Rolegift Mafia 2 Endgame: Give 'til it Hurts

[jak111]

But if people don't claim for sending what to whom, maybe people can just claim what they got? It will tell the person who gifted that item to you to better understand themselves without them being outed! (Don't bother hiding it because it's useless to hide a role you may not have 2 nights in a row)

That was the the plan we had for today. I don't know why you couldn't seem to follow it.

Well with pmc's post I can't mention the other two gifts because one of them appears to be MINE... (Lol I stole the gift back I sent pmc, sorry pmc v.v) But it's randomized 1-3 gifts at random. So I guess I got whichever my gift was and another gift ~Le gasp~

I don't understand why would choose to tell us that one of the gifts that you got was your own. Before you said this nobody except for you knew you sent a gift to pmchugh. You could have told us what gifts you received from the steal (and what you did with them) without exposing yourself. But then you went and did this for reasons I don't understand.

Well, perhaps I can give out this piece of information since I can't really use the power tomorrow... On second thought no. That would put a target on their head of being a confirmed townie. (Respect my decision here for once because I'd rather not have him die due to your greediness guys).

Can you explain what exactly you are trying to say here? It sounds to me like you have a result which clears one player and you are deciding not to share it. (Seemingly out of fear that said person will then be killed next.) If this is the case I think you need to reconsider. I think we will be better off having a confirmed townie (who may or may not become a target for scum for it) than we would if you keep this info to your self and then get killed and take it to your grave.

All in all, this post is so very out of whack Jak that I have to wonder if you are intentionally try to screw stuff up. So, FOS for that.

Well since YOU'RE the one to ask, you're cleared. You didn't go anywhere last night, and I don't know exactly what I'm thinking, I'm tired and not even my sentences go together in one string. However, you sir, are cleared for the day.

[spiesr]

Well since YOU'RE the one to ask, you're cleared. You didn't go anywhere last night, and I don't know exactly what I'm thinking, I'm tired and not even my sentences go together in one string. However, you sir, are cleared for the day.

So, I am assuming that you got some sort of tracker item? Please remember that someone not having gone anywhere last night is very far from clearing that person. It (almost) confirms that I didn't lie about not getting any gifts and that I didn't commit the scum kill (baring a ninja item or a busdrive) but it certainly doesn't prove alignment.

[safariguy5]

Bah, died Night 1. Oh well, scum probably learned from the last Rolegift game...

[Campin_Killer]

I got no gifts. I don't want to play any more

Same

[Rodion]

Spiesr - no gift
Pmchugh - no gift
CK - no gift
Rodion - hider gift (Djfireside) and doubler gift
Jak - giftmagnet gift, which gave him tracker gift (Spiesr did not go anywhere) and ??? gift

[soundman]

I got a rolecop gift. It let me see the gift that another person gives. Unfortunately the person I chose to investigate was Saf...

[everywhere116]

I only got a gift that gave me bulletproofness.

I just totally Notchcarved a new word.

[Yomiel]

I got a cop gift too! And my investigation turned up a member of the Mafia, but I can't be sure it's accurate...

[TA1LGUNN3R]

I received no gifts. I'll re-read to look for something.

-Tails

[Yomiel]

Well, I'll just go with what my investigation said and...

Vote: LSU

[Hensow]

I got a commute.

[aage]

Bah, died Night 1. Oh well, scum probably learned from the last Rolegift game...

I know right.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

Well, I'll just go with what my investigation said and...

Vote: LSU

Being that I know that the investigation is either insane, busdriven, or else you're mafia trying to lynch me, I'll do a blatent OMGUS at Yomiel with my main evidence being that you don't have anything else to compare the investigation to and fail to take into account that it may be insane or busdriven. The gift that I received is that I get a 2nd "secret" vote for today.

[Djfireside]

I also received no gifts. We can let the statements pile up but once the information hits the table I guess the next logical question would be who LSU gifted and what they got to see what we can figure from the cop investigation.

[pmchugh]

I also received no gifts. We can let the statements pile up but once the information hits the table I guess the next logical question would be who LSU gifted and what they got to see what we can figure from the cop investigation.

I agree with this, although it may not do all that good.

[Campin_Killer]

Well, I'll just go with what my investigation said and...

Vote: LSU

Being that I know that the investigation is either insane, busdriven, or else you're mafia trying to lynch me, I'll do a blatent OMGUS at Yomiel with my main evidence being that you don't have anything else to compare the investigation to and fail to take into account that it may be insane or busdriven. The gift that I received is that I get a 2nd "secret" vote for today.

Or Paranoid. Just sayin'

[jak111]

Aye, this seems to be a variable where it's time for LSU to claim who he sent his gift to and for the person to confirm they got a gift. IF he tries to hide behind a mafia buddy when we figure one out they'd both be dead.

[Yomiel]

Who he gave his gift too doesn't confirm anything. And I think his response only makes him look more suspicious, since despite what he said, I actually quite clearly stated the investigation might not be accurate.

[thechuck51]

Well, I'll just go with what my investigation said and...

Vote: LSU

I think we have to assume the cop is sane until we have evidence to the contrary. We could WIFOM sanities and busdrives all day and never reach a satisfactory conclusion.

Vote LSU

Also, I received a roleblock gift. I am guessing it was from aage.

[jonty125]

I got no gifts. I don't want to play any more

Same,

h my main evidence being that you don't have anything else to compare the investigation to and fail to take into account that it may be insane or busdriven.

vote LSU for a) guilty cop investigation b) OMGUS and c) using WIFOM to defend himself from a guilty investigation.

[LSU Tiger Josh]

As I said earlier the investigation is either insane, mafia trying to go after a townie, possible busdriven, and as someone else pointed out paranoid. In a game with no "real cop you don't only investigate one person especially when the gift was "given" and there is no telling what it does. To use it after the first night is just plain stupid because there is no way of knowing if Yomiel if that is her real name can even be trusted in this game and made just an honest stupid mistake or is honing in on trying to lynch a townie that actually did NOT vote on the now lynched townie yesterday because I wanted everyone to figure out who has what gift so we don't kill off a potential good townie gifter. From what has been said, I am still not 100% sure what my gift is and maintain this is just plain stupid to lynch without figuring out gifts. It is also possible one of the gifts was a cpr doctor to cause the second death.

You don't want to start playing the game of who gave what to whom on day 2. That should be saved until day 3 or 4 because even when you don't lynch the good gifter, they wind up getting boned because of sheeple that want to follow a bogus report that doesn't even have a 2nd person test against.

Finally even though I am saying OMGUS at Yomiel, I didn't actually vote her because I'm more inclined to believe that the gift is just insane or paranoid. I do think she is quite ignorant for just randomly going out there with that instead of at least waiting til there was a second person that received a cop gift and use it to help determine sanity instead of rushing off to use it like it will go away. The tracker gift seems a better one to use as scum hunting instead of hinging on a random cop investigation. Sure state what you found out during the day time, but until enough evidence gathers there shouldn't be votes on just that until we determine the sanity of a person. I do FOS Jonty and Chuck for trying to quickly form a bandwagon and failing to think for themselves and in fact will be Voting Chuck for trying to get an easy bandwagon lynch going while jonty has shown in past games just to be a numbskull that vote hops and fails to think for himself.

[jonty125]

most gifts expire if not used the night they are recieved.

this game and made just an honest stupid mistake or is honing in on trying to lynch a townie that actually did NOT vote on the now lynched townie yesterday because I wanted everyone to figure out who has what gift so we don't kill off a potential good townie gifter.

I believe we have found scum,

[Yomiel]

Looks like he is the ignorant one...>_>

Well, even if he doesn't turn out to be Mafia, whoever gave me the gift will know that the power they are giving out doesn't work right.

[Rodion]

Spiesr - no gift
Pmchugh - no gift
CK - no gift
Tail - no gift
Djfireside - no gift
Jonty - no gift
Rodion - hider gift (Djfireside) and doubler gift
Jak - giftmagnet gift, which gave him tracker gift (Spiesr did not go anywhere) and ??? gift
Soundman - rolecop gift (Safari is giftmagnet, I assume)
Everywhere - bulletproof gift
Yomiel - cop gift (LSU is mafia)
Hensow - commute gift
LSU - doublevoter gift
Chuck - roleblocker gift

16 alive, 14 declared their gifts. The 2 that did not are PCM and Shield.

We are looking at 18 gifts here, assuming Vodean never got to deliver his.
Rodion claimed 2, Jak 3, Soundman 1, Everywhere 1, Yomiel 1, hensow 1, LSU 1, Chuck 1 = 11

7 gifts missing between PCM, Shield and the deceased Aage/Safari.

[Rodion]

The first game did have an insane cop. However, I'd only question the sanity of a cop if there are multiple in the game. Let's see how many of the missing 7 gifts PCM and Shield can declare. There is also Jak's unclaimed gift.

If after PCM/Shield/Jak claim we still only have 1 cop role and 3 or less gifts unclaimed (Safari/Aage), I say we lynch LSU.