CYOC Mafia [7/15] Game Over! [Archive]

[edocsil]

Fastposted. f*ck no, there is no case against me.

The case is that you tried to assassinate Mr. Squirrel. So, we kind of need to know why.

/ says edocscil was switched with Saf.

You say he tried to kill Mr. Squirrel. I assume you know first hand he targeted MS.

While I agree that Edocil has some explaining to do, accusation are bouncing worse then a check from the state of California.

If you guys have info, concrete information spit it out and back it up. If your guessing say so. If you know somthing for a fact say so. So far it seems speculation is being mixed up with soft claims and its as confusing as shit.

This whole "Im Town and Im a hero" stuff doesnt cut it with me either. I just want to know what the roles involved did. Screw the flavor..."Gee my characters shoes wouldnt match that belt and I certianly wouldnt be causght dead in that cape." is horse manure.

They are trying to pin circumstantial flavor spec on me, how else should I respond? Flavor is going to be huge here. Why would you think otherwise?

[Yomiel]

I know the truth about Edo, but I need to die this Day. Lightning doesn't strike twice.

[edocsil]

I know the truth about Edo, but I need to die this Day. Lightning doesn't strike twice.

Now this has me quite curious. If you know the truth why should I help you? do you have any idea what my abilities are? Not looking for a description, just a yes or a no. At this point I am assuming you are a town bomb, and not the kind you are claiming to be. Still, the pieces don't fit for me. If I feel that you are being honest perhaps something could work out.

[Yomiel]

If I know the truth, why shouldn't you? No matter what kind of bomb you think I am, there is no reason not to kill me if you're Town. Not doing so kind of wasted Crazy's effort. And since I even offered to cast the last vote myself... And didn't you already claim your powers? I'm stuck on my 3DS while this stupid CHKDSK is running.

[edocsil]

If I know the truth, why shouldn't you? No matter what kind of bomb you think I am, there is no reason not to kill me if you're Town. Not doing so kind of wasted Crazy's effort. And since I even offered to cast the last vote myself... And didn't you already claim your powers? I'm stuck on my 3DS while this stupid CHKDSK is running.

Well there is this issue of someone being dead if you ARE a bomb. And no, I have claimed nothing.

[Yomiel]

You all were willing to risk someone dying to prove I was a bomb, so... I need to read some more of the thread. Wish this thing wasn't taking so long.

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I know the truth about Edo, but I need to die this Day. Lightning doesn't strike twice.

Tell us first then! The dead don't talk!
Unless of course you hire me, and my partner The Amazing Miss Chriswell John Cleo Edwards.

And to Iron Butterfly, fair enough, I will separate my usual banter from the actual info this time
blue is yummy yummy flavor, red is info

*Ahem*, so me and my partner were off in space so I could get a better reading into yesterday's escapade with the robots, suddenly Gus uses his Super Sniffer to lock onto the scent of oil coming out of a tavern, the same oil used by the robots, inside were the biggest meanest alien bounty hunters in the entire galaxy, demanding I die so they can take credit for taking out the legendary luke skywalker. Naturally, being against any form of deceit for profit, I sent them packing with the most spectacular kung fu ever. We found the oil puddle, and upon touching it I channeled my psychic powers to investigate safari guy, but the forces beyond had greater things in mind for me, instead I began seeing visions of white cloaks, acrobatics, desert sand, and concealed daggers, and the name attached to my vision, instead of safariguy, was edocsil.

And that's why you should hire me!

[Yomiel]

If you are being truthful, Edo is very unlikely to be Town. But I can't say how I know this. You need to kill me and not him, as promised. Do so, and the truth shall be revealed.

[Iron Butterfly]

I know the truth about Edo, but I need to die this Day. Lightning doesn't strike twice.

Tell us first then! The dead don't talk!
Unless of course you hire me, and my partner The Amazing Miss Chriswell John Cleo Edwards.

And to Iron Butterfly, fair enough, I will separate my usual banter from the actual info this time
blue is yummy yummy flavor, red is info

*Ahem*, so me and my partner were off in space so I could get a better reading into yesterday's escapade with the robots, suddenly Gus uses his Super Sniffer to lock onto the scent of oil coming out of a tavern, the same oil used by the robots, inside were the biggest meanest alien bounty hunters in the entire galaxy, demanding I die so they can take credit for taking out the legendary luke skywalker. Naturally, being against any form of deceit for profit, I sent them packing with the most spectacular kung fu ever. We found the oil puddle, and upon touching it I channeled my psychic powers to investigate safari guy, but the forces beyond had greater things in mind for me, instead I began seeing visions of white cloaks, acrobatics, desert sand, and concealed daggers, and the name attached to my vision, instead of safariguy, was edocsil.

And that's why you should hire me!

Gotcha. Your a flavor psychic detective from the food network. You went to investigate Safari and Got edocsil, who it appears was busdriven.

Spiesr claims that Edocsil was going to kill Mr. Squirrel. Instead of being killed the target was blocked.

[safariguy5]

Regardless of alignment, attempting a kill Night 1 is extremely noobish vig behavior even if you are town, and I expect edoc to know better. Altair is w/e, he could just as easily be mafia or SK as he could be town. With alignment independent of role, I don't think flavor can be used to argue towniness.

[safariguy5]

And I forgot. vote edocsil

[Yomiel]

You guys said you would kill me this turn. You also said I'd be killed last Night. Trust me, kill me, and Edo will no longer be a concern.

[Iron Butterfly]

Regardless of alignment, attempting a kill Night 1 is extremely noobish vig behavior even if you are town, and I expect edoc to know better. Altair is w/e, he could just as easily be mafia or SK as he could be town. With alignment independent of role, I don't think flavor can be used to argue towniness.

I am surprised he would even try and use the, Im Town argument because of flavor. Like you said with alighnment asighed randomly that statement holds no water so why even say it.

However there also appear to be a maze of night actions that complicate the picture. I with hold my vote until they are cleared up.

[Yomiel]

The Town is unlikely to lose with me dead on their side. If I were Mafia, I could have just had them do it.

[edocsil]

Regardless of alignment, attempting a kill Night 1 is extremely noobish vig behavior even if you are town, and I expect edoc to know better. Altair is w/e, he could just as easily be mafia or SK as he could be town. With alignment independent of role, I don't think flavor can be used to argue towniness.

A: I kill as a vig nearly every night, I can cite games where I have said this. In this game there are no in actives and D1 was unproductive, so perhaps theoretically I would have held my fire.

B: If I was tracked/watched and spiesr has seen that I visited Mr. S (which I didn't and can prove), are you accounting for the busdrive?

So all I am seeing still is that I was busdriven and therefor I am scum. There is nothing linking me to a kill or even a night action without spiesr going into a more detailed claim of his actions. Do I just not get something here? Or am I stupid? But that is all I am seeing and I can't fathom why good players are jumping on this asinine wagon.

[jak111]

Hmm, well. Spiesr, who did you target? Whoever you did it seems as though it'll be the opposite person.

[ShaggyDan]

So what I've managed to gather out of the beginning of the day is that edoc is the assassin out of assassin's creed and that he and safariguy were busdriven last night. This is all assuming thay / is to be trusted, which I think he can as edoc has soft confirmed his name at the top of the page a few.pages back.

Though looking at the scene I'm not quite sure what to make of it:

A dark silhouette crept its way towards a home, with intent to kill the inhabitant. A large man loomed nearby, but the interloper was willing to risk passing him. Suddenly, the dimensions twisted, and the intruder, sneaking past the armed guard, only tied up his victim instead.

The busdrive that occured looks like a killer attempted to target victim A, and a roleblocker target victim B. However the victims were swapped. Leaving victim A to be roleblocked and and victim B to be the target of a kill.

It does specifically mention the large armed guard, and I get the impression if instead of roleblocking a kill attempt was made it wouldn't have gone through.

If the killer was busdriven his kill still would have gone through to the target he wanted. Since we know edoc and saf were busdriven we can conclude that they were to be targeted by a kill / roleblock and were swapped... Meaning edoc wouldn't have had the kill.

... Unless I am mis interpreting things. I imagine the night actions are probably pretty crazy and convoluted. Hell we could have a busdriver that switches peoples targets instead of bodies.

[jonty125]

Brain cramps loud and suffering warm, I've been kicked around

I imagine the night actions are probably pretty crazy and convoluted. Hell we could have a busdriver that switches peoples targets instead of bodies.

We would still end up with a kill though? Switch a killer and a roleblocker, so that the killer performs a roleblock and the roleblocker performs a kill.

Vote: Yomiel

Why am I still alive? You got lucky Day 1, but according to the hos, it has all moved over to Day 2 instead. Farmer Crazy won't be able to interfere this time. Hurry up and kill me before it's too late.

Shall, we all accept that Yomiel is not getting to get lynched.

So let me get this straight,

Flavour: Kill failed, turned into a roleblock, due to the "twisting of dimensions"

D2 claims:
unknown busdriver switched edocsil and safariguy5
spieser claims that edocsil (might have been safari due to busdriver) tried to assassinate Mr.S
/ says that he got this flavour result about edocsil (original target safariguy5) "white cloaks, acrobatics, desert sand, and concealed daggers,"

I think we need spiser to clarify, and a full claim from edocsil.

[Yomiel]

Edo CAN'T be a Town killer. Is no one listening? You're making a mistake. First by not killing me, and now this. Edo is either Mafia or an independent role. But I need to be killed before it's too late.

[jonty125]

Edo CAN'T be a Town killer.

Care to elaborate?

[Iron Butterfly]

If Edocsil and Saf were busdriven. What would be the motivation? To protect? To set up?

/ investigated safari for a reason but ended up with Edocsil. That was probobly not forseen by the busdriver. I would be curious as to why /picked Safari to investigate.

edocsil has talked about a Vig in game in a round about way and his flavor suggests such.

A Mafia Busdriver would have a specific plan and pick their targets for a reason.

On night one a Town busdriver would have no information of substance to work with other then hunches and WIFOM.

[Yomiel]

It's too risky to sat more, after what happened to Crazy.

[edocsil]

It's too risky to sat more, after what happened to Crazy.

Lol, he was the town stump, that had nothing to do with you.

[Yomiel]

But someone did that to him.

[edocsil]

But someone did that to him.

Given what he said when he was stumped we can deduce that he did it to himself and that you skim heavily.