Battle of the Bulge - CLOSED

[jgordon1111]

Which leads me to this. MODERATOR is this really going to happen with the vote thing?

I hate to say it, but "Skim much jg?"

To answer your questions SG7 (Tagging your votes with Clevers) I must say no due to that no one knows each others alignments. I hint at nothing in that post. It is simply because if you werent the same alignment then it would make it completely idiotic . Still not hinting at anything there guys, just want to make my reasons clear.

I thought I had seen where ghost said no but I couldnt find the damn thing when I looked

[jgordon1111]

sorry chap about double post, didnt read chucks post prior to going ahead and posting mine.

I really do have to type faster and quit going over stuff while I am preparing to make a post.

Lets get this over with VOTE JGORDON1111

What are the steps to suicide here, One rampant fool is going to insist on my lynch will everyone please help him out.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

sorry chap about double post, didnt read chucks post prior to going ahead and posting mine.

I really do have to type faster and quit going over stuff while I am preparing to make a post.

Lets get this over with VOTE JGORDON1111

What are the steps to suicide here, One rampant fool is going to insist on my lynch will everyone please help him out.

lol this happens way to much for me to be comfortable with.

[jak111]

The odds of us outing and lynching any scum are small (approx. 1 in 4 I would guess). We can continue to go back and forth, casting suspicions here and there, creating fake cases to see who joins the bandwagon, and in my opinion continue to accomplish very little or we can lynch somebody we know is not town, JGordon. If we wait, our focus in the following days will be on finding/lynching scum, allowing JGordon to survive further into the game which would only make him more dangerous to the town. He says he wants the town to win but if we end up in a lynch or lose situation it would be to easy for him to vote with the mafia and meet his win condition.

I've started a pro/con list for lynching JGordon. please add to it if you like

Pros:
- we do not lose a town member to a lynch
- we do not mistakenly out another power role by continuing to pressure with more bandwagons
- we prevent the potential LyLo condition described above.
- we prevent the chance of our vig being busdriven while trying to NK him (if both roles are present in the game)
- we move the game to the next phase where we can use our power roles to build real cases

Cons:
- we do not lynch scum
- if JGordon is a jester, he wins (will the game end with his lynch? if not, then this may not be much of a con)

And commence my tearing apart of Chap's post here.

CONS:
We lose a person who's been contributing more than other players to the game on the town's side.
We lose any more info I can give for tomorrow if he's lynched quickly because he's not adolf, people will die tonight.

But hey, I'm only the town doc and posted a hell of a lot more useful things than Chuck, so what do I know, right? Jg has posted a lot more helpful things than you Chuck.

So here's a thought. Pro's and Con's for putting pressure on Chuck

Pro's
~ He may very well be scum, trying to push jg's lynch ONCE AGAIN with still a week left.
~ If he's Adolf we get to get through a night without anyone dying.
~ Chuck has generally been inactive in the current cases, so hasn't added much.

Con's
~ Nothing.

Sorry, I'm just getting tired of people pushing jg's lynch when he's been contributing more than many of the people in the game. I'd prefer a No Lynch over just lynching jg because he's "not town". He's a potential town player, if you really have something against that you're crazy. Sure kill him if it gets down to pressure, but for now he's useful and adds to the numbers.

If I hear one more bs case on jg between tonight and tomorrow in rl time, I'm going to flip and not use my power. (NOT JOKING) So be warned.

Fastposted by Clever

[jgordon1111]

sorry chap about double post, didnt read chucks post prior to going ahead and posting mine.

I really do have to type faster and quit going over stuff while I am preparing to make a post.

Lets get this over with VOTE JGORDON1111

What are the steps to suicide here, One rampant fool is going to insist on my lynch will everyone please help him out.

lol this happens way to much for me to be comfortable with.

Your right clever things are changing.help me out here make the vote.

alot of people are eager to get to the night. And my tolerance level has been depleted completely.

Fastposted by jak, asking for your vote here please get this insanity over.

Understand why doom and saf were pissed at me for trying to take this game out of the way it is normally played.

It has drug out way to long.

[jak111]

Nope, not going to do it, if we're going to be voting something to get into the night...

Vote NO LYNCH

Of course people want to get to the night, mafia always wants to get to where they can do so... Also I find it funny that Chuck brings this back up when I mention I'm going to throughly check the thread tomorrow. So someone keep a note of this somewhere if I die tonight (100% likely if we kill of jg).

[safariguy5]

As for Ragian's post above me unless I'm fastposted (Most likely since I've spent an hour on researching this, so if you skim this you're truly anti town if you don't wish to take a quick look at some facts when they're presented with research done). I had you on my mental list before because of your activity, you're on and posting but you're not that active, or at least haven't caught my attention comment wise (Take that as good or bad, you decide for yourself there).

I don't understand the first parenthesis. Why would I skim something if you were fastposted? Also, you said that you had a case against me, but now it's just a mental note? Seems odd to me. I think it's unfair to say that I'm inactive. Perhaps you think that I'm not contributing enough. Can't really argue against what you think though I think calling me anti-town is nonsensical given that I didn't read your "research" until just now). And I am reading your scum hunt (as well as seeing you "claim" doctor with no heat on you) Several people have been generous with their votes, I agree to that. You should, however, notice that I took a stand on the clever-case deciding not to vote as I thought the case was thin. I consider that contributing.

Also, dazza is a bloke.

I think you misinterpreted my post bud. The parenthesis was to the general populace in the game. As for inactivity I mentioned you just may have not caught my attention during the fights and arguments so mentally your name didn't click for me.

@ Leehar to be honest, I never read Saf's post until I made up the fake case. It's just lucky it was somewhat similar that others fell for it real quick .

@ PMC, I'm glad you responded, my list is not 100% telling everything that happened, it's based strictly off of votes. You're the only one who voted me who did not wish for it to turn into a full fledge band wagon. The next part about Chapcrap, I agree, the list I constructed is strictly around the votes people have cast, though I'm glad you're doing your research on a few other characters and in more detail PMC It adds for a broader view on the things happening in this game so far.

@ Rodion, as I was reading it over I seen the bandwagon again, but initially forgot about it. If you wish to find a simple way to get the voters on Doom's bw feel free to do so, but I went through page for page for the info I got. But I believe I mentioned earlier I'm doing a full read through of both mafia's I'm in this weekend. So what I posted was a bit quicker than what I'm working on tomorrow and Sunday.
Also I'll make sure to check up on Chap's posts. PMC and you seem to be really on him, so I'll see if I can't dig some old info back up on him

@ Clever, I am clearing no one, nor is anyone else, we are merely observing what is going on. The last case I made on you was a false one to see who quickly jumped on and off, but you're pushing your luck with misinterpreting things lately. I do wish you seen what I was doing before defending though I was hoping for 1 or two more people to check in on. But like I mentioned in one of my replies above, my analysis was not perfect, it was something put together of an hour of going over 3 bandwagon votes. A more detailed analysis will come either tomorrow or Sunday.

Wait a minute here, you're claiming that you used clever's badly worded post as a trap? As I recall, I was the person to make the case against clever (which came with 2 reasons, buddying with shield despite no clear connection, and also pushing for a kill on jgordon when we still have more than a week left before deadline. If you want to come in and take credit for a BW trap, you should be the one to lay the trap, not the one who makes comments on the BW that someone else started.

And for the record, your list is too simplistic. For instance, I don't believe that the person who starts the wagon can be considered a bandwagonner. If you generate the case, then you shouldn't be considered on that list.

I'm still suspicious of clever, but if he's going to back off this blind support of shield, I suppose I can unvote for now.

[jak111]

Reread it Saf, look at my message to Leehar, I must have you must have fastposted when I was reading the last page or something, but I didn't read your message until I already made mine and posted it.

As for the current events, what are your thoughts Saf?

[new guy1]

JG, I dont care how much you hate the game, Im not lynching a player who has been useful to town and has lots of potential to be even more useful in later days because you cant stand the insanity of it. It will be okay and Im sure that you will be a huge contribution to the town as long as you dont turn on us in the end, which lets face it we can see it coming from miles away when/if we havent gotten mafia and town is down to like 8 players or so. Then we will know you are going to turn for your WC and you can be lynched then.

fastposted x2

again

[safariguy5]

Reread it Saf, look at my message to Leehar, I must have you must have fastposted when I was reading the last page or something, but I didn't read your message until I already made mine and posted it.

As for the current events, what are your thoughts Saf?

Personally, I feel that prior bandwagons on jg are not a good place to find information because jg keeps swinging between wanting to stay alive and not caring. If you ask me, I feel that with a couple claims out there, I'm willing to either lynch jg or go to night with a no lynch, I feel we have enough information for Day 1.

[/]

If I hear one more bs case on jg between tonight and tomorrow in rl time, I'm going to flip and not use my power. (NOT JOKING) So be warned.

Fastposted by Clever

So, you believe it's possible scum is pressuring a third party, so you won't help town, that's great!

Anyways, I am getting some bad vibes from newguy's defense

You havent gotten much from saf and pmc? They are more active then me and would probably jump on the wagons they did quicker then me had they been online and not me.

Well, I understand your reasoning for voting me given a list of 4 players. I do not see why I am the scummiest but if you choose to pursue the case then maybe you can tell me more on that subject. As for the delay getting concentration etc etc, I did not try getting attention off people, I said I did not want to lynch someone when we had so much time and so we could concentrate elsewhere and come back to it later. I have added a couple things, but I will admit that I havent added a ton to the cases presented.

I saw the part where you said it was subjective, but I would hope it would take more then "it was mostly subjective" to get me to L2 or worse. I understand your vote is on me, I also see your blatant support of pmc and saf. This has been noted for when/if I am forced to claim. Thank you for explaining your subjective reasons to me more as I did not get what you meant completly when you first posted it. Also, you are dismissing PMC because he admits to supporting bandwagonning? So does that mean he is excused this whole game so long as he follows the pack? This is not making a case on PMC as I do not have the evidence to support one, I am just asking you personally why he is getting a free card. How about I just say I support bandwagons and get away with it the rest of the game?

He seems to essentially be saying, "I don't really have anything on PMC or Saf, except they probably would have hopped on the bandwagon, I will not present a case against them, but really you should be looking at them so you aren't looking at me." very avoidant diversive infliction going on here, FOS NG

Also, to me the vote/unvote that everywhere posted on clever was a bit more half baked than what newguy posted, he even admits himself it was for a slip that "wasn't there", and the unvote pretty much just said "oh, okay nevermind" FOS Everywhere

[jgordon1111]

Fine I will no longer post then. Make the GD vote.

/ you have sense enough to know I am now a threat make the vote.

[thechuck51]

The odds of us outing and lynching any scum are small (approx. 1 in 4 I would guess). We can continue to go back and forth, casting suspicions here and there, creating fake cases to see who joins the bandwagon, and in my opinion continue to accomplish very little or we can lynch somebody we know is not town, JGordon. If we wait, our focus in the following days will be on finding/lynching scum, allowing JGordon to survive further into the game which would only make him more dangerous to the town. He says he wants the town to win but if we end up in a lynch or lose situation it would be to easy for him to vote with the mafia and meet his win condition.

I've started a pro/con list for lynching JGordon. please add to it if you like

Pros:
- we do not lose a town member to a lynch
- we do not mistakenly out another power role by continuing to pressure with more bandwagons
- we prevent the potential LyLo condition described above.
- we prevent the chance of our vig being busdriven while trying to NK him (if both roles are present in the game)
- we move the game to the next phase where we can use our power roles to build real cases

Cons:
- we do not lynch scum
- if JGordon is a jester, he wins (will the game end with his lynch? if not, then this may not be much of a con)

And commence my tearing apart of Chap's post here.

CONS:
We lose a person who's been contributing more than other players to the game on the town's side.
We lose any more info I can give for tomorrow if he's lynched quickly because he's not adolf, people will die tonight.

But hey, I'm only the town doc and posted a hell of a lot more useful things than Chuck, so what do I know, right? Jg has posted a lot more helpful things than you Chuck.

So here's a thought. Pro's and Con's for putting pressure on Chuck

Pro's
~ He may very well be scum, trying to push jg's lynch ONCE AGAIN with still a week left.
~ If he's Adolf we get to get through a night without anyone dying.
~ Chuck has generally been inactive in the current cases, so hasn't added much.

Con's
~ Nothing.

Sorry, I'm just getting tired of people pushing jg's lynch when he's been contributing more than many of the people in the game. I'd prefer a No Lynch over just lynching jg because he's "not town". He's a potential town player, if you really have something against that you're crazy. Sure kill him if it gets down to pressure, but for now he's useful and adds to the numbers.

If I hear one more bs case on jg between tonight and tomorrow in rl time, I'm going to flip and not use my power. (NOT JOKING) So be warned.

Fastposted by Clever

I assume you meant me and not chap here

JGordons is responsible for about 1/7th of all the posts (by page) and has been suspicious of what seems like everybody but has been confident enough in what he sees to actually vote 3 times (not including joke votes). 1 of those votes was on SG7 and was unvoted hours later and another was/is ON HIMSELF. Other than in volume, how much has he really contributed? I suppose I could throw a bunch of shit against the wall and hope something sticks too, would I be contributing then?

What exactly about my case is BS? you don't like the timing, what else? Is anything I listed as a pro not accurate? Why would you ever consider not using your power to help the town? Is it because you fake-soft-claimed doc hoping to lure out a counter claim? Maybe JG's survivor claim is some clever gambit. Are you and JG scumbuddies?

FOS jak

In the future, perhaps we should all consult our doctor prior to making any cases.

fastposed a bunch of times (haven't read them yet though)

[jgordon1111]

Chuck chuck chuck you are truly an idiot but thank you for maintaining your vote and starting this BS again because of your undiminished stupidity.

You were the first person I fos'ed for a reason and was told it because your new,not scum.

who was it that backed him up on that lol

[new guy1]

/, The only response I have to that post is that I even said that I was not making a case on pmc, and I said that I didnt see why I was scummier then saf. Therefore, I was not trying to point everyone in another direction, I was stating my opinion.

fastposted- please dont talk about how stupid players are, its quite offensive. You could just call him a noob instead of insulting his inteligence.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

sorry chap about double post, didnt read chucks post prior to going ahead and posting mine.

I really do have to type faster and quit going over stuff while I am preparing to make a post.

Lets get this over with VOTE JGORDON1111

What are the steps to suicide here, One rampant fool is going to insist on my lynch will everyone please help him out.

lol this happens way to much for me to be comfortable with.

Your right clever things are changing.help me out here make the vote.

alot of people are eager to get to the night. And my tolerance level has been depleted completely.

Fastposted by jak, asking for your vote here please get this insanity over.

Understand why doom and saf were pissed at me for trying to take this game out of the way it is normally played.

It has drug out way to long.

agreed day has been really long and the deadline is long. but no i will not vote you your not a good candidate when we have other inactives we can pressure till the deadline. sorry. your gonna keep haveing to play

[/]

@ newguy, offtopic, but that's one thing i never understood since I joined CC, usually I'm pretty sure "noob" means something along the lines of "New + Boob" while "Newb" is short for "newbie", everyone on CC seems to use the former exclusively though and not necessarily offensively.

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=noob

Yeah sorry, it's just kind of bugged me for a few years now.

[thechuck51]

sorry chap about double post, didnt read chucks post prior to going ahead and posting mine.

I really do have to type faster and quit going over stuff while I am preparing to make a post.

Lets get this over with VOTE JGORDON1111

What are the steps to suicide here, One rampant fool is going to insist on my lynch will everyone please help him out.

Chuck chuck chuck you are truly an idiot but thank you for maintaining your vote and starting this BS again because of your undiminished stupidity.

You were the first person I fos'ed for a reason and was told it because your new,not scum.

who was it that backed him up on that lol

fastposted by NG,clever, /
I don't appreciate the personal attacks.

Its funny how people are criticized for being inactive. I spend a lot of time considering my vote, try to provide evidence to support my vote. The post my vote. A couple days later I spend time to catch up on all the posts since my last, reconsider my vote based on what I have read. Decide that my vote should stand and post again supporting my case. For this I am called names and my worthiness to continue to play the game is questioned.

If it is preferred that I spam the thread, picking up every misspelled word and poorly chosen phrase as a scum tell to create bandwagons that may be legitimate or may be clever ruses designed to create other bandwagons just to be considered active then that is what I will do.

[Some7hingCLEVER]

sorry chap about double post, didnt read chucks post prior to going ahead and posting mine.

I really do have to type faster and quit going over stuff while I am preparing to make a post.

Lets get this over with VOTE JGORDON1111

What are the steps to suicide here, One rampant fool is going to insist on my lynch will everyone please help him out.

Chuck chuck chuck you are truly an idiot but thank you for maintaining your vote and starting this BS again because of your undiminished stupidity.

You were the first person I fos'ed for a reason and was told it because your new,not scum.

who was it that backed him up on that lol

fastposted by NG,clever, /
I don't appreciate the personal attacks.

Its funny how people are criticized for being inactive. I spend a lot of time considering my vote, try to provide evidence to support my vote. The post my vote. A couple days later I spend time to catch up on all the posts since my last, reconsider my vote based on what I have read. Decide that my vote should stand and post again supporting my case. For this I am called names and my worthiness to continue to play the game is questioned.

If it is preferred that I spam the thread, picking up every misspelled word and poorly chosen phrase as a scum tell to create bandwagons that may be legitimate or may be clever ruses designed to create other bandwagons just to be considered active then that is what I will do.

i second this if there contributing maybe once a day then i dont mind thats good with me every other day is pushing it to me. but def. if you have good reasons for everything then its fine by me.

[jak111]

More WIFOM from Chuck, sure let's question the doc again. Bring it bud, once I die tonight it will only make people come back and check.

Yes I meant you instead of Chap, although both of you can go hand and hand

JG is responsible for actually making a conversation during this entire thing, pretty much all the info we got today was based around JG's case. As for your other part, at least jg is showing he's here and cares to show up. Lately I've been feeling like this game was consisted of 12 members with a few laying below the radar or something. His "shit" is activity Chuck, you can rant all you want about what type it is, but activity is the key into playing mafia. While a lot of jg's posts are useless, a lot of them are helpful and drew a lot of activity and opinions from people this game. So yes, I'd put him as a helpful person so far.

- we prevent the chance of our vig being busdriven while trying to NK him (if both roles are present in the game)
This, is bs. Why would we waste a vig kill on him? Also WIFOM for ASSUMING there's a mafia busdriver which really.. there aren't that many in the games (Someone said they seen a lot, well they never showed examples yet...).

So bring the FOS Chuck, I hope someone notes it perfectly that Chuck decides to WIFOM and then FOS the town doc. Are you getting mad? Am I getting under your skin for not agreeing that we should just get into the night? Is it wrong to think we should keep the survivor alive to increase our numbers? IF you answered yes to any of the following questions, FOS on Chuck.

Yes, you should consult your doctor Chuck, I think you're not taking the right dose of your meds lately. You know, taking too much or too little can result in side effects which I will not be responsible for.

Fastposted x4
Nothing to comment to the first 3, and nothing worth my time in the last one until he reads and replies to this.

Fastposted again,

[thechuck51]

More WIFOM from Chuck, sure let's question the doc again. Bring it bud, once I die tonight it will only make people come back and check.

Yes I meant you instead of Chap, although both of you can go hand and hand

JG is responsible for actually making a conversation during this entire thing, pretty much all the info we got today was based around JG's case. As for your other part, at least jg is showing he's here and cares to show up. Lately I've been feeling like this game was consisted of 12 members with a few laying below the radar or something. His "shit" is activity Chuck, you can rant all you want about what type it is, but activity is the key into playing mafia. While a lot of jg's posts are useless, a lot of them are helpful and drew a lot of activity and opinions from people this game. So yes, I'd put him as a helpful person so far.

Here is what I take from this (which is probably due to my inexperience) If i post just for the sake of posting its wrong. If I try to contribute something meaningful but its not up to others' standards I am wrong. If I change my vote and jump on bandwagons I am wrong. If I stick to my guns and maintain my vote I am wrong. I say with all sincerity that I am trying to be active and trying to contribute I'm just doing it the way I thought was most appropriate for me

- we prevent the chance of our vig being busdriven while trying to NK him (if both roles are present in the game)
This, is bs. Why would we waste a vig kill on him? Also WIFOM for ASSUMING there's a mafia busdriver which really.. there aren't that many in the games (Someone said they seen a lot, well they never showed examples yet...).

I only mention the busdirver/vig stuff because it was discussed a while back. Not because i necessarily think there is one. thats why i said "(if both roles are present in the game)"

So bring the FOS Chuck, I hope someone notes it perfectly that Chuck decides to WIFOM and then FOS the town doc. Are you getting mad? Am I getting under your skin for not agreeing that we should just get into the night? Is it wrong to think we should keep the survivor alive to increase our numbers? IF you answered yes to any of the following questions, FOS on Chuck.

No i'm not getting mad and you are not getting under my skin. You can think whatever you like but aren't I entitled to think differently?

Yes, you should consult your doctor Chuck, I think you're not taking the right dose of your meds lately. You know, taking too much or too little can result in side effects which I will not be responsible for.



Fastposted x4
Nothing to comment to the first 3, and nothing worth my time in the last one until he reads and replies to this.

Fastposted again,

[jgordon1111]

More WIFOM from Chuck, sure let's question the doc again. Bring it bud, once I die tonight it will only make people come back and check.

Yes I meant you instead of Chap, although both of you can go hand and hand

JG is responsible for actually making a conversation during this entire thing, pretty much all the info we got today was based around JG's case. As for your other part, at least jg is showing he's here and cares to show up. Lately I've been feeling like this game was consisted of 12 members with a few laying below the radar or something. His "shit" is activity Chuck, you can rant all you want about what type it is, but activity is the key into playing mafia. While a lot of jg's posts are useless, a lot of them are helpful and drew a lot of activity and opinions from people this game. So yes, I'd put him as a helpful person so far.

Here is what I take from this (which is probably due to my inexperience) If i post just for the sake of posting its wrong. If I try to contribute something meaningful but its not up to others' standards I am wrong. If I change my vote and jump on bandwagons I am wrong. If I stick to my guns and maintain my vote I am wrong. I say with all sincerity that I am trying to be active and trying to contribute I'm just doing it the way I thought was most appropriate for me

- we prevent the chance of our vig being busdriven while trying to NK him (if both roles are present in the game)
This, is bs. Why would we waste a vig kill on him? Also WIFOM for ASSUMING there's a mafia busdriver which really.. there aren't that many in the games (Someone said they seen a lot, well they never showed examples yet...).

[b]I only mention the busdirver/vig stuff because it was discussed a while back. Not because i necessarily think there is one. thats why i said "(if both roles are present in the game)"

So bring the FOS Chuck, I hope someone notes it perfectly that Chuck decides to WIFOM and then FOS the town doc. Are you getting mad? Am I getting under your skin for not agreeing that we should just get into the night? Is it wrong to think we should keep the survivor alive to increase our numbers? IF you answered yes to any of the following questions, FOS on Chuck.

No i'm not getting mad and you are not getting under my skin. You can think whatever you like but aren't I entitled to think differently?

Yes, you should consult your doctor Chuck, I think you're not taking the right dose of your meds lately. You know, taking too much or too little can result in side effects which I will not be responsible for.



Fastposted x4
Nothing to comment to the first 3, and nothing worth my time in the last one until he reads and replies to this.

Fastposted again,

Now your starting to get the Idea chuck,good luck with it. play the game, say what you mean, back it up. But if you try to beat something to death it will most likely come around on you. Be careful of everything you say here.

In a heartbeat your in the spotlight,not in a good way.

[/]

/, The only response I have to that post is that I even said that I was not making a case on pmc, and I said that I didnt see why I was scummier then saf. Therefore, I was not trying to point everyone in another direction, I was stating my opinion.

bah, whoops, I got distracted by the later half and forgot to follow up on the important bit

It doesn't sound like an opinion the way you phrase it, it sounds like you are bitter that they are not getting suspicion put on them, instead of actually attempting to pressure them yourself, which is something town may want to do.

I also see your blatant support of pmc and saf. This has been noted for when/if I am forced to claim.

Also, you are dismissing PMC because he admits to supporting bandwagonning? So does that mean he is excused this whole game so long as he follows the pack?

I am just asking you personally why he is getting a free card. How about I just say I support bandwagons and get away with it the rest of the game?

Oh also, Welcome to the Game gimli1990! I'm glad someone has the guts to read up on such a insanely fast game.

[thechuck51]

Now your starting to get the Idea chuck,good luck with it. play the game, say what you mean, back it up. But if you try to beat something to death it will most likely come around on you. Be careful of everything you say here.

In a heartbeat your in the spotlight,not in a good way.

My intention wasn't to beat anything to death. I hadn't posted anything in a couple of days and I wasn't to keen on the current conversation so I thought restating my opinion on you would be appropriate. guess I was wrong!

fastposted by /

[jak111]

Ah, but that's where you're wrong Chuck, jg and I are getting deep under your skin to the point where you wish to rush something that's been attempted 2-3 times already. I think you can't bare to see the day's go by and wish for the nights where you can kill of town, that's what I think here Chuck. Yes, everyone is free to state themselves and do what they want, which if you haven't noticed I've been stating my opinions and been picking things apart. With a few useless posts in there to keep it active or to reply to people (Mostly the 2nd).

As is being seen lately, / is picking apart NG. So I think Chuck, the activity of late has been to the benefit of town, whether you agree or not, the proof is in front of you, all you have to do is read it. As for my belief on you being scum, I'll be willing to put my money where my mouth is so to speak. Unvote (well not sure if I gotta unvote a no lynch, but okay XD) Vote Chuck for the reasons I've posted a bit back. He's too antsy for my taste I guess.

Fastposted by Chuck, if you wish to restate it, add some more information next time. Restating things for the sake of restating them to bring their case out of the dust is not helpful if the town has decided to move on to other things.