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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:23 am

Yomiel wrote:And my reply, since you're only telling part of the story:

You are snapping at me because you feel I violated your rules, you ban me from posting in the thread at all, and then you even start threatening me, and you can't understand why I keep responding?

And how can you remove me from the game? I put so much work into it, and I've done nothing wrong. And as if that isn't bad enough, you're actually trying to twist my actions? I killed Edo ONLY because I felt he was anti-Town. If / was telling the truth about what she had seen, he had to be a killing role. And I couldn't imagine the Town having two killing roles no matter how random the alignments are. And if his role was not what / claimed upon death, then we'd know to target her. He'd been inactive with his abuse, and I honestly hadn't even thought of it until he started up again AFTER his death.

If I never play Mafia here again, it will be because people like you and Edo have been privately orchestrating it. He already let that slip. And that is just shallow. Also, it's because people like the two of you twist everything I do. I played the game, nothing more. I did not do anything wrong, and things were perfectly normal. EVERYONE was suspecting Edo. But I kill him and suddenly it's because of something other than the game? How dare you imply something like that?


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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby Yomiel on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:24 am

I posted that ONLY because he posted what he did, which was a private message. And just for the record, the host actually CONFIRMED what I said about him and Edo. I'll PM you, as requested.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby safariguy5 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:26 am

Sigh...and that's exactly why I still say town vigs should not be killing night 1 unless they have a near 100% certainty someone is scum. Collateral damage galore plus what appears to be a couple of investigative (?) roles outed.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby pancakemix on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:27 am

I did. I am now making a concerted effort to make sure that Yomiel never plays Mafia here again. I feel I've been the most reasonable with her, but I got a long-winded (and ongoing!) argument in return.

I feel that three in-thread notices and 5-6 PMs on the matter should have been enough to put it to rest.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby jak111 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:30 am

pancakemix wrote:I did. I am now making a concerted effort to make sure that Yomiel never plays Mafia here again. I feel I've been the most reasonable with her, but I got a long-winded (and ongoing!) argument in return.

I feel that three in-thread notices and 5-6 PMs on the matter should have been enough to put it to rest.


That's why you gotta love my post break down of it XD Put some comic relief in there ;)

But still >.< Yomiel, seriously PM me if you don't know what you're doing wrong here.. because there's SOOO many things.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby Yomiel on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:33 am

I'm not really interested in another PM battle of someone seeing only how I'm doing wrong and everyone else is right. I did not kill Edo for personal reasons, and you were mass voicing your thoughts that he was guilty before it. And he actually admitted to killing me for personal reasons, but apparently that's fine. I will not be PMing anyone with a history of harassing me here.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby jak111 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 12:36 am

Yomiel wrote:I'm not really interested in another PM battle of someone seeing only how I'm doing wrong and everyone else is right. I did not kill Edo for personal reasons, and you were mass voicing your thoughts that he was guilty before it. And he actually admitted to killing me for personal reasons, but apparently that's fine. I will not be PMing anyone with a history of harassing me here.


Suit yourself. Now would you kindly.. STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD. You're dead. Dead people can't speak, so :-$
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby jonty125 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:48 am

jak111 wrote:Suit yourself. Now would you kindly.. STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD. You're dead. Dead people can't speak, so :-$


+1

Iron Butterfly wrote:I just realized Edoscil was most likely traccking last night. He was town so he would not kill Mr. Squirrel unless he knew for sure he was Mafia.


I can't see how you know edoc was tracking last night, I'm pretty sure an assassin role is one who could kill and bypasses all other night actions i.e. roleblocks, protects etc. And most vigs don't shoot N1, but edoc did say he would kill on N1 as a vig, today. Would you explain this post further?


Mr. Squirrel wrote: His character was too scummy and the circumstances were too incriminating.


Have you picked up that alignment is RANDOM!! I agree that the circumstances, weren't looking too good but it doesn't matter about your character, in regards to alginment. FOS Mr.S.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:52 am

If we assume mafia busdriver, we can vote saf. I see no reason to assume mafia busdriver.

We lost edoc now (which was a good role). Let's lynch someone. / you started the case on edoc. You went so far as to out yourself to prove a case with limited evidence. For lack of better argument, and in an attempt to rerail this thread: Vote /
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby jonty125 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 10:59 am

DoomYoshi wrote:If we assume mafia busdriver, we can vote saf. I see no reason to assume mafia busdriver.

We lost edoc now (which was a good role). Let's lynch someone. / you started the case on edoc. You went so far as to out yourself to prove a case with limited evidence. For lack of better argument, and in an attempt to rerail this thread: Vote /


Well, / is a flavour cop, and how much more information do you expect from a flavour cop? Also, with edoc's death it seems that he is getting the right results. I'll admit he was a bit trigger happy, but I suppose there could only be 1 town role with a knife and the odds were leaning towards anti-town. And why are you trying to rerail the thread, the term you use makes me feel like you're scum? Overall a slightly scummy post to me. FOS Doom.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby pancakemix on Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:11 am

Edoc will not be revived.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby ShaggyDan on Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:44 am

Re-reading and quoting on a smart phone is a pain :(. I'll have a longer post tomorrow arvo when I'm on a PC. Having to read across 15 different pages with so much waffle amongst it is driving me bonkers... Especially without tabs :p.

I think / had enough to pursue edoc. He got the flavour of a character that was mentioned in the scene about a failed kill. Though after re-reading the first page it does say that roles are selected before allignment. I'm leaning towards him being town atm but I do think we should only follow his results cautiously.

You mention saf being a suspect if we assume mafia busdriver, and then say there's no reason to assume that. I can't think of a reason to rule it out. But I would like you to elaborate on this point.

And jonty, if anything I would see re-railing the thread as a townish action. Scum would want the chaos around the day kills to last as long as possible.

Small fos on jonty for a weak fos reason.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby jonty125 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 11:49 am

ShaggyDan wrote:And jonty, if anything I would see re-railing the thread as a townish action. Scum would want the chaos around the day kills to last as long as possible.

Small fos on jonty for a weak fos reason.


The FOS wasn't just for that; but I felt the thread was going quite well, maybe chaos would have ruled if given another 24 hours, after all edoc and Yomiel - the two main leads were dead; but I felt Doom was a bit quick to be re-railing.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby DoomYoshi on Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:08 pm

The main issue is that roles are determined before alignment. A mafia flavor cop is perfectly likely. / ousting himself so quickly, in retrospect, seems like a plan to get into town's good books.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:34 pm

jonty125 wrote:
jak111 wrote:Suit yourself. Now would you kindly.. STOP POSTING IN THIS THREAD. You're dead. Dead people can't speak, so :-$


+1

Iron Butterfly wrote:I just realized Edoscil was most likely traccking last night. He was town so he would not kill Mr. Squirrel unless he knew for sure he was Mafia.


I can't see how you know edoc was tracking last night, I'm pretty sure an assassin role is one who could kill and bypasses all other night actions i.e. roleblocks, protects etc. And most vigs don't shoot N1, but edoc did say he would kill on N1 as a vig, today. Would you explain this post further?


Mr. Squirrel wrote: His character was too scummy and the circumstances were too incriminating.


Have you picked up that alignment is RANDOM!! I agree that the circumstances, weren't looking too good but it doesn't matter about your character, in regards to alginment. FOS Mr.S.


It goes the other way as well. You can not say "I cant see how you know..." and then say in the same sentence "Im pretty sure an assasin role is...". You are speculating just as muich as I am. Why would I need to explain anything when you seem to have it all figured out already or is there somthing you do not understand that I need to explain for you?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby Iron Butterfly on Tue Jul 03, 2012 1:37 pm

I forgot to say the obvious as well...he was a tracker assassin NOT and Assasin Tracker, first and formost a tracker would help town MORE night one then wildly guessing who to kill.

If I had to guess who to track or kill last night that award would go to Yumiel. He was TOWN. He would not blindly kill someone unless he knew they were Town.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby jonty125 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 2:28 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:The main issue is that roles are determined before alignment. A mafia flavor cop is perfectly likely. / ousting himself so quickly, in retrospect, seems like a plan to get into town's good books.


Agreed he could be trying to look like town, now I can see your logic against /; but if town flavour cop struck killer, surely you would tell town. BCS - SK/Mafia is lynched.WCS - Vig has to claim but can be protected. I suppose Yomiel threw a spanner in the works with that plan but I don't see how / was to suppose to know that.

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Iron Butterfly wrote:I just realized Edoscil was most likely traccking last night. He was town so he would not kill Mr. Squirrel unless he knew for sure he was Mafia.


I can't see how you know edoc was tracking last night, I'm pretty sure an assassin role is one who could kill and bypasses all other night actions i.e. roleblocks, protects etc. And most vigs don't shoot N1, but edoc did say he would kill on N1 as a vig, today. Would you explain this post further?


It goes the other way as well. You can not say "I cant see how you know..." and then say in the same sentence "Im pretty sure an assasin role is...". You are speculating just as muich as I am. Why would I need to explain anything when you seem to have it all figured out already or is there somthing you do not understand that I need to explain for you?


I do not understand, how you think edoc is tracking when the scene quite clearly states that the dark silhouette's original intention was to kill NOT TRACK. Unless that isn't edoc referred to in the scene but I think it is as assassins creep in the shadows which can be called a silhouette.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby / on Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:53 pm

DoomYoshi wrote:The main issue is that roles are determined before alignment. A mafia flavor cop is perfectly likely. / ousting himself so quickly, in retrospect, seems like a plan to get into town's good books.

Getting into town's good graces by outing someone I theoretically knew was town?
I knew what I knew, and going by the scene's flavor, and the fact I knew saf and edoc were messed around with, furthering plausibility tying edoc to the scene, I went with the best case I had.

But in between the lines there's a lot of obscurity, I'm not inclined to resign to maturity.

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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:55 pm

jonty wrote:I do not understand, how you think edoc is tracking when the scene quite clearly states that the dark silhouette's original intention was to kill NOT TRACK. Unless that isn't edoc referred to in the scene but I think it is as assassins creep in the shadows which can be called a silhouette.


I'm fairly convinced that edoc was a tracker. The unsuccessful killer is almost certainly the mafia kill, but was stymied through some other action.

And why are we assuming that even if Saf is a busdriver, he would be scum? I, for one, don't think he is a busdriver, but I won't dismiss the possibility.

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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby TA1LGUNN3R on Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:56 pm

Also, for my money I'm guessing Neb was responsible for the kill on Yomiel.

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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby pancakemix on Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:05 pm

Suddenly, a voice bellowed from the blue:

Day 2, Post #1.

Umm...I'm a little late to the party. So, Yomiel was a vengeful ghost, who could either target whoever she wanted once killed, or automatically kill whoever killed her? It was clear Yomiel was day-killed by Edoc.

I'm still unclear as to what the heck happened at night. Did Edoc try to kill Mr. Squirrel? Would he have a daykill and a nightkill? I agree with many who say that there are far too many roles and special powers going on to fully understand the day one logistics of who is doing what. I think the Edoc case is a good example. However, with our two main suspects now cleared/dead...where do we go? I have no reads on anyone. (This post restriction is killing me, because I can't post my reactions immediately. And then when I get around to posting, I've forgotten half of what I wanted to write.)

It looks like safariguy and / were the ones quick to vote Edoc here. / was the one that got the vision, I guess, right? I'm not sure exactly what it is. Safariguy was then the only one to vote. Do we pressure one of them? Or is this a total WIFOM...

Meh...true to my form, I'll just vote for now. If I need to back off of it, I still have 6 more posts today. :)

VOTE /

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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby / on Tue Jul 03, 2012 4:41 pm

Somebody gave me a magic yam with a day cop investigation power, Thank You mystery yam person! I used it on my original target, Safariguy, the result, saf is third party.
Care to elaborate on your role saf?
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby spiesr on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:41 pm

/ wrote:Somebody gave me a magic yam with a day cop investigation power, Thank You mystery yam person! I used it on my original target, Safariguy, the result, saf is third party.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby safariguy5 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:51 pm

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/ wrote:Somebody gave me a magic yam with a day cop investigation power, Thank You mystery yam person! I used it on my original target, Safariguy, the result, saf is third party.
Care to elaborate on your role saf?
Third Party? Is this even possible?

Indeed I am third party. If you guys read back to my Day 1 posts, I did hint repeatedly that Third Party was a possibility in this game which Yomiel (and I think some others) dismissed.

I'm Hiei from the anime Yu Yu Hakusho. I'm a Third Party Lyncher/Survivor. I have to make sure another third party player dies. If he dies, I win. BUT, I have to survive until at least Day 5. If he dies before Day 5 and I'm still alive, I win. If I die and he is still alive by Day 5, then he wins. If we're both alive by Day 5, then both of us will die and neither of us will win.

So based on what I know, I know there is at least 1 other third party player on top of however many mafia there are. You guys (town) can count on my vote, especially if you guys help me find my target.
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Re: CYOC Mafia [12/15] D2: Hide In Plain Sight

Postby jak111 on Tue Jul 03, 2012 8:45 pm

safariguy5 wrote:
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/ wrote:Somebody gave me a magic yam with a day cop investigation power, Thank You mystery yam person! I used it on my original target, Safariguy, the result, saf is third party.
Care to elaborate on your role saf?
Third Party? Is this even possible?

Indeed I am third party. If you guys read back to my Day 1 posts, I did hint repeatedly that Third Party was a possibility in this game which Yomiel (and I think some others) dismissed.

I'm Hiei from the anime Yu Yu Hakusho. I'm a Third Party Lyncher/Survivor. I have to make sure another third party player dies. If he dies, I win. BUT, I have to survive until at least Day 5. If he dies before Day 5 and I'm still alive, I win. If I die and he is still alive by Day 5, then he wins. If we're both alive by Day 5, then both of us will die and neither of us will win.

So based on what I know, I know there is at least 1 other third party player on top of however many mafia there are. You guys (town) can count on my vote, especially if you guys help me find my target.


By Day 5? By Day 5 we will be dead Saf. With 13 of us alive, 4 of us will be dead by Day 5 of night kills, another 2-3 due to lynches and unless we hit mafia we'd be down to 6-7 players left, with mafia most likely outnumbering town!

I'm not sure whether to believe you or not Saf. We could go on a hunt for this other person and you could be mafia saying it isn't him with each lynch. Day 5 sounds like a decoy to me. Why wouldn't it be Day 4? That'd make more sense and we'd most likely still have people alive enough to do anything in control of vote wise.
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