Golden Pantheon - Norse ~ Endgame, Scum win!

by **chapcrap** on Thu Aug 02, 2012 1:20 pm

@DJ

You never answered this:

chapcrap wrote:
Djfireside wrote:Chap 55
/ 31
Tails 50

What are the numbers after our names for?

And now that we've claimed, do you want to tell us what you were looking for?

by **Djfireside** on Thu Aug 02, 2012 2:39 pm

The numbers were from Random.org. I just ran one for each of you to determine the order that was asked. As for the question it was why the kill failed last night and just fell to the ground. I was trying to find a block or busdrive portion to it but couldnt. I was almost certain from various parts that there was a block or bus but such is life

by **chapcrap** on Thu Aug 02, 2012 3:13 pm

Djfireside wrote:The numbers were from Random.org. I just ran one for each of you to determine the order that was asked. As for the question it was why the kill failed last night and just fell to the ground. I was trying to find a block or busdrive portion to it but couldnt. I was almost certain from various parts that there was a block or bus but such is life

Perhaps he targeted the mafia person and the mafia person targeted him. Then it's a coin flip as to which actions count first? I don't know. That would be bad luck for town. If that is what happened, I would have them both die though if I was the mod. Not sure if that's how edoc plays things. Who knows?

by **Djfireside** on Thu Aug 02, 2012 4:56 pm

The only thing that makes sense at this point would be the bulletproof claim, which would mean that either PCM was lying or it got redirected. If it hit that way then it works. Which leaves me with Chaps claim which is leaving me a bit uneasy..

There was already a Mafia Hider and now a town hider? Vili is a minor charecter in the mythology and I am having issues with the claim.

As for /'s plan, I dont get why the other two are on it because if he is truthful we then have a 50/50 to win. We have 1 shot at the whole thing and It catches me off as it passed so easily but played so subtly that I dont know what to make of it.

by / on Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:13 pm

Interesting points, but I'm still more comfortable with upping the odds, as I said, I trust you mostly , so it's probably between tails and chap, but one more night eliminates one more suspect with certainty, I'm curious to see who scum kills, I'm the bigger threat, but DJ is more confirmed, it's a lose-lose situation for scum to go to the night, and frankly, just makes me feel better about the finale.
Vote No Lynch

by / on Thu Aug 02, 2012 5:14 pm

/ wrote:Interesting points, but I'm still more comfortable with upping the odds, as I said, I trust you mostly , so it's probably between tails and chap, but one more night eliminates one more suspect with certainty, I'm curious to see who scum kills, I'm the bigger threat, but DJ is more confirmed, it's a lose-lose situation for scum to go to the night, and frankly, just makes me feel better about the finale.

sorry, need green, bah, and too many items has green off limits!
Vote No lynch

by **chapcrap** on Thu Aug 02, 2012 6:12 pm

Djfireside wrote:The only thing that makes sense at this point would be the bulletproof claim, which would mean that either PCM was lying or it got redirected. If it hit that way then it works. Which leaves me with Chaps claim which is leaving me a bit uneasy..

There was already a Mafia Hider and now a town hider? Vili is a minor charecter in the mythology and I am having issues with the claim.

As for /'s plan, I dont get why the other two are on it because if he is truthful we then have a 50/50 to win. We have 1 shot at the whole thing and It catches me off as it passed so easily but played so subtly that I dont know what to make of it.

I completely didn't think about the bulletproof. That's probably the reason.

As far as my claim, I don't know enough about Norse Mythology to say who is a minor character or major charactor. I know Thor and Odin sounds familiar. As far as the rest of your claims, you could be making them up for all I know. I've not heard of any of them. I should probably look them up, but I haven't yet.

by **edocsil** on Fri Aug 03, 2012 9:24 am

Quicky VC.

No lynch, L-1

by **Djfireside** on Fri Aug 03, 2012 4:20 pm

Well lets see how the cards fall. I am still baffled as hell but will see.

Vote No Lynch

by **edocsil** on Fri Aug 03, 2012 10:36 pm

No lynch. Scene is obviously not going to have any spoilers, so feel free to send in actions before I get it posted.

That was fast. :lol:

Final scene incoming tomorrow.

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 05, 2012 5:54 pm

This was the end. Loki and his son Fenrir yet lived, and the other gods seemed yet unaware. They hummed and they hawed and in the end they good gods assumed that they only had one foe remaining. They would wait one more night yet before they decided who their last god to hang would be.

There lay their folly. Dusk fell and Loki and the wolf struck at once. Loki pointed out the target and Fenrir ripped out Heimdallr's throat, he would divine no more truth from lies.

Baldur, the last good god remaining was immortal, even beyond that of the other gods. No weapon could kill him, and so he believed he was safe. Loki knew his weakness however. Of all things, naught but mistletoe could harm him. Cunningly Loki fashioned a spear from the plant and as the last of the light faded from the sky Loki plunged the spear into Baldur's unsuspecting back.

DJfireside ~ Heimdaller Lie Detector has been killed.

Tailgunner ~ Baldur Bulletproof has been endgamed.

And so Valhalla was destroyed.

Odin, Thor, their wives, their companions and all the Vanir and all the Aesir lay dead at the feet of Loki and his offspring.

Scum have won!

/ ~ Loki
Safari ~ Hel
Chap ~ Fenrir
Jonty ~ Jormungandr

The final moves in this game were done, and Satan and Yahweh looked up.

The score was tied 2 to 2 in favor of none, but this last defeat left a bitter taste in Yahweh's mouth.

The tide has turned brother, said Satan. I have won here, and now the game begins for the mortal world. You made this wager, and soon the souls of all will belong to me.

You have failed here, and you will fail again. Men are weak, and your gods and your angels are weak as well. When I rule all will spend an eternity in torment, save for my champions, and those who most fervently do my bidding.

For once Yahweh knew fear. Perhaps this gamble was a foolish one, he liked the world as it was, and his pride may yet bring this place to ruin.

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:08 pm

Roles

/ ~ Loki Busdriver, 9 total could be used as many as desired per night
safari ~ Hel Enables scum roleblock
Chap ~ Fenrir enables scum kill, one shot BP
Jonty ~ Jormungandr Enables kill, could end game, more likely to end in favor of scum if there were fewer town
Strike Wolf ~ Odin Gov, mason team 1
soundman ~ Frigg doc, mason team 1
PCM ~ Thor vig, mason team 2
vodean ~ Sif doublevoter mason team 2
tailgunner ~ Baldur bulletproof
Mr. S ~ Freyr beloved prince took killer to grave with him, caused double night
everywhere ~ Freyja could vote after death, revived if hammered on a vote. VT after revival
DJFireside ~ Heimdallr Lie detector, 3 shot.

Actions

N1
/ ~Bus saf w/ strike
Chap ~ Kill Saf
soundman ~Doc Strike
PCM ~ Kill Saf

N2
busdrive w/ clever+chap/TG
Kill DJ
doc DJ

N3
/ ~ Bus Chap/vode
Chap ~ kill vode
Sound ~ doc dj
PCM ~ kill dj

N4
/ ~ bus chap/pcm
Chap ~ kill sound
Sound ~ doc pcm
PCM kill chap

N5
bus w/ dj chap/PCM
kill chap

N6
bus chap/tg
kill chap

by / on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:11 pm

Woo! Go Evil! :twisted:

I think mafia was a bit strong this game, 1/3 is higher than usual to start with.
I was a bit worried that safari and jonty got lynched so fast though....
Really Saf, I had edoc correct the scene and everything, town had nothing on you and you went and fake-claimed. oh well, at least it used up one of DJ's lie detectors.

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:16 pm

So thoughts, suggestions?

The scum had to have greater numbers then the town to win, due to the doublevoter and the death voter. Loki gained a half point if he won with all other members dead in his faction. This would only be possible if Thor was alive to kill a faction member, as Loki had no kill on his own, only busdrives.

I will open the new game shortly, Angels and Demons. I am going to shoot for a large game, 25 players if I can, but I want to see how it fills up before making final decisions on size. Top few players from the previous games will be able to choose alignment, but the game will be balanced after they have chosen.

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:18 pm

/ wrote:Woo! Go Evil!
I think mafia was a bit strong this game, 1/3 is higher than usual to start with.

Yeah, 1/3 is high, it was part of the reason for you WC being as it was. Town was a bit OP with the mason pairs and a lie detector imo, so I buffed the scum a bit. Long story short, I think the next game will need more unique roles, but a bit less op ones. It's going to take some thought to get it all right.

by **chapcrap** on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:22 pm

That's right, we no lynched you to death!!

I thought it was fairly even... If there wasn't a no lynch last day, I think / or I (probably me) would have been lynched and town likely would have won. The mafia busdriver really helped mafia though I think, because it assured them they could kill whoever they wanted to.

by **pancakemix** on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:37 pm

N3
/ ~ Bus Chap/vode
Chap ~ kill vode

Wait, what?

by **edocsil** on Sun Aug 05, 2012 6:45 pm

pancakemix wrote:N3
/ ~ Bus Chap/vode
Chap ~ kill vode

Wait, what?

/ ~ Bus Chap/vodean
Chap ~ kill chap

That is what that should have read, woops. Regardless, the correct action happened that night, / always sent it on one PM (thank god) so intent was always clear.

by **Mr. Squirrel** on Sun Aug 05, 2012 8:08 pm

Darn it, I told you lynching me was a bad idea...

by **strike wolf** on Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:23 am

Yeah the 4 people alive and game still going I think threw people off. I knew what was going on and so desparately wanted to yell. "No! It's a trap!" There are two mafia left!"

And once again my side loses in the Pantheon. GG Scum.

by **Djfireside** on Mon Aug 06, 2012 8:43 am

I knew there was a trap somewhere in there and I knew that Chap was scum just couldnt seem to get any traction on it. I had a bad feeling and it was realized.

by **strike wolf** on Mon Aug 06, 2012 9:14 am

Yikes I just looked at it. I've now lost more games as town than I've won. I don''t think I've been in that position since my 6th game on this site.

by **edocsil** on Mon Aug 06, 2012 10:37 am

strike wolf wrote:Yikes I just looked at it. I've now lost more games as town than I've won. I don''t think I've been in that position since my 6th game on this site.

Huh, I thought you had won two of the games.

On a related note, I messed up the flavor, its 2 scum wins, two town wins. Made a mistake with the Greek when tallying for the scene.

by **vodean** on Mon Aug 06, 2012 3:06 pm

well done scum!

when i died it looked really good for town! i thought we had it. oh well.
good game!

by **everywhere116** on Mon Aug 06, 2012 4:36 pm

Damn. I did not consider that there was two scum left. I didn't want to no lynch, but with no way to communicate that other than voting for someone. (I really didn't have anyone in particular in mind as suspicious beyond squirrel, so I didn't want my intentions misinterpreted. Plus with only one scum left (so I believed) the final day would have been 1S-2T.)