GLG verdict

[codeblue1018]

Isn't it possible to debate that without the flaming?

I dunno, probably not.

Saying in my native language:

The one that loses has a right to be angry

Are you feeling angry?

Tell you what - take a deep breath and count to ten. Then stick your thumb up your arse and quack like a duck. It probably won't help, but it never hurts to try, right?

I don't see any reason why I should be angry I see you are angry, and that arse thing didn't work for you(although u probably knew that it won't work)

Back on topic... Bottom line is that GLG is convicted and he will not be able to repeat his regular cheating when he will return.

Sure he can Goran; just as he did after the first warning. Next punishment, perma ban. Let's see what he finds as a loophole next eh?

[IR1SH ACE]

Sure he can Goran; just as he did after the first warning. Next punishment, perma ban. Let's see what he finds as a loophole next eh?

easy, he will most likely just foe everyone in the top 500 range of the scoreboard and also anybody that could give him a proper game on City Mogul....U know he has no problem map ranking the whole scoreboard.

then just setup the same games in public and away he goes..

[Woodruff]

Sure he can Goran; just as he did after the first warning. Next punishment, perma ban. Let's see what he finds as a loophole next eh?

easy, he will most likely just foe everyone in the top 500 range of the scoreboard and also anybody that could give him a proper game on City Mogul....U know he has no problem map ranking the whole scoreboard.

then just setup the same games in public and away he goes..

I suspect that's precisely what will happen, yes.

[freakns]

first of all, glg is sorry excuse of human being... however, he didnt break any rule here, he found fucking loophole, again. but its not his fault, so decision is wrong on many lvls... then again, its easier to ban someone then to think about effective scoring system, eh

[natty dread]

first of all, glg is sorry excuse of human being... however, he didnt break any rule here, he found fucking loophole, again. but its not his fault, so decision is wrong on many lvls... then again, its easier to ban someone then to think about effective scoring system, eh

yes

[jgordon1111]

Gross Abuse of the game.

Exploiting a (loophole) is gross abuse of the game.

End of story, no matter who wants to argue and what logic you try to use.

First go around glg got a warning,this time a ban,next loophole will get him a perma ban.

And it will fall under Gross Abuse of the game.

This catchall rule exsists to ensure some stability on CC.

If you want or expect to have a perfect site,and everything go exactly how you want it to, I suggest you create your own,good luck with that.

[natty dread]

End of story, no matter who wants to argue and what logic you try to use.

Nice argument

[codeblue1018]

End of story, no matter who wants to argue and what logic you try to use.

Nice argument

Feel free to quote the whole comment Natty and you just might find a "nice argument".

[BigBallinStalin]

How was GLG discovered?

I'm thinking that his punishment was not so much about the enforcement of the "gross abuse of the game" rule, but mostly caused by a critical mass of complainers--the loud, vocal minority, which got on the forums and caused a big ruckus.

If this is true, then there's probably many other GLGs out there, who the loud minority has yet to detect. So, if the loud minority is unaware of GLG-esque players, then does it really matter?

[chang50]

I would say this witch hunt against glg is gross abuse of cc.this is a slippery slope to go down.mob rule is ugly.

[GoranZ]

How was GLG discovered?

I'm thinking that his punishment was not so much about the enforcement of the "gross abuse of the game" rule, but mostly caused by a critical mass of complainers--the loud, vocal minority, which got on the forums and caused a big ruckus.

If this is true, then there's probably many other GLGs out there, who the loud minority has yet to detect. So, if the loud minority is unaware of GLG-esque players, then does it really matter?

You are mistaking a lot... Scoring system has one great feature, ability to polish cheating. So if someone cheat in few games he will get nothing over time(he will lose more points in lost games if he is not good or if he doesn't continue to cheat his points will drop).
I will take one game game for example(3 years old) from the time when I was relatively noob in this site. Game 5770714, 2 teams that ended up in the same clan make alliance, eventually one of those teams claim victory but both teams achieve nothing, after 3 years all 4 players have the same points as then(more or less). Back then I didn't send a report, I didn't have to and after 3 years I have 2.5K more points and those that cheated have nothing. I forgot to mention that BigBallinStalin was one of those players that played unfair(simple search can reveal it https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... llinStalin)

I guess all cheaters support other cheaters... the only difference is that GLG is cheating in 99% of his recent games lol, that's why he is still on top, but that time will go away eventually.

Isn't it possible to debate that without the flaming?

But it's not as fun to read, and natty's accusations of GoranZ being a moron apparently are true ITT, so that wouldn't constitute flaming.

Who is the moron now?

[Johnny Rockets]

Christ Natty.

GlG exploits every situation he finds. Stating he didn't break any rules by ignoring the rule he broke does not translate into "finding a loophole".

Considering you play so few games anyway, and don't support the site in anyway except for trolling the shit out of the forums, don't you think your personal opinion on "where this site is going " lacks a shit-ton of credibility?


Don't worry about C.C. Natty. We'll be just fine,

Johnny Rockets

[natty dread]

Christ Natty.

Sorry, there's only one Jesus on CC, and I'm not black enough to be Him.

Stating he didn't break any rules by ignoring the rule he broke does not translate into "finding a loophole".

Which rule is that? What did he exactly do that was against the rules? And don't say gross abouse or I'll gross abuse your mom.

Considering you play so few games anyway,

Yeah, but I've got a way bigger dick than you.

and don't support the site in anyway

Well, unless you count the 12 maps I made for this site as support, you're probably right. What have you done other than being a useless whiner on the forums?

except for trolling the shit out of the forums,

Well, it hasn't been entirely effective - after all, you're still here.

don't you think your personal opinion on "where this site is going " lacks a shit-ton of credibility?

Nope. I'm awesome.

[Woodruff]

Stating he didn't break any rules by ignoring the rule he broke does not translate into "finding a loophole".

Which rule is that? What did he exactly do that was against the rules? And don't say gross abouse or I'll gross abuse your mom.

But that's exactly the answer. As I explained much earlier in this thread.

[natty dread]

Stating he didn't break any rules by ignoring the rule he broke does not translate into "finding a loophole".

Which rule is that? What did he exactly do that was against the rules? And don't say gross abouse or I'll gross abuse your mom.

But that's exactly the answer. As I explained much earlier in this thread.

Ok but that's just kind of circular. Anyone can be convicted and then just said "it was gross abuse". There needs to be an explanation why it was "gross abuse", what exactly did they do that constitutes as "gross abuse". The concept of "gross abuse" has no meaning on its own.

[rhp 1]

Stating he didn't break any rules by ignoring the rule he broke does not translate into "finding a loophole".

Which rule is that? What did he exactly do that was against the rules? And don't say gross abouse or I'll gross abuse your mom.

But that's exactly the answer. As I explained much earlier in this thread.

Ok but that's just kind of circular. Anyone can be convicted and then just said "it was gross abuse". There needs to be an explanation why it was "gross abuse", what exactly did they do that constitutes as "gross abuse". The concept of "gross abuse" has no meaning on its own.

+1

[jgordon1111]

Gross Abuse of the game.

Exploiting a (loophole) is gross abuse of the game.

End of story, no matter who wants to argue and what logic you try to use.

First go around glg got a warning,this time a ban,next loophole will get him a perma ban.

And it will fall under Gross Abuse of the game.

This catchall rule exsists to ensure some stability on CC.

If you want or expect to have a perfect site,and everything go exactly how you want it to, I suggest you create your own,good luck with that.

OK it didnt sink in for some,Farming on this site is against the rules, whether it be ? or any other rank.

GLG got in trouble for this and was warned,because he used to look for low ranked players to invite to a map and settings they didnt understand, and then take their points. He was told he could no longer do this.

So GLG decides to no longer play ? and privates,this is it read slow for those that are not getting this.

To get around the previous warning GLG hunted down players from cpl to cpt. and had them invite him to a game on a map with settings they didnt understand or have a chance to win.

I have played the map with the settings GLG uses. And I call you a liar if you say you learned alot from playing one game with him on that map FS foggy.

First you didnt see a damn thing that was going on until it was over in 5 or less rounds probably.

So learning to lose points glg style is the only thing anyone could get out of this.

I was on glg side when this first surfaced,seeing the ranks involved, I stopped being on his side when 2 of those involved who had never posted in the forums before came to glg's defense,saying how much they learned from the game.

Are you shitting me its fog and didnt last more than five rounds you never saw him until it was over.didnt even comprehend what had happened until then,if even then.

When those 2 posted,thats when it hit me,he did it again and actually got these 2 to come and try and defend him,with I learned alot from that one game.

I looked closer then and saw what was being posted in the game chats,when you put info like rank and game stats for your opponents in the game chat,you know you are wrong and trying to hide it.

Did that make it easier to understand? How even a captain can get ranched?

[natty dread]

OK it didnt sink in for some,Farming on this site is against the rules, whether it be ? or any other rank.

Bullshit. Farming rules only apply to NR:s.

[Johnny Rockets]

f*ck your obtuse.

Gross abuse is a blanket law invoked when someone's bullshit gets too thick.

As it was explained to you in an earlier post, you cannot have each and every conceivable offence and possible interpretation mapped out for your thick-headed convenience.

Ass-Hats, like GLG continue to troll around and imaginatively discover ways to break rules that are instilled to protect other members enjoyment of the site.

Blanket laws are then used to crucify douchebags who constantly f*ck around and then sit back with a smug look saying: "Who, Me??"

So they can say: "Well f*ck you, you loop hole exploiting douche-bag, because this is a private site not a criminal court and we don't need to answer to hair splitting forum trolls when we vacation your sorry ass for ruining the site."

And thank God for That.

Oh, thanks for the 10 maps Natty. I forgot about those, as your trolling seems to overshadow your accomplishments.

JRock

[chang50]

f*ck your obtuse.

Gross abuse is a blanket law invoked when someone's bullshit gets too thick.

As it was explained to you in an earlier post, you cannot have each and every conceivable offence and possible interpretation mapped out for your thick-headed convenience.

Ass-Hats, like GLG continue to troll around and imaginatively discover ways to break rules that are instilled to protect other members enjoyment of the site.

Blanket laws are then used to crucify douchebags who constantly f*ck around and then sit back with a smug look saying: "Who, Me??"

So they can say: "Well f*ck you, you loop hole exploiting douche-bag, because this is a private site not a criminal court and we don't need to answer to hair splitting forum trolls when we vacation your sorry ass for ruining the site."

And thank God for That.

Oh, thanks for the 10 maps Natty. I forgot about those, as your trolling seems to overshadow your accomplishments.

JRock

Blanket laws are ok till they come for you,personally I am disgusted by this ruling not 'cos I care about GLG,but 'cos I care about the rule of law,what you call hairsplitting is important to others here believe it or not.

[natty dread]

f*ck your obtuse.

I don't need to f*ck my obtuse, I get all the satisfaction I need from your mom.

[jgordon1111]

OK it didnt sink in for some,Farming on this site is against the rules, whether it be ? or any other rank.

Bullshit. Farming rules only apply to NR:s.

LOL reread the changes natty,you seem to be to busy in the forums to notice that some changes have occured that includes GLG and anyone from farming any player

But beings you havent bothered to notice that was how glg took his first hit, I can understand why you have been arguing from a dead standpoint for so many pages.

Damn get current before you make an argument,I tried on 2 occasions to explain this to you.

[Johnny Rockets]

f*ck your obtuse.

Gross abuse is a blanket law invoked when someone's bullshit gets too thick.

As it was explained to you in an earlier post, you cannot have each and every conceivable offence and possible interpretation mapped out for your thick-headed convenience.

Ass-Hats, like GLG continue to troll around and imaginatively discover ways to break rules that are instilled to protect other members enjoyment of the site.

Blanket laws are then used to crucify douchebags who constantly f*ck around and then sit back with a smug look saying: "Who, Me??"

So they can say: "Well f*ck you, you loop hole exploiting douche-bag, because this is a private site not a criminal court and we don't need to answer to hair splitting forum trolls when we vacation your sorry ass for ruining the site."

And thank God for That.

Oh, thanks for the 10 maps Natty. I forgot about those, as your trolling seems to overshadow your accomplishments.

JRock

Blanket laws are ok till they come for you,personally I am disgusted by this ruling not 'cos I care about GLG,but 'cos I care about the rule of law,what you call hairsplitting is important to others here believe it or not.

Until they come for you? Seriously? This was not an out of the blue event.
You really think GLG was surprised ? He gets off on being the rebel boundary pushing, thin ice skating, anti-hero. This is meat and drink to this guy.

The blanket law covers all reasonable douche-bagery, and is an effective tool at keeping those who hide behind the law so they can violate the spirit of it. Preying on others is weak-sauce. Suspending those who do is not.

f*ck your obtuse.

I don't need to f*ck my obtuse, I get all the satisfaction I need from your mom.

Well my mom has been dead for the last three years, so if you like riding a bag of bones, far be it for me to deny you the pleasure. Just fill in the grave and change the flowers, mmmmmkay?

JR

[GoranZ]

Yeah, but I've got a way bigger dick than you.

I don't need to f*ck my obtuse, I get all the satisfaction I need from your mom.

I'm sure there are hospitals in Finland... although you are strange one go there, there are doctors that can help you, no need to insult everyone that think differently then you.

[freakns]

I will take one game game for example(3 years old) from the time when I was relatively noob in this site. Game 5770714, 2 teams that ended up in the same clan make alliance, eventually one of those teams claim victory but both teams achieve nothing, after 3 years all 4 players have the same points as then(more or less). Back then I didn't send a report, I didn't have to and after 3 years I have 2.5K more points and those that cheated have nothing. I forgot to mention that BigBallinStalin was one of those players that played unfair(simple search can reveal it https://www.conquerclub.com/player.php? ... llinStalin)

I guess all cheaters support other cheaters... the only difference is that GLG is cheating in 99% of his recent games lol, that's why he is still on top, but that time will go away eventually..

so everybody who had same amount of points 3 yrs ago and support glg in this case is cheater? let me see...
3 years ago i had... errr... pretty much same amount of points as i have now. i do support glg in this case(for the first time, but nevertheless, i do support him now)... so i guess im cheater? or i just dont give a f*ck about points(yes, there are ppl on this site, many of them actually, who dont give a rats ass about point) and also im sane enough to look for ruling instead of accused one?

Stating he didn't break any rules by ignoring the rule he broke does not translate into "finding a loophole".

Which rule is that? What did he exactly do that was against the rules? And don't say gross abouse or I'll gross abuse your mom.

But that's exactly the answer. As I explained much earlier in this thread.

Ok but that's just kind of circular. Anyone can be convicted and then just said "it was gross abuse". There needs to be an explanation why it was "gross abuse", what exactly did they do that constitutes as "gross abuse". The concept of "gross abuse" has no meaning on its own.

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this reminds me, some 15yrs ago, here in Serbia, they implemented new law about media. that shit was something like "if someone feels offended by text in newspaper, he can sue the papers for... something that usually costs lots of zeroes". by itself, law wasnt all that scandalous, however, with Milosevic controlling all the judges, it was clear sign to everyone to shut a f*ck up, or be ready to pay shit load of money...
and its same with this. "gross abuse" means nothing.i would like goranz to be banned because he is grossly abusing the logic while arguing!