Too many Items Mafia (4/14) Endgame: I Confess

by **Campin_Killer** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:41 pm

Yomiel wrote:STOP. Your sickening need to destroy every game I take part in is ridiculous.

I'm not trying to destroy every fucking game...

I'm not trying to do anything.

If you want to continue to spew your shit at me, then go right ahead.

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:44 pm

You really need to just stop. I want to play the game. If you can't stop from telling lies involving other games and personal matters, then just replace out.

Everyone else, we should keep things moving before this gets more out of hand. My vote is staying on Iron. I'm certain that either she or Spiesr or maybe even both are Mafia. Why else lie to the extent that they have? If it is just pettiness, then it's still better to get rid of them.

by **Campin_Killer** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 1:58 pm

Yomiel wrote:You really need to just stop. I want to play the game. If you can't stop from telling lies involving other games and personal matters, then just replace out.

Everyone else, we should keep things moving before this gets more out of hand. My vote is staying on Iron. I'm certain that either she or Spiesr or maybe even both are Mafia. Why else lie to the extent that they have? If it is just pettiness, then it's still better to get rid of them.

What are you taking about? I'm not lying, and I don't even kow you personally, so how can I bring in personal matters?

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:00 pm

You very much are lying. In that game, Dim was making lies about personal stuff and how I played, both of which were proven false and have no place in this game. Just stop.

by **Campin_Killer** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:09 pm

Yomiel wrote:You very much are lying. In that game, Dim was making lies about personal stuff and how I played, both of which were proven false and have no place in this game. Just stop.

...Right, I know what you are talking about completely.

Maybe people wouldn't be an ass to you if you didn't accuse everyone of being liars, and sick-minded.

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:12 pm

You just cannot stop. STOP. Do not even talk to me if you can't be civil and truthful.

by **Campin_Killer** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:36 pm

Yomiel wrote:You just cannot stop. STOP. Do not even talk to me if you can't be civil and truthful.

What, I'm not being civil, or telling the truth? I'm sorry, I didn't know that stating your opinion was uncivil.

Or telling the truth

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:38 pm

You need to stop instigating me so we can play the game.-.-

by **zimmah** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:48 pm

Yomiel, is don't believe he's insulting you, and even though you both are replying to each other (a discussion takes two persons after all) you aren't stopping either.

It's easy to point fingers, but please take a step back and look at yourself, and you'll see you're doing exactly what you don't want other people to do.

also, please don't take things too personal.

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:52 pm

As I've said before, I will always defend myself. He is insulting by claiming things about me that are not true and beyond that of a normal Mafia game. And I will take things personal when they are made personal. Now, for the last time, can we move on?

I'm not letting Iron and Spiesr get away.

by **Campin_Killer** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 2:57 pm

They were not made personal...

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:22 pm

Maybe you should reread some of the stuff Dim was saying, if you honestly believe that. Now drop it.-.-

Three seem to be two main targets today.

Iron/Spiesr

or

Epi

by **Campin_Killer** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:27 pm

Yomiel wrote:Maybe you should reread some of the stuff Dim was saying, if you honestly believe that. Now drop it.-.-

Three seem to be two main targets today.

Iron/Spiesr

or

Epi

Wasn't talking about DiM, js.

In other news, the walkie talkie thing has seriously confused me

by **pershy** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:39 pm

OK - here's my problem

Yomiel is mainly after hippo, spiesr or Epi. These 3 players are players I trust, Hippo because of his investigative posts, spiesr because of things he's told me via radio chat and Epi because I checked him out and he had no item.

This would normally make me suspicious of Yomiel - but he voted Vodean (penultimate vote I think) and he started with a walki talkie which I think is a sign of being town. There was a case on D1 against Yomiel and Vodean said that it wasn't much of a case so that's suspicious - but in my mind Yomiel is pretty much cleared and the players that Yom suspects are also pretty much cleared as town in my opinion. I could be wrong - e.g. maybe Epi had a weaon that was stolen or something like that. Did you start with an item Epi? Why would Epi not have an item? Hmm. Oh and Yomiel FOSES IB a lot but as I said I had radio chat with IB and he was all for lynching Vodean and was silenced so to me he's proven town too.

So I think there should be more focus on other players.

/ has cleared Zim. For now I am going to believe this as I said - so if we take this to be true then that leaves
Dazza (who has my vote and we know nothing of him as he's been inactive
Something7clever - then Shield now Campin K - this role has had 3 players so difficult to get a fix on it. Some things that Shield said have raised suspicion
and jonty 125 - has also been inactive

Yomiel - don't you think one of these guys deserves some attention? I admire that you've been going after the others, but I think you are mistaken in your suspicions for reasons mentioned although I can't be 100% sure. You came to my attention because of your FOSES but I think you are townie as Spiesr has said. My vote would be to lynch Daz or Jonty personally.....if jonty is being replaced though we can wait.

I repeat that I think Spiesr, IB, Hipster and Epi are all v likely to be town. IB was probably silenced by a mafia silencer (unless he made that up which would be very clever....I don't think so though).

fastposted

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 3:50 pm

You were so.@_@

Perhsy, I was never after Epi. I am largely suspicious of Iron, Spiesr, and Hippo. However, you must never be fooled solely by how a player acts. It is possible to seem investigative or like an ally. That is the point of the Mafia. If they were obvious, the game would be easy. And having an item says nothing.

Wasn't an axe stolen Night 1?

Pershy, you rather conveniently leave out the reasons I am suspicious of Iron and Spiesr. I know they are lying about the walkie-talkie, just as I know you are. I don't know why, only that you are. The host claims not to have changed anything, and I have read and reread my PMs. You and Spiesr would have been modkilled if you still had the item, and you two and Iron have no grasp of how it works.

I will not deter my focus, because that is more than enough reason to be suspicious.

by **pershy** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:35 pm

Yomiel wrote:You were so.@_@

Perhsy, I was never after Epi. I am largely suspicious of Iron, Spiesr, and Hippo. However, you must never be fooled solely by how a player acts. It is possible to seem investigative or like an ally. That is the point of the Mafia. If they were obvious, the game would be easy. And having an item says nothing.

Wasn't an axe stolen Night 1?

Pershy, you rather conveniently leave out the reasons I am suspicious of Iron and Spiesr. I know they are lying about the walkie-talkie, just as I know you are. I don't know why, only that you are. The host claims not to have changed anything, and I have read and reread my PMs. You and Spiesr would have been modkilled if you still had the item, and you two and Iron have no grasp of how it works.

I will not deter my focus, because that is more than enough reason to be suspicious.

Hmm - well I don't know what you think I'm lying about. All I know is Neb had one and was VT and you had one but don't anymore and I got Neb's and Spiesr got IB's. Why IB had one I don't know but I assume town had them which is one reason I think you are town. I'm sure there are things about it that I don't know. I also think there may be other more suspicious items out there. Anyway the reason I trust IB is not because he had a WT - but because he was chatting to me about Vodean's guilt. Could be a clever rouse but obviously it made me think he was town unless it was all a cleverly organised mafia trick. Do you think he got yours?

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:42 pm

Mine was likely taken from me via some role, so if you didn't do anything, odds are Iron did.

You claim to have the item, and yet, the evidence shows otherwise. You guys have no concept of how it works or the restrictions. And you broke one of the biggest ones, as did Spiesr, yet neither of you have been modkilled.

by **zimmah** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:43 pm

Yomiel wrote:Maybe you should reread some of the stuff Dim was saying, if you honestly believe that. Now drop it.-.-

Three seem to be two main targets today.

Iron/Spiesr

or

Epi

you left out the biggest one. yourself.

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 4:51 pm

If I left out anyone, it was you, because it's weird that you keep trying to push me for a lynch.

by **zimmah** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:17 pm

Yomiel wrote:If I left out anyone, it was you, because it's weird that you keep trying to push me for a lynch.

however i voted you way back, and i still think you're better off dead, regardless of alignment, i'm in no way pushing for a lynch. i'm just pointing out the flaws in your logic and your extreme arrogance.

it's good that you are active, but at this rate, you're pushing much of the other posts to the background. one-sided conversations aren't helpful too much either, and we all know your opinions by now, no need to repeat them a 100 times.

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 5:33 pm

Except you have done no such thing.

by **Epitaph1** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:40 pm

@pershy: I didn't start the game with an item. I've been hoping that one comes around with all the talk of the WTs, but my hopes fade each night.

Also, do we know when the deadline is? Is it safe to assume it's Thursday at 5:52pm EST?

by **spiesr** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 7:57 pm

Yomiel wrote:You're really making yourself look suspicious. I'm already pretty much proven Town, and the plan you mention is stupid. They are obviously lying, but you are grasping at any and all straws to avoid voting for them and get me killed.

Zimmah is like 90% cleared due to the investigation / accidentally got. Saying he is suspicious just causes you saying people are suspicious to become a meaningless statement. (You say it too much to be right any amount of the time greater that pure chance.)

Yomiel wrote:If the rules were not changed, then Iron can't have chosen to give the walkie-talkie to Spiesr.

As Iron pointed out before, you never gave your item to the next player, so I think you may not have all the information about how exactly it is passed. Neither do I at the moment, but I'll take Iron Butterfly's word for it.

by **Yomiel** on Tue Jul 24, 2012 8:03 pm

Even if / did in fact get an investigation result, we have no way of being certain she is telling the truth about who the result was on or what the result actually was. Even if she is, we can't be certain that result was accurate.

As I have said several times, even before you made your claim, the host told me that we could only choose which of the two holders would give up their item, NOT who would receive it. And since the host has confirmed nothing was changed, that means Iron is lying about giving the item to you. And again, that is not the only issue. Both you and her have gotten a lot of things wrong, and if you and Pershy really had the walkie-talkies, you would not still be talking to us, since you broke one of the big rules of the item.

by / on Wed Jul 25, 2012 4:02 am

@ epi, oh, no hard feelings, I just like to keep the pressure on whomever I can make a case on.
One more reason I want to pressure you is because you have no item, I find that odd, considering that so far we can deduce most roles are vanilla townies with items, to not have an item insinuates your role is different from the norm, perhaps even scum.