Dexter Mafia S2. Fires Snuffed: Endgame Town and Dexter Win

by **BGtheBrain** on Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:22 pm

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by **edocsil** on Tue Sep 04, 2012 1:31 pm

Its not our fault you have no idea what you are doing. With any luck Dexter will just kill you in the night and we will be free from your idiocy.

by **safariguy5** on Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:07 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:You know there is no way to prove or disprove the game is a VT game without lynching me OR forcing another VT to claim.
If another VT claims, it would be detrimental to the town because it makes it easier for the SK's to hunt better targets.

Why'd you come out of the gate on D2 so quick against me? Why dont you answer that?
Because we havent had a VT townies killed?

If you expect so many power roles, if there is a VT (which there is) how many would you expect? Not many. But the game isnt called "Lynch the vanilla"

Your being very shortsited by only wanted to find out if this is a vanilla game or not, the object is to find the bad guys. Yes, you think Im a bad guy, but only because you dont think there are vanillas in this game.

So yes, lynch me and congrats, you lynched a vanilla townie. The game will continue, there will be 2 more NK's tonight, and youll probably be lynched for wasting all of D2. Youll probably flip town, and there will be 2 more NK's. That means 6 total deaths, leaving the game at 2SK and 2 Town roles. Then a lynch, maybe right or wrong, who knows. And the game will be over. At the end of it all, we can look back and say, "well, thank god we know for sure there were vanilla townies in this game, that really helped us"

The reason why I came out quickly is because I think we have a strong lead and I didn't want deadline pressure.

It's not a question of whether this is or isn't a vanilla game. I do not believe this is a vanilla game, therefore you lied about your vanilla claim. Lynch all Liars simple as that.

by **BGtheBrain** on Tue Sep 04, 2012 2:15 pm

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by **chapcrap** on Tue Sep 04, 2012 3:13 pm

safariguy5 wrote:Repeating the same defense over and over doesn't make it true.

Repeating the same things and calling it a case doesn't make it true.

You are only trying to play the mod and META and not actually look at BG as scummy. You're getting away with being scummy yourself. I already stated that earlier when you initially made this case and got a couple of blind people to follow behind you.

safariguy5 wrote:It's not a question of whether this is or isn't a vanilla game.

That's exactly your case... So, that is the exact question.

by **Epitaph1** on Wed Sep 05, 2012 10:16 am

The only value I see in lynching BG at this point is that it will end this day and determine, with reasonable certainty, whether or not this is a NV game. Worst case scenario is that we would lose a VT, and the best case is that he has some anti-town alignment that he might not even know about.

Saf has given a number of valid reasons why this would be a NV game, but based on BG's play, I still think he is what he says he is. I am most intrigued by the possibility that BG doesn't know the full extent of his role (Judas/Saulus) and am leaning more that this may be the case.

The only one acting like they can somehow verify that BG is VT is vodeon. Chap opposes a BG lynch because he doesn't buy what saf is selling, and, until someone raised the prospect that BG's identity could be hidden even from himself, I shared the same sentiment as Chap.

We're already running on borrowed time, but I wish vodeon could have elaborated more why she knows that BG is telling the truth. But I guess that might have exposed her role.

by **safariguy5** on Wed Sep 05, 2012 7:03 pm

chapcrap wrote:
safariguy5 wrote:Repeating the same defense over and over doesn't make it true.

Repeating the same things and calling it a case doesn't make it true.

You are only trying to play the mod and META and not actually look at BG as scummy. You're getting away with being scummy yourself. I already stated that earlier when you initially made this case and got a couple of blind people to follow behind you.
safariguy5 wrote:It's not a question of whether this is or isn't a vanilla game.

That's exactly your case... So, that is the exact question.

If I'm being scummy, then where's your evidence this isn't a NV game. If we accept that this is a NV game, then BG has lied when he said he's VT.

There is no meta involved. All my reasons are taken directly from what lynches/nightkills have shown us. I'm using actual evidence to back up my assertion that this is a NV game.

by **strike wolf** on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:39 pm

Sorry everyone. lot of chaos from the weekend. Sorting things out now. Scene upcoming.

by **strike wolf** on Wed Sep 05, 2012 9:51 pm

The town was angry. Two down and the FBI had proven useless to stop the killings. Some felt the blame was best placed on those that claimed they hadn't done anything the night previous. "Obviously you are lying. Everyone had something to do!" While others fought back. "You can't prove that maybe you had something to do but that might not be for everyone. In the end, the crowd as a whole couldn't decide on who was really to blame and were forced to give up the pursuit as the night settled in.

The day has ended in a No Lynch. You have 72 hours to send in night actions

Final Vote Count

Chapcrap
Vodean
/
Chuck
Lsutigerjosh
iron butterfly
Bgthebrain (5)-safari, Chuck, LSUtiger, Edocsil, /
Edocsil
Safariguy (3)-Bgthebrain, vodean, chap
Jonty
Epitaph

With 10 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

by **strike wolf** on Thu Sep 06, 2012 7:33 am

My schedule should be clearing up but since I have been having a difficult time keeping up with deadlines I am not going to be forcing any more unless activity stagnates.

by **strike wolf** on Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:30 am

Echoes of the Lost.

Dexter patrolled the city. The actions he had taken and the investigation weighing in on his mind. He was looking for something but he wasn't sure what any more. There were some targets that looked appealing but the only one he ever hesitated on he drove off when he noticed another person in the house. It seemed like tonight was going to be a quiet night for Dexter...until he arrived back at his apartment.

Watching his apartment burn, his first thought was not on his slides but on one word. "Deb" He said to himself rushing inside. He had made his way into the bedroom before he realized he was too late. Her body had already been engulfed and he turned around. Smoke inhalation was starting to get to him now but with Deb gone he realized he had to get to his slides. Opening up the air conditioning unit he grabbed them and rushed out just as the fire spread from the bedroom to the kitchen.

/-Debra Morgan-Town Cop has been killed.

Day 3 has begun. with 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch. There is no current deadline set.

by **edocsil** on Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:07 am

Vote BG We should have finished this yesterday, but you were too foolish to follow through.

by **BGtheBrain** on Sun Sep 09, 2012 8:13 am

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by **Iron Butterfly** on Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:41 am

edocsil wrote:Vote BG We should have finished this yesterday, but you were too foolish to follow through.

So you think BG was the killer last night?

by **safariguy5** on Sun Sep 09, 2012 12:21 pm

BGtheBrain wrote:Yes, perhaps we should waste d3 like we did d2.

I'd bet someone has something useful to add since there was only 1 kill last night.

Why yes I do.

I'm Doakes, the town roleblocker, and I roleblocked you last night BG.

vote BGtheBrain

by **BGtheBrain** on Sun Sep 09, 2012 3:02 pm

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by **edocsil** on Sun Sep 09, 2012 7:11 pm

Anyone want to CC Saf there? The role could swing either way. This does paint him as dexter in my eyes.

by **LSU Tiger Josh** on Sun Sep 09, 2012 10:44 pm

Vote bg I'm going with the role blocker on this one. Who did you previously block safari?

by **safariguy5** on Sun Sep 09, 2012 11:45 pm

LSU Tiger Josh wrote:Vote bg I'm going with the role blocker on this one. Who did you previously block safari?

Also BG on Night 1. So if we did have a BD, he may have switched BG on Night 1 with someone. I didn't believe BG after the SK lynch, and I see no better target/cases to change that.

by **Epitaph1** on Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:27 am

Assuming saf is who he says he is, the only way I see BG cleared is by the busdriver. I'll give it a day or so for the BD to step forward.

by **BGtheBrain** on Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:34 am

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by **edocsil** on Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:41 am

No indication of a busdrive, just flavor as to who Dexter is supposed to kill. Others may feel differently on this point, but that is my opinion.

by **BGtheBrain** on Mon Sep 10, 2012 6:46 am

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by **BGtheBrain** on Mon Sep 10, 2012 7:11 am

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by **vodean** on Mon Sep 10, 2012 10:39 am

BGtheBrain wrote:I think the phrase is confirmation bias isn't it?

I'm amazed after blocking me N1 and there were 2 kills that saf was so sure I was lying on D2.

The bus driver needs to come clean and say who he swapped N1 and who he swapped N2.

i think saf's claim clears BG. it means that BG could not have been responsible for the N1 SK kill. so someone else must be the SK. you guys are digging too hard. roleblocker, rather, is a very ambiguous role, and could swing town or mafia.