Battle of the Bulge - CLOSED

[Some7hingCLEVER]

woah now im confused...he isnt dead?

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[thechuck51]

Is PMC a "tree stump"?

[new guy1]

This means we have a vote stealer (thank you, sir captain obvious). We have 12 hours, so we can talk about who should hammer, dont rush it. Now, a list of volunteers that I remember are: Saf, The chuck, PMC, and jak. Think I got them all. If there is anyone else they should speak up, and if another player is willing to hammer but they have a vote on they may unvote and I will take their place on the list, as I am not going to volunteer. I have already said I believe chap to be town and so I believe his claim of bomb, and since I dont want to die I am not going to test it. Sorry if this is "scummy" to you all, but Im pretty sure I dont want to die.

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[pmchugh]

It appears somebody gone stole my vote.

Chaps reaction seems to be quite genuine, unvote my imaginery vote. Although of course he could have known my vote was stolen and then reacted with that speech so it is a bit WIFOMy same goes for chuck.

FASTPOSTED by chap - you do realise the same thing you said just applies to chuck applies to yourself as well?
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FASTPOSTED- I obviously cannot hammer now newguy

[new guy1]

Yeah I realized that as soon as I posted. I was just going through and finding a list of people that volunteered.

[chapcrap]

This means we have a vote stealer (thank you, sir captain obvious). We have 12 hours, so we can talk about who should hammer, dont rush it. Now, a list of volunteers that I remember are: Saf, The chuck, PMC, and jak. Think I got them all. If there is anyone else they should speak up, and if another player is willing to hammer but they have a vote on they may unvote and I will take their place on the list, as I am not going to volunteer. I have already said I believe chap to be town and so I believe his claim of bomb, and since I dont want to die I am not going to test it. Sorry if this is "scummy" to you all, but Im pretty sure I dont want to die.

People to not hammer: jak

People who should be discussed to hammer: Rodion, everywhere, newguy1

[safariguy5]

unvote

Still ready to hammer, someone slap a vote on and I'll get to it.

Don't worry chap, if you really are the town bomb, minimal damage will be done.

Also, if you're trying to pull a Rodion gambit, you're not really telling us anything. The same people who had to claim earlier on the game are basically the same people willing to hammer. I don't see any new information here.

[pmchugh]

I am not sure if we should lynch chap, I think it is a pretty big risk and I am starting to believe him- even if his "I am actually town" thing is a WIFOM defense the simplest answer is still that he was telling the truth. The deadline is very close, but 2 townies down would be a lot worse than a no lynch or switching to another target. (seems only ng would have the support atm).

[Rodion]

I am not sure if we should lynch chap, I think it is a pretty big risk and I am starting to believe him- even if his "I am actually town" thing is a WIFOM defense the simplest answer is still that he was telling the truth. The deadline is very close, but 2 townies down would be a lot worse than a no lynch or switching to another target. (seems only ng would have the support atm).

Does that mean you think this "vote stealer" is town?

And, most importantly, when did you realize you couldn't vote?

[gimli1990]

you know what i think i will hammer as i am not a power role and if i die good as i have been getting busy in life let me know guys you all still want to hammer.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

you know what i think i will hammer as i am not a power role and if i die good as i have been getting busy in life let me know guys you all still want to hammer.

ill vote chapcrap
whoever wants to hammer be my guest and good luck to you.
i do suggest gimli though since he wont be of much use and saf will

[chapcrap]

you know what i think i will hammer as i am not a power role and if i die good as i have been getting busy in life let me know guys you all still want to hammer.

ill vote chapcrap
whoever wants to hammer be my guest and good luck to you.
i do suggest gimli though since he wont be of much use and saf will

How do you suppose to deduce that gimli won't be of use?

Convenient that you decide to jump on the wagon so someone else can hammer, but you didn't do anything before...

[DoomYoshi]

That was the hammer clever. I think.

New guy, that is ridiculous. Nobody would ask those questions unless they knew there was a vote stealer.

Either you are the vote stealer or you are in the same mafia as one.

Well, since we're at a deadline and people chose to switch to me instead of away from me, I'll claim.

I'm Maj. F.H. Jackson, WWII pyrotechnician. Basically, I'm a town bomb. I soft claimed this a bunch.

I can't find anything on him beyond a wiki page and a mention in a list of soldiers, anyone got anything better?

I never seen you soft claim this at all (i looked back through all of day 2 and some of day 1), and bomb is a pretty safe mafia claim. Even with the risk of double kill I think this is a pretty decent gamble unvote vote chap

As for who hammers I would ask it not to be jak for obvious reasons. I am willing to do it. Other than myself saf would be a decent option, claimed VT and in my eyes suspicious.

PMC voted though... did you miss it or not? If you can confirm that. I am not familiar with if a mod is allowed to say that or not.

What I mean is that normally someone says "you missed pmc"; not the "if you can confirm that" part. So fess up: full role claim and night actions.

[jak111]

That was the hammer clever. I think.

New guy, that is ridiculous. Nobody would ask those questions unless they knew there was a vote stealer.

Either you are the vote stealer or you are in the same mafia as one.

Well, since we're at a deadline and people chose to switch to me instead of away from me, I'll claim.

I'm Maj. F.H. Jackson, WWII pyrotechnician. Basically, I'm a town bomb. I soft claimed this a bunch.

I can't find anything on him beyond a wiki page and a mention in a list of soldiers, anyone got anything better?

I never seen you soft claim this at all (i looked back through all of day 2 and some of day 1), and bomb is a pretty safe mafia claim. Even with the risk of double kill I think this is a pretty decent gamble unvote vote chap

As for who hammers I would ask it not to be jak for obvious reasons. I am willing to do it. Other than myself saf would be a decent option, claimed VT and in my eyes suspicious.

PMC voted though... did you miss it or not? If you can confirm that. I am not familiar with if a mod is allowed to say that or not.

What I mean is that normally someone says "you missed pmc"; not the "if you can confirm that" part. So fess up: full role claim and night actions.

Actually Saf unvoted, so Clever put it back to L-1.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

you know what i think i will hammer as i am not a power role and if i die good as i have been getting busy in life let me know guys you all still want to hammer.

ill vote chapcrap
whoever wants to hammer be my guest and good luck to you.
i do suggest gimli though since he wont be of much use and saf will

How do you suppose to deduce that gimli won't be of use?
Convenient that you decide to jump on the wagon so someone else can hammer, but you didn't do anything before...

unvote was i the hammer...goddamit. i hope i wasnt

[Some7hingCLEVER]

just checked and i wasnt lol thank god

[DoomYoshi]

Ok, so we still have time.

Unvote vote new guy

[safariguy5]

Ok, so we still have time.

Unvote vote new guy

Where do you come to this conclusion? I thought we only had a couple of days left.

[jak111]

Ok, so we still have time.

Unvote vote new guy

Where do you come to this conclusion? I thought we only had a couple of days left.

We have like today don't we? Doom, why are you trying to go in a COMPLETE different direction?

[pmchugh]

I am not sure if we should lynch chap, I think it is a pretty big risk and I am starting to believe him- even if his "I am actually town" thing is a WIFOM defense the simplest answer is still that he was telling the truth. The deadline is very close, but 2 townies down would be a lot worse than a no lynch or switching to another target. (seems only ng would have the support atm).

Does that mean you think this "vote stealer" is town?

And, most importantly, when did you realize you couldn't vote?

When chap didn't die, like everyone else. I have no idea how, or why all I know is that I could vote yesterday but not today. Personally I don't think they are town, its more commonly a mafia role and if it was town I don't see why I would be targeted. I only made 3 peoples scum list yesterday and only gimli hasn't claimed out of them and he was more suspicious of other players than me so I would say its fairly unlikely they are town.

The day is pretty much over at this point, I think there are three hours left.. lets hope tomorrow is more fruitful.

[DoomYoshi]

Ok, so we still have time.

Unvote vote new guy

Where do you come to this conclusion? I thought we only had a couple of days left.

I mean the hammer hasn't happened. We still at least have enough time to get new guy's story. Unless he stalls to converse with scumbuddies tonight. I will be on all night, will place a vote on chap again in 2 hours so as not to miss deadline.

[Rodion]

I am not sure if we should lynch chap, I think it is a pretty big risk and I am starting to believe him- even if his "I am actually town" thing is a WIFOM defense the simplest answer is still that he was telling the truth. The deadline is very close, but 2 townies down would be a lot worse than a no lynch or switching to another target. (seems only ng would have the support atm).

Does that mean you think this "vote stealer" is town?

And, most importantly, when did you realize you couldn't vote?

When chap didn't die, like everyone else. I have no idea how, or why all I know is that I could vote yesterday but not today. Personally I don't think they are town, its more commonly a mafia role and if it was town I don't see why I would be targeted. I only made 3 peoples scum list yesterday and only gimli hasn't claimed out of them and he was more suspicious of other players than me so I would say its fairly unlikely they are town.

The day is pretty much over at this point, I think there are three hours left.. lets hope tomorrow is more fruitful.

If you think the vote stealer is mafia, then you must conclude mafia KNEW Chuck's hammer was "fake". That means neither Chuck nor Chap can get any "town cred" for their actions.

I don't understand how you can give Chap town cred while suspecting that your vote was stolen by mafia. Care to explain before I FOS you?

[chapcrap]

Ok, so we still have time.

Unvote vote new guy

Where do you come to this conclusion? I thought we only had a couple of days left.

I mean the hammer hasn't happened. We still at least have enough time to get new guy's story. Unless he stalls to converse with scumbuddies tonight. I will be on all night, will place a vote on chap again in 2 hours so as not to miss deadline.

Good luck getting any info with that kind of pressure. You're just gonna pressure and tell him that you'll take the pressure off if he doesn''t answer? And like it would even matter at this point. You're the second vote on him after me.

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[chapcrap]

I am not sure if we should lynch chap, I think it is a pretty big risk and I am starting to believe him- even if his "I am actually town" thing is a WIFOM defense the simplest answer is still that he was telling the truth. The deadline is very close, but 2 townies down would be a lot worse than a no lynch or switching to another target. (seems only ng would have the support atm).

Does that mean you think this "vote stealer" is town?

And, most importantly, when did you realize you couldn't vote?

When chap didn't die, like everyone else. I have no idea how, or why all I know is that I could vote yesterday but not today. Personally I don't think they are town, its more commonly a mafia role and if it was town I don't see why I would be targeted. I only made 3 peoples scum list yesterday and only gimli hasn't claimed out of them and he was more suspicious of other players than me so I would say its fairly unlikely they are town.

The day is pretty much over at this point, I think there are three hours left.. lets hope tomorrow is more fruitful.

If you think the vote stealer is mafia, then you must conclude mafia KNEW Chuck's hammer was "fake". That means neither Chuck nor Chap can get any "town cred" for their actions.

I don't understand how you can give Chap town cred while suspecting that your vote was stolen by mafia. Care to explain before I FOS you?

Care to explain why you're so active all of a sudden? It's not Day 3 yet!! I've already FOS'ed you, so I won't make a silly threat about it.

[Rodion]

I saw something interesting. Keep the game less dumb and more interesting and you'll see more of me.