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Should the drinking age be lowered to 18?

 
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Postby Stopper on Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:05 am

flashleg8 wrote:5 years old?!!!
F*ck me, I've been drinking since I was 2! Guess I should have moved to Sierra Leone (where it was apparently legal according to the wikipedia link).


Don't worry, you may not have been breaking the law, anyway. According to this page:

According to the Children and Young Person's Act of 1933, children under 5 "may only be given alcohol on medical order".

Now I'm off to find out what medical conditions there are that require the prescription of alcohol, so that I can fake the symptoms, and get my beers at prescription price from Boots...
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Postby Stopper on Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:13 am

Iz Man wrote:Rankings in liters/yr of beer imbibed per capita.


But what is your source? Because the top 10 beer-drinking nations according to the WHO report are:

1. The Czech Republic - 9.43
2. Ireland - 9.24
3. Swaziland - 7.49
4. Germany - 7.26
5. Austria - 6.42
6. Luxembourg - 6.16
7. Uganda - 6.14
8. Denmark - 6.02
9. United Kingdom - 5.97
10. Belgium - 5.90

The numbers are per capita volumes of pure alcohol in litres per year, restricted only to beer.

The United States and Canada don't even make the top 20. Uncivilized countries like Swaziland drink more (or stronger) beer than you do. You people need to get a grip of yourselves.
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Postby Alexwales93 on Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:47 am

C'mon Britian! Do your bit for the country!
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Postby DAZMCFC on Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:37 am

i do my fair share of drinking, but not much beer. mainly rose wine and vodka, a few pints of strongbow goes down well though. :lol:
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Postby Huckleberryhound on Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:41 am

Here in the Uk and Ireland, the drinking age is already 18.
We groups of 13 year olds drinking on street corners, is this what you want for your country ?

I think if someone is in the army, they should be able to drink, otherwise....maybe yous should keep it as is. ( i am 33 right enough, so what the frick do i care :P)
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Postby Anarchist on Sun Apr 22, 2007 6:49 am

Huckleberryhound wrote:Here in the Uk and Ireland, the drinking age is already 18.
We groups of 13 year olds drinking on street corners, is this what you want for your country ?


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Postby Iz Man on Sun Apr 22, 2007 9:34 am

Stopper wrote:But what is your source?

The United States and Canada don't even make the top 20. Uncivilized countries like Swaziland drink more (or stronger) beer than you do. You people need to get a grip of yourselves.


I just google'd it and found answers.com.
Similiar numbers were found in Wikipedia as well.

I have no idea what you mean by your other comment.
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Postby RobinJ on Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:39 pm

Probably isn't a good idea but sure all us teenagers do it anyway. I have friends whose livers are probably fucked already, and I'm only 16.
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Postby Ruben Cassar on Sun Apr 22, 2007 12:46 pm

Where I live drinking age is 16 but driving age is 18. We have no draft thank God.
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Re: Lowering the drinking age

Postby Backglass on Sun Apr 22, 2007 1:23 pm

vtnarik wrote:If I can VOLUNTEER to die for my country, I should be able to drink


Agreed. IF you join the military, you should be able to drink at 18. ;)

No one is being forced to die for their country today, so equating the two makes no sense.
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Postby flashleg8 on Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:01 pm

Stopper wrote:
flashleg8 wrote:5 years old?!!!
F*ck me, I've been drinking since I was 2! Guess I should have moved to Sierra Leone (where it was apparently legal according to the wikipedia link).


Don't worry, you may not have been breaking the law, anyway. According to this page:

According to the Children and Young Person's Act of 1933, children under 5 "may only be given alcohol on medical order".

Now I'm off to find out what medical conditions there are that require the prescription of alcohol, so that I can fake the symptoms, and get my beers at prescription price from Boots...


It was Buckfast tonic wine, (though the label does say tonic implies no medicinal purpose!)
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Postby coconut4paws on Sun Apr 22, 2007 5:09 pm

Anarkistsdream wrote:16 to drive
18 to drink, vote, and be drafted
21 to smoke weed
25 to lower insurance


That is the way it should be....
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Re: Lowering the drinking age

Postby btownmeggy on Mon Apr 23, 2007 10:15 am

Backglass wrote:
vtnarik wrote:If I can VOLUNTEER to die for my country, I should be able to drink


Agreed. IF you join the military, you should be able to drink at 18. ;)

No one is being forced to die for their country today, so equating the two makes no sense.


And if the draft were instated, it would make sense?
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Re: Lowering the drinking age

Postby vtmarik on Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:06 am

Backglass wrote:
vtmarik wrote:If I can VOLUNTEER to die for my country, I should be able to drink


Agreed. IF you join the military, you should be able to drink at 18. ;)

No one is being forced to die for their country today, so equating the two makes no sense.


Ah, yes it does. Supposedly, when you turn 18, you're mature and sophisticated enough to know whether you want to sign up and die. So how is this maturity any less than the maturity to be able to drink a beer?

I'd think that the mental capacity for someone to risk their lives for freedom by joining a branch of our armed forces would equate to the same level of mental capacity that someone has at 21 to decide to drink alcohol.

At the risk of sounding like some rhetoric-junkie, i'll quote the slogan for Americans for a Society Free from Age Restrictions: "There is no magic age."
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Postby Psilocbin on Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:07 am

Dude, but, what the f*ck is there to look after 18? At least when it's 21 you can still feel young at 19.
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Postby vtmarik on Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:10 am

Psilocbin wrote:Dude, but, what the f*ck is there to look after 18? At least when it's 21 you can still feel young at 19.


What does that have to do with anything?
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Postby Psilocbin on Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:13 am

vtmarik wrote:
Psilocbin wrote:Dude, but, what the f*ck is there to look after 18? At least when it's 21 you can still feel young at 19.


What does that have to do with anything?


drinking ages, after 21 it's like yay, now what?
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Postby Iz Man on Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:14 am

Psilocbin wrote:
drinking ages, after 21 it's like yay, now what?


Well at 25 your car insurance rates will go down..... :P
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Postby Psilocbin on Mon Apr 23, 2007 11:15 am

Iz Man wrote:
Psilocbin wrote:
drinking ages, after 21 it's like yay, now what?


Well at 25 your car insurance rates will go down..... :P


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Re: Lowering the drinking age

Postby Backglass on Mon Apr 23, 2007 12:10 pm

vtmarik wrote:
Backglass wrote:
vtmarik wrote:If I can VOLUNTEER to die for my country, I should be able to drink


Agreed. IF you join the military, you should be able to drink at 18. ;)

No one is being forced to die for their country today, so equating the two makes no sense.


Ah, yes it does. Supposedly, when you turn 18, you're mature and sophisticated enough to know whether you want to sign up and die. So how is this maturity any less than the maturity to be able to drink a beer?

I'd think that the mental capacity for someone to risk their lives for freedom by joining a branch of our armed forces would equate to the same level of mental capacity that someone has at 21 to decide to drink alcohol.


I agree...like I said, if you are mature enough to sign up voluntarily and die for your country, you should be able to also buy/drink alcohol.
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 1:32 am

A short list of the ways you can royally screw over yourself and others before 21

(17-21) Join the military or get drafted: possibly find your corpse in some filthy gutter on the otherside of the globe.
(16) Driving: kill others and self in car wreck. Also insurance is the Devil :evil: !
(virtually any age) Gun Ownership and/or Hunting: kill others and/or self via accidental discharge or foolish use.
(18) Vote: elect the worse possible candidate, screw up the election by refusing to pick one of the stronger contenters (whoring after those 'third party' candidates), via referendum enact a bad law (like a 21-drinking limit), etc.

I like how it was all handled back in the '50s; at 18 you could smoke and drink all you wanted but at 21 you could vote. It makes sence, cause at about 20 a person gets his/her act together. At in some cases, that happens earlier in life. 18 is the right age for alcohol, driving, voting and elisting/drafting. Oh well, so laws are just dumb.
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Postby bigas on Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:35 am

A lot of people are saying that at 18 they aren't mature and responsable to drink, so 21 is ok, but to drive 16 is enough??
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Postby JCUGoose on Tue Apr 24, 2007 2:53 am

The draft age and the drinking age should be the same. Lowering the drinking age to 18, however, will most likely cause a lot of problems. Maybe the government should suck it up and raise the draft age to 21.

We should have no drinking age at all. Early exposure to alcohol will help curb binge drinking that is so common among the American youth. Of course, we cannot do this as the transition would be horrendous. Therefore, draft age to 21! Hooray!
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Postby Jamie on Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:28 am

21 is not some random number picked by law makers. 21 is the age the human brain finishes its growth cycle, and is done developing. Alcohol is unsafe to drink before this takes place, as it inhibits development of the brain, if the brain isn't already done doing so. The drinking age in the US will NEVER be lowered, unless new medical research proves a new theory, or the US congress disbands the FDA.
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Postby Jenos Ridan on Tue Apr 24, 2007 3:40 am

Jamie wrote:21 is not some random number picked by law makers. 21 is the age the human brain finishes its growth cycle, and is done developing. Alcohol is unsafe to drink before this takes place, as it inhibits development of the brain, if the brain isn't already done doing so. The drinking age in the US will NEVER be lowered, unless new medical research proves a new theory, or the US congress disbands the FDA.


If that is the case, then the Founding Fathers must have been way ahead of the curve by having the voting age set at 21 :roll: .
So, are you saying that Canada, the UK and other countries are retarded because their health agnecies don't require the same limits :? ?
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