my post. I never called you a liar. Timminz did the leg work that you were to lazy to do. Someone asked for specific numbers and you said he couldn't do the math.
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Re: What's the odds

Postby lt.Futt on Wed Sep 12, 2012 12:08 am

Evil Semp wrote:
lt.Futt wrote:
Timminz wrote:Dear it.futt,

I have inspected your previous 28 1v1 matches, and it appears that your case in terminal. Your having only managed to go first in five of those 28 matches, has made it apparent that you should just quit now. It doesn't get any better from here.

Sincerely,

A concerned member of the CC public


I'm sorry. I have missed this post. Thank you for taking your time go through my games! Now I have one witness! A lot apprechiated! =D>

I thought I did go first in 1/6 of my recent 1v1 games but I made it 1/5 just to be sure. And I were right.

Evil Semp wrote:He sounds like he is willing to do the math it just sounds like you have trouble counting past 5 without using your toes. You want others to agree with you but you just want them to have faith in what you say. Give them some proof.


Hey! What do you say? Both Timminz and me are liars? Give us some proof!


lt.Futt wrote:
Funkyterrance wrote:I don't think the odds are that astounding tbh...
Maybe the equivalent of winning on a scratch ticket?
Also, we really need to have exact numbers to be able to give a definitive answer. ;)


Why not just admit that math ain't your cup of tea? :lol:

;)


Try rereading my post. I never called you a liar. Timminz did the leg work that you were to lazy to do. Someone asked for specific numbers and you said he couldn't do the math.


Timminz did just great! Just great! I did thank Timminz and said I appreachiate a lot.

I think that I left quite autentic numbers. I thought I could have an answare estemated. Somehow I find it hard to know how to reckon/count and what to include/exclude.

Meanwhile I think there was much joking back and forth between FunkyTerrence and me. I realize the joking took a wrong turn. Between the joking I missed Timminz post, and there it was, Ladies and Gentlemen, what I asked for. Timminz numbers and mine seem to be pretty similar.

However I missed that part. I did not like the voice in your post. You said something about faith in what I said and added give them some proof. In my recpeption you indicates that I'm not reliable with my numbers. Sometimes I wish I could use my own language. If you had any idea how much time I spent typing a few lines in English both trying to be reliable, funny, select the right words, make sure I don't offend anybody, coherent sentences, correct grammar etc etc etc. Sometimes I don't even remember the most common English words. google translator is a tool though but not perfect. I assure you my English skills has improved since I joined CC in 2009. I have 4500 post in the Forum. Very much repeating but we actually try explain strategy and questions The SoC students has. I mean after all this is a discussion Forum. The temperature may get high. Native English speakers has any advantage. Native Engish speakers may be sarcastic but if no native English speakers whcich struggle with English try being sarcastic bak, we may fail. In the end there are a handful people telling that you're dumb, stupid, failed being funny. Moron what ever. Can't count to 5 without using your toes.

I could say something like spot on! but find it boring. Sometimes I'm not even sure if people are sarcastic, ironic and joking or not.

In addition I think that I'm very good in apologize to people for my English but I really try my very best. People may avoid the subject and instead make fun of my English. So, when I talk back, I get all the shit. I offend native English speaking. In an ideal world I would not but I think FunkyTerrence and I had some alright jokes. Besides this we're indivicuals. We're all different, like Brian says in Monty Python's life of Brian. What I find funny, you may not. What sound funny in my head and which I find challenging express in English may be worth trying.

On top of that you did attack me for my math skills. You indicated that I was a liar not being reliable with my numbers which later was proven was pretty autentic.

You don't own the truth alone to interpret what you say just as lil as an author own the interpretation of his book. Me as a reader of the book and me watching a movie and the subjective meeting with the world, gives me the right to interpret my meeting with the world and statements in conversations. My interpretation was that you indicated that I was a liar. I didn't like the voice in your post and added clown.

I think I know where this is going. I ask you to apologize me in the front for being harsh to you.
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Re: What's the odds

Postby Timminz on Wed Sep 12, 2012 3:34 pm

Dude, someone offered to help you answer your question, and asked for some specific numbers so that he could do the calculations for you. Rather than give him the numbers, you responded with, "why not admit that math is not your strong point".

That's called being a dick to someone who offered to help you.

Fucking pathetic...
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Re: What's the odds

Postby lt.Futt on Wed Sep 12, 2012 5:21 pm

Timminz wrote:Dude, someone offered to help you answer your question, and asked for some specific numbers so that he could do the calculations for you. Rather than give him the numbers, you responded with, "why not admit that math is not your strong point".

That's called being a dick to someone who offered to help you.

Fucking pathetic...


A bitch can't offend me.

edit: thank you for giving me the odds :lol:
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